Dan Snyder Dead (Heatley could be charged)...

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
here we go...probably two guys out screwing around and now the survivor gets reamed because he was the driver. These guys were sports players in a Ferrari, not church moms.

Chances are they were both fine with the speed they were going. Speed = accidents sometimes. Not like these guys aren't used to putting their a$$es on the line everytime they play.

80 in a 35 happens all the time, it's not smart but I really really doubt Dan Snyder cared they were speeding or felt threatened.

They were going at least 80 in a residential area. He deserves to have the book thrown at him

 

[AvesPKS]

Am I the only one who thought of the owner of the Redskins?

 

[axelfox]

was David Wesley ever charged?

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: alkemyst
here we go...probably two guys out screwing around and now the survivor gets reamed because he was the driver. These guys were sports players in a Ferrari, not church moms.

Chances are they were both fine with the speed they were going. Speed = accidents sometimes. Not like these guys aren't used to putting their a$$es on the line everytime they play.

80 in a 35 happens all the time, it's not smart but I really really doubt Dan Snyder cared they were speeding or felt threatened.

They were going at least 80 in a residential area. He deserves to have the book thrown at him

blah blah blah....I have no problem with him getting nailed to the wall for the speeding part....

however for all we know Dan was telling him to go faster and faster.

That is my problem with these kinds of things. I have been injured as a passenger in many things...it's the risk you sometimes take for the thrill. If I were to have been killed or comatose, I would NOT have wanted my family to go after the driver.

 

[waggy]

no wonder why professional sports players feel they can get away with anthing. we have people letting them!


80 in a 35 happens all the time? OH NO! thats fvucking stpuid. there is a reason the limit is 35. maybe because people live there? or the road is curvy? either one it dont matter. the fvucking speed limit is 35! sheesh!

i call that reckless driving. anytime you are going over TWICE the posted speed limit it should be reckless driving. If his friend dies because of it then i hope he serves some jail time. heck if did something so stupid i would be in jail.

 

[StageLeft]

You know, you have to wonder what the dead guy thought of all of this. If he was as jolly to be cruising at 80 as the driver, then the driver shouldn't be held accountable for the passenger's death simply because he was driving. They're really partners in crime in that situation.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
You know, you have to wonder what the dead guy thought of all of this. If he was as jolly to be cruising at 80 as the driver, then the driver shouldn't be held accountable for the passenger's death simply because he was driving. They're really partners in crime in that situation.

at least someone else sees what I am saying.

Yeah 80 in a 35 is a crime....do people do that everyday, yes. Is it smart, no......

He and his friend were both equally guilty of the crime and neither of murder. Had they hit and killed a third party, say some guy checking his mail, then I'd say both would be guilty of murder.

 

[rh71]

Forgiving parents...

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: 10/9/03

ELMIRA, Ontario -- A small town hero loses his life because he was a passenger in a speeding car driven by someone else. In many circumstances, the driver would be the target of blame. But don't look for rage here. Not in this small Canadian hamlet, not in the home of Dan Snyder's parents.

"We're going to do everything we can for this boy," Graham Snyder said of Dany Heatley, the Thrashers' injured star who faces a long physical and emotional recovery, and significant legal obstacles. "This has been a tragedy and we've lost our son. But to lose another person [by putting Heatley in jail] would just be senseless. That shouldn't happen. He's already going to have awful memories of this."

The news that Heatley will accompany Thrashers players to Elmira for Dan Snyder's funeral on Friday was welcomed by members of the Snyder family.

"We really wanted him to be here," Graham Snyder said. "It's important for him to see this and have closure and say his goodbyes. We're here for Dany Heatley and we're praying he can get through this. We want him to feel support from the community. We want to let him know he's forgiven."

The front page of the local newspaper, The Record, carried a story headlined "Elmira Forgives Heatley." This is an old Mennonite town. Forgiveness is commonplace. Whatever anger toward Heatley might be felt elsewhere, residents here express none.

Dave Officer, a teacher, counselor, hockey coach and Snyder family friend, said, "I'm not aware of any resentment. People here see this as a tragedy and an accident. We don't look down on people. . . . I just can't imagine the pain Dany Heatley is going through."

Graham Snyder recalled hearing about Heatley being "shackled to the hospital bed" when he was officially charged, commenting, "That's so not what we're about. It's such a different mentality."

Jake Snyder, Dan's brother, said, "Our thoughts are with Dany's family. We feel maybe a different pain than they do right now. But we feel for both the parents and their son. My brother talked about Dany constantly. Dany was so special to my brother. He'd want us to help him get through a difficult time."

Graham Snyder said he and his wife speak to Heatley's parents "at least twice a day. We've told them, 'We don't lay blame.' Dan wouldn't have been with him that night if they weren't friends and he didn't trust him. We'll be there for him."


"We've all made mistakes in our lives," said Graham Snyder, Dan's father. "We've all gotten into a car and gone over the speed limit or done things we should not have done. Maybe those people [who have criticized Heatley] have forgotten that."

 

[Rudee]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Skoorb
You know, you have to wonder what the dead guy thought of all of this. If he was as jolly to be cruising at 80 as the driver, then the driver shouldn't be held accountable for the passenger's death simply because he was driving. They're really partners in crime in that situation.

at least someone else sees what I am saying.

Yeah 80 in a 35 is a crime....do people do that everyday, yes. Is it smart, no......

He and his friend were both equally guilty of the crime and neither of murder. Had they hit and killed a third party, say some guy checking his mail, then I'd say both would be guilty of murder.

From a legal standpoint, it doesn't matter if the passenger approves or disapproves of the speed the vehiche is travelling. The driver is responsible to provide a reasonable level of safety for his passengers.