Just upgrade a computer for someone. They got a yahama 16x10x40x IDE drive. We just burned a 80 Minute audio CD in ~5 minutes. WOW!!
Anyone else have one of these bad boys?
Anyone else have one of these bad boys?
DAMN!!! Yamaha 16x Burner is amazingly fast.
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What software did he get with it? I'm keen to get one of these, but have yet to come across comments by people that actually have one.
It comes with Adpatec easy cd creator 4, direct cd, photodelux, and some other apps. The person who I install it for is gone now and quite happy. My 8x feels sow again
Oh well.
Oh well.
Yep bacillus...the model is: Yamaha CRW2100SZ.
I had no idea either I was just poking around hypermicro.com and noticed it
Funny that it's cheaper than my Yamaha 4x4x16x SCSI was in June 99.
I had no idea either I was just poking around hypermicro.com and noticed it
Funny that it's cheaper than my Yamaha 4x4x16x SCSI was in June 99.
Ive been tempted for a while to buy a new Burner. Im still using an old Yamaha 4260tx 4X Burner. Cost me a fortune when i get it like 3 years ago but its been good to me.
Viper22
Viper22
Adul,
Is your 8x20 the Imation/Plex drive? Good like getting that to die.
I have that 8x20 Imation/Plextor and I also have myself a Yamaha 12x...my 12x burns in about 8 minutes. I can wait 3 minutes.
Is your 8x20 the Imation/Plex drive? Good like getting that to die.
I have that 8x20 Imation/Plextor and I also have myself a Yamaha 12x...my 12x burns in about 8 minutes. I can wait 3 minutes.
I had one it was fast, but noisy.
I upgraded the firmware and it went toast.
I bought the 12x10x32x TDK which is almost as fast and has burnproof along with nero software, which I like better than the Adaptec. seems every time I put Adaptec software on my computer, I need a reformat to get the crap off. It likes to take control of things.
The Yammy is about 50 seconds faster than the TDK on a 700 meg disk.
I beleive I can wait another minute to get a good burnproof disk.
Plextor and TDK are on the verge of releasing their 16x10x40x drives soon.
I upgraded the firmware and it went toast.
I bought the 12x10x32x TDK which is almost as fast and has burnproof along with nero software, which I like better than the Adaptec. seems every time I put Adaptec software on my computer, I need a reformat to get the crap off. It likes to take control of things.
The Yammy is about 50 seconds faster than the TDK on a 700 meg disk.
I beleive I can wait another minute to get a good burnproof disk.
Plextor and TDK are on the verge of releasing their 16x10x40x drives soon.
I went from 2x2x6 to 8x8x32 and I saw a huge performance difference, but upgrading to 12x or even 16x doesn't really seem worth it, until I can improve performance by 4, I'm not really interested because 10min for 700MB is not bad at all.
hmm, i labored long and hard over whether burn proof would be a big factor in the 12x cdr that i was going to buy. then i realized that it simply wouldnt matter for me, or most people, IMO. at 12x the CDRW drive is writing at 1800kb/sec, or 1.8 megs. most drives can send out data WAY faster than that. Seriously, 1.8 megs per second is nothing. i ended up buying the teac 12x10x32x and i burned 20 straight discs (yes, twenty, all audio CD's, and without any reboots). not a single error or coaster (i dont care whether you believe me or not). I suppose for a slow system this could be a problem, but seriously, if you need persformace now, then go get the yamaha, unless you have a sluggish system. it should work out fine. This is just my opinion, and if you disagree and want to respond, please dont start yelling and insulting my statements....thanks. The only negative thing that i have read so far about the yamaha is it is noisy when it spins up. Oh, BTW, im running a athlon (classic) with a IBM 75GXP 15gb drive
The SCSI version had been out a while now. Does any1 know if Plextor are bringing out a 16x10x40x b4 I invest. As true 16x has a little more of an attraction....
Zhitnik-
Just curious, where you doing anything else while burning those CDs ("multi-tasking", or was that all you had running? This is just my interpretation, but it seems to me the selling point of burn-proof is that you can not only burn at 12x without producing coasters, but that you can do it while still *using* your computer. I had a plextor 8x that I would produce coasters if I wasn't careful about what else I had running...I didn't have to totally walk away from the system, but it's nothing like the new 12x one I have...I can actually play Quake 3 while listening to winamp while leaving ICQ and IE open while burning an audio CD. I highly doubt I could do that without burnproof...so for me, that's the beauty of the technology.
I mean, hell, when you're talking one minute's difference between a 12 and 16x write, and let's assume you're leaving your system alone while burning, what's the point? Unless you sit there and watch it burn, you're probably going to go do something else, and by the time you get back it'll have been done for a couple minutes anyway. I'd rather have a slower drive with burnproof and be able to use my computer than to have a faster one without it...
Just curious, where you doing anything else while burning those CDs ("multi-tasking"
, or was that all you had running? This is just my interpretation, but it seems to me the selling point of burn-proof is that you can not only burn at 12x without producing coasters, but that you can do it while still *using* your computer. I had a plextor 8x that I would produce coasters if I wasn't careful about what else I had running...I didn't have to totally walk away from the system, but it's nothing like the new 12x one I have...I can actually play Quake 3 while listening to winamp while leaving ICQ and IE open while burning an audio CD. I highly doubt I could do that without burnproof...so for me, that's the beauty of the technology. I mean, hell, when you're talking one minute's difference between a 12 and 16x write, and let's assume you're leaving your system alone while burning, what's the point? Unless you sit there and watch it burn, you're probably going to go do something else, and by the time you get back it'll have been done for a couple minutes anyway. I'd rather have a slower drive with burnproof and be able to use my computer than to have a faster one without it...
yes, i was playing quake 1. but it turns out that teac made 2 models of their 12x burner, one with burnproof, and one without. the one with is CDW512EB, and without is CDW512E. I was not aware of this, and i just figured out that i have the EB, or the one with burn proof. so disregard everything that i said, my mistake burnproof probably attributed to keeping me from making coasters.
burnproof probably attributed to keeping me from making coasters.I just bought a Sony 12X8X32 and it kicks but i'm not sure if it's burn proof or not. Does anyone know? Thanks!
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I can give a small testimonial to the burn proof of the Iomega 12/10/32 drive (with Plextor firmware )....I copied (backup purposes only for 7 year old....scratch city) a musical CD for my daughter, and my 40X Toshiba drive would only do 6X () DAE at the start of the disk.....Nero would fill it's internal buffer, and the drive would then start burning. The buffer would slowly empty until there was no more...the Iomega LED would then turn solid green and the buffer would refill to 30% or so and then the drive would take off again. It would do this 3x per disk as the Toshiba (while being a very good CD reader) sucks on DAE!
The music sounds great on the reproduced copy! Now my daughter (7 years old) can't scratch the crap out of the original!
Burn Proof seems to work very well!
)....I copied (backup purposes only for 7 year old....scratch city) a musical CD for my daughter, and my 40X Toshiba drive would only do 6X () DAE at the start of the disk.....Nero would fill it's internal buffer, and the drive would then start burning. The buffer would slowly empty until there was no more...the Iomega LED would then turn solid green and the buffer would refill to 30% or so and then the drive would take off again. It would do this 3x per disk as the Toshiba (while being a very good CD reader) sucks on DAE!The music sounds great on the reproduced copy! Now my daughter (7 years old) can't scratch the crap out of the original!
Burn Proof seems to work very well!
actually I don't think Yamaha sells an IDE 16x burner..
that onboard 8 mb buffer sure helps, though burnproof would be nice.
with SCSI, you normally don't have to worry about Buffer Underruns if you aren't using the source drive (the beauty of having next to no CPU utilization, it can run alot more autonomously).
Yamaha and Plextor are seemingly the two top CDRW drive makers, with Ricoh and the rest falling 3rd and worse IMHO.
I really need to get a new CDRW, mine doesn't do CDRW's right (I think it's somewhat defective, and I can't get a replacement).
that onboard 8 mb buffer sure helps, though burnproof would be nice.
with SCSI, you normally don't have to worry about Buffer Underruns if you aren't using the source drive (the beauty of having next to no CPU utilization, it can run alot more autonomously).
Yamaha and Plextor are seemingly the two top CDRW drive makers, with Ricoh and the rest falling 3rd and worse IMHO.
I really need to get a new CDRW, mine doesn't do CDRW's right (I think it's somewhat defective, and I can't get a replacement).
Soccerman:
AFAIK, they came out with the 16x IDE version first:
http://www.us.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10264370&loc=101
That's a store selling the IDE version. The SCSI ones are the ones just entering the market, I think. Many manufacturers are releasing IDE versions of their products before their SCSI counterparts.
AFAIK, they came out with the 16x IDE version first:
http://www.us.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10264370&loc=101
That's a store selling the IDE version. The SCSI ones are the ones just entering the market, I think. Many manufacturers are releasing IDE versions of their products before their SCSI counterparts.
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