Danes slaughter a giraffe for education

[AViking]

What does everyone think of this? Basically a zoo in Denmark opted to kill a 2 year old Giraffe with a bolt gun, lay it out in front of the public, cut it up into little pieces, and then feed it to lions and other animals at the zoo.

They made it an education spectacle and there are videos of children in the front row watching this happen.

The controversy about the whole thing is that other zoos were practically begging them to let them have the giraffe. They refused them. My thought is that there is surely some business practice here that I'm not aware of and it must have been more profitable for them to slaughter the animal and pull off this education display then give or sell it to another zoo.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26098935

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=giraffe slaughter copenhagen&sm=1

Video is them cutting the giraffe up so probably NSFW. It's not that bad though.

 

[soulcougher73]

I think a more educational thing to do if that was the angle they were going for would be to watch the lions hunt it naturally (if they even would at this point). I think they should have just sold a surplus giraffe.

 

[biostud]

People are ignorant to the fact it happens all the time in all zoo's and millions of animals are killed every day. I'll say keep up the good work at taking care if endangered species in the zoo's.

Here's the explanation to why the giraffe had to die.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ENnNNVOEDZ4&desktop_uri=/watch?v=ENnNNVOEDZ4

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Using the deluded atheist logic towards morality, as seen in the atheist mantras bashing God that are chanted repeatedly by atheists, such as Cerpin Taxt and ThinClient, this giraffe was murdered. All people involved are murdered and should be prosecuted for premeditated murder.tin


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[soulcougher73]

Using the deluded atheist logic towards morality, as seen in the atheist mantras bashing God that are chanted repeatedly by atheists, such as Cerpin Taxt and ThinClient, this giraffe was murdered. All people involved are murdered and should be prosecuted for premeditated murder.

Way to bring up an unrelated topic. This thread will now turn to shit.

 

[AViking]

People are ignorant to the fact it happens all the time in all zoo's and millions of animals are killed every day. I'll say keep up the good work at taking care if endangered species in the zoo's.

Here's the explanation to why the giraffe had to die.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ENnNNVOEDZ4&desktop_uri=/watch?v=ENnNNVOEDZ4

Yes and why would they not let another zoo take it?

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Way to bring up an unrelated topic. This thread will now turn to shit.

We are discussing the morality of this situation.

Is it moral for man to kill animals if man have a good reason to do so?

Most people would answer yes, it is moral because man is different from animals and he had a good reason to kill.

Using this example as a basis and using reductio ad absurdum, I made an argument which clearly demonstrate the ridiculous nature of the atheist mantra accusing God of murder.

I hope my explanation is able to help you understand how my previous post was both on topic and contain good content suitable for the discussion forum.

 

[AViking]

It's probably worth noting that giraffes are not endangered on any level. I've been to Africa and seen more than I can count. So what exactly are they protecting the gene pool from? It's not extinction.

I understand controlling populations. We kill, I think, hundreds of thousands of Moose every year in Sweden. However I don't think we would kill one if a wild animal park or zoo wanted one.

 

[AViking]

We are discussing the morality of this situation.

Get out of my thread. You are thread crapping and not contributing anything.

 

[biostud]

Yes and why would they not let another zoo take it?

Because the other zoo's have all the giraffes they need. As you said, a giraffe is not a particular endangered species, so when zoo's get too many they get slaughtered. Same happened in another zoo in 2011. I'm pretty sure that the biologists running the professional zoos know a bit more about animal care and breeding than the average Joe or journalist.
Also all European zoos work together in a breeding program, so I'm pretty sure that they would be aware if someone needed a giraffe.

 

[biostud]

It's probably worth noting that giraffes are not endangered on any level. I've been to Africa and seen more than I can count. So what exactly are they protecting the gene pool from? It's not extinction.

Inbreeding, since the zoo population of giraffes is relatively small, and they're not adding new genes from the outside.

 

[AViking]

Yeah controversy not found when you put it that way. There really isn't a reason for anyone to beg for a giraffe unless they can't import them. Australia for example cut off the export of birds so I think all australian birds for collections are from breeding stock.

 

[WilliamM2]

I can understand why they slaughtered the animal. I have no idea why they decided to make a public spectacle out of it. How could they not realize the controversy and negative publicity it would cause in the media?

 

[biostud]

I can understand why they slaughtered the animal. I have no idea why they decided to make a public spectacle out of it. How could they not realize the controversy and negative publicity it would cause in the media?

They've done it before with other animals. And most people are completely fine with it. Just stupid journalists and people who doesn't know that meat comes from slaughtered animals has caused this outrage.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I can understand why they slaughtered the animal. I have no idea why they decided to make a public spectacle out of it. How could they not realize the controversy and negative publicity it would cause in the media?

I think it was because they saw it as a learning oppurtunity and thought that public education is a big part of what zoos are supposed to do.

 

[DrPizza]

I can understand why they slaughtered the animal. I have no idea why they decided to make a public spectacle out of it. How could they not realize the controversy and negative publicity it would cause in the media?

The term "public spectacle" is one being put forth by the media. The media is making it such, not the zoo. It's little different from children dissecting a pig in an AP biology class. Simply looking at a plastic model falls far short of an actual dissection - organs can be cut open and examined, different types of cells can be studied under the microscope, etc. It seems to be that it must have been a slow news day & they were searching for something to carry on about. If you watch the video in post #3 in this thread, where the zoo director is interviewed, pay attention to the vocabulary the news reporter is using. They're charged words chosen to evoke a certain response from the public. "Dismembering," etc.

The children were NOT present when the giraffe was killed with the bolt. They didn't see an educational purpose to doing that. But, seeing the number of vertebra in the neck of a giraffe, seeing the heart of the giraffe. That has so much more educational value than simply reading two sentences in a whitewashed textbook.

edit: and the meat was fed to the lions. "Saving" the giraffe simply meant that another like-sized animal would have to be killed to feed the lions. It's not as if the zoo keepers can say, "hey lions, someone saved the giraffe's life, so you're going to have to eat salad for the next couple of days."

 

[smackababy]

^ Pretty much this. I don't understand the outrage. Well, I do, but that is mostly because the news caters to morons who get outraged over anything if you use the right words.

 

[shortylickens]

Are giraffes endangered?

 

[SMOGZINN]

SO, can we safely call this the Dane Giraffe Gaffe?

 

[AViking]

I did look it up and there are a few rare Giraffe species but I don't think this was one of them. The normal giraffe is super common. I saw a ton of them in Africa. Wikipedia just says that their territory has shrunk considerably. That I believe since there were almost no animals in the southern part of the continent unless you were in a park. I can see more wildlife in my backyard in CA than I can in many parts of Africa.

Either way I do agree now that it wasn't so much a business decision as just something that needed to be done and is done on a regular basis.

 

[biostud]

Copenhagen zoo will now be in the exclusive club of zoo's with giant Pandas.

http://cphpost.dk/news/copenhagen-zoo-to-borrow-two-pandas-from-china.9330.html

 

[JEDIYoda]

outrage not found!
If there is outrage it was perhaps made up!!

 

[smackababy]

Copenhagen zoo will now be in the exclusive club of zoo's with giant Pandas.

http://cphpost.dk/news/copenhagen-zoo-to-borrow-two-pandas-from-china.9330.html

I wonder if they made a written agreement not to kill any of them. =)

 

[PingviN]

Copenhagen zoo will now be in the exclusive club of zoo's with giant Pandas.

http://cphpost.dk/news/copenhagen-zoo-to-borrow-two-pandas-from-china.9330.html

Best of luck to Copenhagen Zoo

plx don't kill the pandas :'(

 

[AViking]

I lived in San Diego and the Pandas were awesome. I bought a yearly pass to the zoo. I also went and saw them in China. Grats Copenhagen!

PS. Don't kill any of them please.