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Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: v1001
Could have been a child instead of your dog. File a report stat. Don't let it chew off some kids face next time when you full well could have prevented it.


..that's how juries see it and why pitbull owners are cash cows for dog bite litigators.

gimme a break pitbulls have no more aggression towards humans than any other dog, without being trained that way or raised incorrectly.
:laugh: Nice try.

Science called and said you're wrong.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: v1001
Could have been a child instead of your dog. File a report stat. Don't let it chew off some kids face next time when you full well could have prevented it.


..that's how juries see it and why pitbull owners are cash cows for dog bite litigators.

gimme a break pitbulls have no more aggression towards humans than any other dog, without being trained that way or raised incorrectly.
:laugh: Nice try.

Science called and said you're wrong.

Please show us some science. Oh wait, you're wrong.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: v1001
Could have been a child instead of your dog. File a report stat. Don't let it chew off some kids face next time when you full well could have prevented it.


..that's how juries see it and why pitbull owners are cash cows for dog bite litigators.

gimme a break pitbulls have no more aggression towards humans than any other dog, without being trained that way or raised incorrectly.
:laugh: Nice try.

Science called and said you're wrong.

What science are you talking about?? here is the ATTS Breed Statistics showing pits as one of the less human-aggressive breeds. We own a pit and she has not shown any human aggression at all, however she (and most pits) are dog-aggressive, but that's easily controlled by keeping her on a leash..
 
So much misinformation in here about Pits. Also, they arent going to take the dog away for biting another dog once. Calling animal control will just put the pit on the radar in case anything happens like that again.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: v1001
Could have been a child instead of your dog. File a report stat. Don't let it chew off some kids face next time when you full well could have prevented it.


..that's how juries see it and why pitbull owners are cash cows for dog bite litigators.

gimme a break pitbulls have no more aggression towards humans than any other dog, without being trained that way or raised incorrectly.
:laugh: Nice try.

Science called and said you're wrong.



Actually, no. Pits have a natural agression towards other dogs, and any strange human invading the home. You have to abuse them and teach them to attack humans randomly. Why do you think it went after the corgi, and not the OP? But we are waiting on this "science"....?
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: v1001
Could have been a child instead of your dog. File a report stat. Don't let it chew off some kids face next time when you full well could have prevented it.


..that's how juries see it and why pitbull owners are cash cows for dog bite litigators.

gimme a break pitbulls have no more aggression towards humans than any other dog, without being trained that way or raised incorrectly.
:laugh: Nice try.

Science called and said you're wrong.

Jesus H Christ are you stupid, Peyton. It's not "science", it's breeding. Pit Bulls are bred to be agressive towards other dogs. They are ALSO bred to not be aggressive towards humans, even when they're freaking out. They're trained specifically to not bite humans, because human vets/refs had to break them up sometimes during pit matches. Nice try though.

I'll preface what I'm about to say by saying that I LOVE dogs. I'm one of those "dogs are miniature people" kind of guys. But, some breeds are just inherently dangerous. I was a dog groomer for 7 years, and I got bitten exactly once. By what kind of dog? A Doberman.

Yes, with proper training and whatever they're much less likely to attack, but they're still bred to be vicious and mean. You have to expertly train that behavior out of them, and sometimes it can't be done even with the best training. And that's assuming there's any real training effort at all.

Some breeds should not be allowed for the public to own. Dobermans, rotties, and other bred human-aggressive breeds. You don't hear a story about some random Golden retriever tearing some little kid's face off.
 
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: v1001
Could have been a child instead of your dog. File a report stat. Don't let it chew off some kids face next time when you full well could have prevented it.


..that's how juries see it and why pitbull owners are cash cows for dog bite litigators.

gimme a break pitbulls have no more aggression towards humans than any other dog, without being trained that way or raised incorrectly.
:laugh: Nice try.

Science called and said you're wrong.

Jesus H Christ are you stupid, Peyton. It's not "science", it's breeding. Pit Bulls are bred to be agressive towards other dogs. They are ALSO bred to not be aggressive towards humans, even when they're freaking out. They're trained specifically to not bite humans, because human vets/refs had to break them up sometimes during pit matches. Nice try though.

I'll preface what I'm about to say by saying that I LOVE dogs. I'm one of those "dogs are miniature people" kind of guys. But, some breeds are just inherently dangerous. I was a dog groomer for 7 years, and I got bitten exactly once. By what kind of dog? A Doberman.

Yes, with proper training and whatever they're much less likely to attack, but they're still bred to be vicious and mean. You have to expertly train that behavior out of them, and sometimes it can't be done even with the best training. And that's assuming there's any real training effort at all.

Some breeds should not be allowed for the public to own. Dobermans, rotties, and other bred human-aggressive breeds. You don't hear a story about some random Golden retriever tearing some little kid's face off.


..plenty of local communities ban pitbull ownership because they are a hazard to the community. Homeowner Insurance Companies know full well the HUGE litigation hazard a pitbull is. Dog bite litigation has become part of many law firms baseline business and persue pitbull owners vigorously. If you own a pitbull you risk financial ruin.
 
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: v1001
Could have been a child instead of your dog. File a report stat. Don't let it chew off some kids face next time when you full well could have prevented it.


..that's how juries see it and why pitbull owners are cash cows for dog bite litigators.

gimme a break pitbulls have no more aggression towards humans than any other dog, without being trained that way or raised incorrectly.
:laugh: Nice try.

Science called and said you're wrong.

Jesus H Christ are you stupid, Peyton. It's not "science", it's breeding. Pit Bulls are bred to be agressive towards other dogs. They are ALSO bred to not be aggressive towards humans, even when they're freaking out. They're trained specifically to not bite humans, because human vets/refs had to break them up sometimes during pit matches. Nice try though.

I'll preface what I'm about to say by saying that I LOVE dogs. I'm one of those "dogs are miniature people" kind of guys. But, some breeds are just inherently dangerous. I was a dog groomer for 7 years, and I got bitten exactly once. By what kind of dog? A Doberman.

Yes, with proper training and whatever they're much less likely to attack, but they're still bred to be vicious and mean. You have to expertly train that behavior out of them, and sometimes it can't be done even with the best training. And that's assuming there's any real training effort at all.

Some breeds should not be allowed for the public to own. Dobermans, rotties, and other bred human-aggressive breeds. You don't hear a story about some random Golden retriever tearing some little kid's face off.


..plenty of local communities ban pitbull ownership because they are a hazard to the community. Homeowner Insurance Companies know full well the HUGE litigation hazard a pitbull is. Dog bite litigation has become part of many law firms baseline business and persue pitbull owners vigorously. If you own a pitbull you risk financial ruin.

That is simply because of the ignorant hysteria surrounding pit bulls. Pit Bulls have a dog fighting underground culture with them. This leads to a large amount of bad owners who train their dogs to be super aggressive. This in turn leads to out of control pit bulls. It doesn't have to do with the breed being bad. It has to do with the greater majority of bad owners.

I'm not argueing that there isn't a prejuice against pit bulls and that you run a risk by having one as you are a target of "law firms." But that doesn't make those law firms, laws, or people right.
 
damn, another pitbull that will put the fear into anyone that sees pitbulls.

I for one do not like pitbulls, but it sucks they have that shit of a rap behind their breed...

poor welsh too!
 
It sounds like both you and the neighbor is handling this as well as you both can at this point. Hopefully she'll take steps to prevent anything more. Here's to Wally!
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: v1001
Could have been a child instead of your dog. File a report stat. Don't let it chew off some kids face next time when you full well could have prevented it.


..that's how juries see it and why pitbull owners are cash cows for dog bite litigators.

gimme a break pitbulls have no more aggression towards humans than any other dog, without being trained that way or raised incorrectly.
:laugh: Nice try.

Science called and said you're wrong.


I had a pitbull when I was 11 and that dog was the nicest dog around the family. You could even put your hand near his food bowl and he'd just wait for you to remove it before eating again. Try that with some of the non aggressive types and you'll get bitten!

He was VERY protective of the family. We had 10 fenced acres in FL at the time, and if anything came onto our property, like a dog, wild pig or turkey........ it was dead.

The PitBull and German Shepard are the best Guard/Family dogs in my opinion. If you want "ACTUAL" protection and not just some YIP YIP Ankle Biter, get one of these dogs!





 
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: v1001
Could have been a child instead of your dog. File a report stat. Don't let it chew off some kids face next time when you full well could have prevented it.


..that's how juries see it and why pitbull owners are cash cows for dog bite litigators.

gimme a break pitbulls have no more aggression towards humans than any other dog, without being trained that way or raised incorrectly.
:laugh: Nice try.

Science called and said you're wrong.

Jesus H Christ are you stupid, Peyton. It's not "science", it's breeding. Pit Bulls are bred to be agressive towards other dogs. They are ALSO bred to not be aggressive towards humans, even when they're freaking out. They're trained specifically to not bite humans, because human vets/refs had to break them up sometimes during pit matches. Nice try though.

I'll preface what I'm about to say by saying that I LOVE dogs. I'm one of those "dogs are miniature people" kind of guys. But, some breeds are just inherently dangerous. I was a dog groomer for 7 years, and I got bitten exactly once. By what kind of dog? A Doberman.

Yes, with proper training and whatever they're much less likely to attack, but they're still bred to be vicious and mean. You have to expertly train that behavior out of them, and sometimes it can't be done even with the best training. And that's assuming there's any real training effort at all.

Some breeds should not be allowed for the public to own. Dobermans, rotties, and other bred human-aggressive breeds. You don't hear a story about some random Golden retriever tearing some little kid's face off.


..plenty of local communities ban pitbull ownership because they are a hazard to the community. Homeowner Insurance Companies know full well the HUGE litigation hazard a pitbull is. Dog bite litigation has become part of many law firms baseline business and persue pitbull owners vigorously. If you own a pitbull you risk financial ruin.

That is simply because of the ignorant hysteria surrounding pit bulls. Pit Bulls have a dog fighting underground culture with them. This leads to a large amount of bad owners who train their dogs to be super aggressive. This in turn leads to out of control pit bulls. It doesn't have to do with the breed being bad. It has to do with the greater majority of bad owners.

I'm not argueing that there isn't a prejuice against pit bulls and that you run a risk by having one as you are a target of "law firms." But that doesn't make those law firms, laws, or people right.


..has little to do with prejuice and lots to do with documented incidents and precesent setting litigation. The hysteria ensues when the pitbull owners are charged with full financial responsibility of an incident involving an attack and the jury awards punitive as well as financial loss judgements:


Pit bull bite suit nets $7.55 million award in Jackson County
Daily Record and the Kansas City Daily News-Press, Jun 12, 2008

A Jackson County judge awarded $7.25 million to a man who was viciously mauled by several pit bulls in 2006, finding the owners of the rental property where the dogs were kept were liable.

Associate Circuit Judge Vernon Scoville III also awarded $300,000 to the man's wife for loss of consortium at the conclusion of a short nonjury trial Tuesday at the courthouse in Independence.

Alan Hill was attacked by the dogs in May 2006 while he was mowing the grass on a piece of his property in Independence. The three pit bulls escaped through an open window at a nearby home rented by the dogs' owners, Paul Piper and Tammy Young.

..here's a typical advert by a legal firm..

..has been winning pet attack cases in Eastern Vermont and Western New Hampshire for years. There?s a good reason why other law firms refer dog bite and pet attack cases to us. They know that their legal team couldn?t recover the settlements and jury awards that xyz legal firm attorneys always secure for our clients.

If you or someone you love has been the victim of a dog bite or a dangerous pet attack, then you need a personal injury lawyer who is going to win. Our attorneys enjoy the challenges of planning and executing litigation strategies that mean generous compensation for you. We don?t back down. We take cases to trial and we win.

..having a pitbull is an unrealized risk too many find out about thru financial ruin.



 
My two dachshunds scared my friend's pitbull so bad it jumped in the pool to get away from them. Then they bit the other one on the leg and he yelped. No damage thankfully. The pits are only 8 months old though and my doxies are probably 5ish and I just got them and have not fully assessed their *ahem* social skills. Obedience classes start in 3 weeks. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: GoodRevrnd
My two dachshunds scared my friend's pitbull so bad it jumped in the pool to get away from them. Then they bit the other one on the leg and he yelped. No damage thankfully. The pits are only 8 months old though and my doxies are probably 5ish and I just got them and have not fully assessed their *ahem* social skills. Obedience classes start in 3 weeks. 🙂

Dachshunds are a lot more tenacious than they seem. They're friendly, but if they don't like you, you'll know it.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Well it is your fault you know, you are not supposed to have a dog where you live anyway.... :wink;

File report and send the bills to the dog owner(sue if not paid).

lol!!

i paid the security deposit assholes!

lol

lol, that's the FIRST thing I thought of when I saw this thread. Glad to see you paid it. Your poor puppy 🙁 Nice to see the other owner is footing the bills, though. Seems like it all worked out.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
I'm not mad. We live in an apartment complex. The dog is usually fairly calm, just fucking lost it today though.

all I want is medical bills paid.

yip thats what the all say when a pitbull goes nuts. "But fluffy was so sweet, he never did anything like this before" mean while some kids is getting his face sewn back on.

I hate pitbulls period. they are unstable and you NEVER know when or what will set one off until its too late.


<<had a rottweiler for 11 years. ADRK Rottweiler that i trained to a Schutzhund II (SchH 2) title. google it if dont know what that is.




 
Originally posted by: GoodRevrnd
My two dachshunds scared my friend's pitbull so bad it jumped in the pool to get away from them. Then they bit the other one on the leg and he yelped. No damage thankfully. The pits are only 8 months old though and my doxies are probably 5ish and I just got them and have not fully assessed their *ahem* social skills. Obedience classes start in 3 weeks. 🙂


..a friend has a dachshund/chihuahua mix. goofy fun dog.
 
Originally posted by: GoodRevrnd
My two dachshunds scared my friend's pitbull so bad it jumped in the pool to get away from them. Then they bit the other one on the leg and he yelped. No damage thankfully. The pits are only 8 months old though and my doxies are probably 5ish and I just got them and have not fully assessed their *ahem* social skills. Obedience classes start in 3 weeks. 🙂

dachshunds are biters so watch them. No not all of them but....... My neighbors have 3 of the bastards that they let run loose several times a day and the first thing they do when they get loose is charge my fence with my 3 MUCH larger dogs in it.
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Ns1
I'm not mad. We live in an apartment complex. The dog is usually fairly calm, just fucking lost it today though.

all I want is medical bills paid.

yip thats what the all say when a pitbull goes nuts. "But fluffy was so sweet, he never did anything like this before" mean while some kids is getting his face sewn back on.

I hate pitbulls period. they are unstable and you NEVER know when or what will set one off until its too late.


<<had a rottweiler for 11 years. ADRK Rottweiler that i trained to a Schutzhund II (SchH 2) title. google it if dont know what that is.

how coudl you hate something so cute 🙁

my sister has 2 pits, and a kid, she rides one of them like a pony, they dont care, one of them doesnt even bark at other dogs
 
Originally posted by: BUTCH1
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: v1001
Could have been a child instead of your dog. File a report stat. Don't let it chew off some kids face next time when you full well could have prevented it.


..that's how juries see it and why pitbull owners are cash cows for dog bite litigators.

gimme a break pitbulls have no more aggression towards humans than any other dog, without being trained that way or raised incorrectly.
:laugh: Nice try.

Science called and said you're wrong.

What science are you talking about?? here is the ATTS Breed Statistics showing pits as one of the less human-aggressive breeds. We own a pit and she has not shown any human aggression at all, however she (and most pits) are dog-aggressive, but that's easily controlled by keeping her on a leash..

self selection tests = scientific FAIL!
 
http://www.dogexpert.com/Dog%2...DogBiteStatistics.html
The breeds most often involved in fatal attacks are Rottweilers and Pit bulls.
In the United States, pit bulls make up one to three per cent of the overall dog population and cause more than 50 per cent of serious attacks.
From 1979 to 1998, at least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in bite related deaths. Pit Bulls and Rottweilers were involved in more than 50 percent of these incidences.
In a study reported by a retired professor from California State University at Chino, Robert Plum, it was found that one dog in 55 will bite someone seriously during the course of a year. With respect to breed differences in the tendency to inflict serious injury, Plumb estimates that when a pit bull bites a human, one in 16 (e.g. 1/16) will inflict serious injury; this contrasts with a ratio of 1/296 Dobermans, and 1/156 German shepherds.
 
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