Dark Knight, aspect ratio hell

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Tegeril

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
I think this would be quite annoying for someone like me with a masking system in place.

If I have it set up for 2.35:1 for the movie
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and then the aspect ratio changes, I'm going to be shooting image onto my masking system. This will not be a good thing, as the whole point of the material I used is that it's incredibly black and almost nothing shows up on it.

Example of what an image looks like projected onto some cloth:
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(There's a portion of the "wrong" side of the fabric on the upper part of the right and left sides that you can still see the image on)

Setups like that are the exception, not the rule.

This, and sorry, but if I had a projector setup and used masking for the edges just to make it look better, I'd be damn sure, if it couldn't be easily changed, to keep it at 1.78:1 permanently, as some 'black bars' on a projector isn't going to bother me since it'd be so large anyway.

But that's, as said, an exception to the norm anyhow.

My point I want to make:

all these complaints about the switching ratios are rather childish complaints.
Breaking the fourth wall? Really? As in, you are so immersed in the movie that you forget it is a movie being displayed on your tv? I mean, changing aspect ratios could be a problem, but one - going into this movie thinking it's not going to happen should prepare you for it, and all it's doing is at times filling in the black bars that display in the rest of the movie.

Yes you'll realize it happens, but how can that be a big deal? It's not like the dimensionality changes at all, and the scene where it changes from the imax scene right into the normal film, all right in the same scene, everything appears to be the same size on screen, minus top and bottom portions that are now black bars. Most of the scenes will be when it's night, and the top doesn't really appear to flash into picture all that much.

I find nothing wrong with it though. Like what happened in the theaters, and what happens on the DVD, there is loss of image data. I'm not sure if he filmed full imax frame or not, so there might be cut data anyhow, but it looked great on BD.

Oh, and anybody that claims to be surprised by it is retarded. It states right on the back of the case that aspect ratios change.
If it was changing aspect ratios and have imax film, or keep it all the same, either by cutting the imax frame (more?) or not having imax used at all. Personally both options are terrible.
imax is great and I want more companies to use them. But using imax film is a bitch and requires short film sequences.

 

[daniel1113]

Meh. I was a little hesitant about the multiple aspect ratios, but I barely noticed the shift while watching the movie. They tend to occur during dark scenes, so the transition is very natural.

 

[sportage]

Really a silly issue.
Friends viewing it on my 65" tv didnt even realize the change till I pointed it out.
Not THAT annoying.
How long until the DK is just another dvd sitting on ones dusty dvd shelf?
Besides, they already are planning a re release in imax only and non imax only.
Hey... the qwest for more $$$$$ :thumbsup:

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: sportage
Really a silly issue.
Friends viewing it on my 65" tv didnt even realize the change till I pointed it out.
Not THAT annoying.
How long until the DK is just another dvd sitting on ones dusty dvd shelf?
Besides, they already are planning a re release in imax only and non imax only.
Hey... the qwest for more $$$$$ :thumbsup:

imax only? as in, the way it is now?
They didn't film many scenes in imax, just a few the director really wanted to sell with an amazing image quality. There may have only been a few entire scenes, if that, that were shot in imax and weren't use in the film, though I doubt they used imax on any scenes they hadn't entirely planned on being in the final cut.
Though really, I'd have expected a single aspect ratio regular release, and a director's cut with the ratios intact, and with a branching film. i.e. no matter how you view it the aspect ratios will change, but one may still be the theatrical release, and the true director's cut would have a few scenes embedded that weren't there. Actually, surprised they didn't utilize branching for the current release. Have it viewable one way with a locked aspect ratio, and the other way with the imax scenes shown in full 16x9.

 

[sportage]

The issue shouldnt keep anyone from buying the dvd.
You wont go blind or crazy watching it.
Your tv wont catch fire.

 

[Koing]

And we have talk of people wanting to see 'exactly' what the director indeeded and then complain about it!

The director intended it to be like this.

Koing