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Darnit. need a passport to go to Canada.

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Visitors to Canada
Identification requirements for U. S. citizens and permanent residents
If you are a U.S. citizen, ensure you carry proof of citizenship such as a passport, birth certificate, a certificate of citizenship or naturalization, or a Certificate of Indian Status along with photo identification. If you are a U.S. permanent resident, ensure you carry proof of your status such as a U.S. Permanent Resident Card.

Whether you’re entering by air, land or water, we recommend you carry a valid passport for all travel abroad, including visits to Canada from the U.S. A passport may be required by your airline or alternative transportation authority, as it is the only universally-accepted identification document.

Citizens of the U.S. who are members of the NEXUS program may present their membership card to the CBSA as proof of identification and as a document that denotes citizenship, when arriving by air, land, or marine modes.

Canadian citizens who are members of the FAST program may use their cards as proof of identity when arriving by land and marine modes only.

Permanent residents of the U.S. who are members of the NEXUS or FAST programs must travel with a passport and proof of permanent residence, and may be asked to present these documents to the officer upon arrival at the border.

All visitors arriving from or transiting through the U.S. are encouraged to visit the U.S. Customs and Border Protection website for information concerning the U.S. Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, and the requirements to enter or return to the U.S.

http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/travel-voyage/td-dv-eng.html#_s1a

not sure about your ability to get back into the States

Starting January 1, 2008, the United States plans to begin implementing a requirement for passports, or some other secure document which shows citizenship, to enter the United States by land or water, or January 1, 2007 by boat or plane. For people driving across the border the US Government has now decided to create a less expensive PASS (People Access Security Service) Card. Canada is considering implementing a similar Citizenship card and integrating the card system with the US. This will affect visitors to the US and US residents re-entering the US. Although passports will not be required until the beginning of 2008, passports are actually the best form of identification for crossing the border.
United States passport applications are available at:

US Postal Service offices and website www.usps.com/passport/welcome.htm
US State Department website www.travel.state.gov/passport/get/get_840.html
 
If they don't find your ID acceptable you do have the option of fighting a moose, if you win, they let you in.

Easily done. The average ATOT'er looks like this (yes I know who is in the picture):

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And don't forget the average ATOT'er has millions to bankroll his trips around the world. So we don't need no stinking trip to see moose droppings in Canada.
 
Go to Canada, have a great time. When you are ready to come back, break the law, get deported, problem solved.
 
Just show up at the border holding a can of Labatt Blue and wearing a Maple Leafs jersey. They will let you in. :awe:
 
Never had Moosehead. My dad has though. I wonder if they got it at the liqueur store over here. It's called World Beverage and they carry all kinds of drunken stupor cocktails.
 
That's a really sad statistic. It does explain a lot about our national xenophobia though.

Not really. There is no need to go out of the US since we have a wide range of places to go.

In Europe you can travel to another country and be back in time for dinner. In 90% of the US you can't do that. Even then half is going to Mexico. Outside of tourist traps you really wouldn't want to go anyway.

So to go anywhere else is a major undertaking and a long flight.
 
New laws? What do you mean by new? As far as I can remember I've needed a passport to leave the country.

used to have an aunt and uncle that live in Canada and we went several times in the 60s and 70s on vacation, we never needed passports back then.


some of the best fishing I had was in Canada.
 
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Not really. There is no need to go out of the US since we have a wide range of places to go.

In Europe you can travel to another country and be back in time for dinner. In 90% of the US you can't do that. Even then half is going to Mexico. Outside of tourist traps you really wouldn't want to go anyway.

So to go anywhere else is a major undertaking and a long flight.

Half the fun of traveling is experiencing different ways of life and different cultures. Yeah, there's a lot of things to see in the US but it's still the US.

Cost barrier is definitely a legitimate issue, but like anything expensive it's a matter of priorities.

There also a lot more down south than just Mexico, places like Guatemala are relatively cheap to travel too.
 
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Half the fun of traveling, for me, is experiencing different ways of life and different cultures. Yeah, there's a lot of things to see in the US but it's still the US.

Cost barrier is definitely a legitimate issue, but like anything expensive it's a matter of priorities.

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Half the fun of traveling is experiencing different ways of life and different cultures. Yeah, there's a lot of things to see in the US but it's still the US.

Cost barrier is definitely a legitimate issue, but like anything expensive it's a matter of priorities.

There also a lot more down south than just Mexico, places like Guatemala are relatively cheap to travel too.

whaa?

I have been pretty much all over the US. Sure it's still the US. But if you aren't experiencing different ways of life and cultures you need to get off the beaten path.
 

around the US? pretty much. only area i haven't lived or visited is florida.

we moved a lot when i was a kid. IF we spent more then 9 months in a spot i would be surprised.

My dad would buy failing car dealerships and able to turn them around. then sell them and start over.


I think that's why i stayed in the same house for the last 12 years and same area the last 20.
 
When I went up to Canada back in 1974 we did not need a passport either way. Just a couple or questions at the border and I think that was on the way back into New York

hell, they stopped me and pulled my car over for no reason. assholes. 😡
 
Never had Moosehead. My dad has though. I wonder if they got it at the liqueur store over here. It's called World Beverage and they carry all kinds of drunken stupor cocktails.

It has a light taste with rose after taste. Smells a little skunky. Kinda similar to a Belgian beer. I like it, certainly worth a try.
 
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