Damn Michael Jackson was good!

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Rubycon

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Aug 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: Locut0s
I've never been a big pop,rock, or r&b music fan, never been a fan of a lot of music really but a post last night got me watching some of MJs old videos and performances. He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!! Too bad he threw all that talent down the drain. I do think he is guilty of being a child molester which can't be forgiven but man was he good in his day! Too bad he turned into a freak show.

Thriller Video
Rock with You Live
Bad
Smooth Criminal
Beat it
Billy Jean

Yes and best of all they had really talented people mixing and producing the music. Unlike the castrated shit that is marketed today.
 
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Michael Jackson pretty much defines 'immensely talented artist goes apeshit and turns into a reclusive freakshow for the world to laugh at.' And then, there is the whole pedophilia mess. :(

MJ vs Snoop Dog/Nelly/Christina Aguilera/BRITNEY!!!...who cares!

Aguilera is a talented singer with mediocre songs and a very limited fanbase. Britney shouldn't even be on this list because people stop listening to her music the second it goes off MTV. People still listen to their Jackson vinyls - that's the difference. I don't know mucho about Snoop Dogg/Nelly but c'mon, they shouldn't be compared to MJ. Jackson's music is still enjoyable when you give it a listen every once in a while. Most importantly, he had a unique, signature style. The problem with modern pop stars is that the music sounds like it was picked randomly from the songwriter's archives - the average Britney Spears song could have very well be sung by Aguilera/Moore/whoever - but a Jackson song was distinctly his.

There's a strange thing about the two big pop mega-stars of 80s - Madonna went from being a nut to having a normal life (or something like it). Michael went from being a cute little kid and a decent young man to one of the biggest jokes in the entertainment world. Odd how that played out.
 

MrChad

Lifer
Aug 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: Locut0s
I've never been a big pop,rock, or r&b music fan, never been a fan of a lot of music really but a post last night got me watching some of MJs old videos and performances. He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!! Too bad he threw all that talent down the drain. I do think he is guilty of being a child molester which can't be forgiven but man was he good in his day! Too bad he turned into a freak show.

Thriller Video
Rock with You Live
Bad
Smooth Criminal
Beat it
Billy Jean

Yes and best of all they had really talented people mixing and producing the music. Unlike the castrated shit that is marketed today.

Both the Thriller and Bad "Special Edition" remastered CDs sound incredible.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

Well yeah of course I wasn't comparing him to anyone else and when looking at the "compendium of music" as you put it just about all music nowadays is a 'fly on the wall' when compared to the likes of Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and other true gods of music. But he's hardly just another face in the crowd so long as you are dealing with pop music from the past 3 or 4 decades.
You'e mixing your metafores there. Bach, Mozart, Beethoven were composers, not particularly noted for their performance.

MJ vs Yasha Heifetz/Vladamier Horowitz/Itzhak Perlman..whom can stir the heart more? ...fly speck

MJ vs Rolling Stones/Sx Pistols/Eric Clapton .whom can stir the heart more? ...fly speck

MJ vs Snoop Dog/Nelly/Christina Aguilera/BRITNEY!!!...who cares!

No flamming now.............

And I do enjoy MS's performances, it's just that he ain't that good. Hell, The Temptations, Drifters, Coasters, Tina Turner, The Four Tops, even squinty eyed BB King are, at least, as much fun to watch. Give any one of them $5M and John Landis and that would be spectaular too.

any flaming that you receive is well deserved.

Eric Clapton is garbage, btw.
 

Miramonti

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Aug 26, 2000
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He's one of the best music interpreters/singers/performers, ever, and maybe even the most talented child singers ever known. Unfortunately he's gone from a freak of nature as a kid to a different kind of freak of nature as an adult.
 

hanoverphist

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Dec 7, 2006
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Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

He was the biggest musical name of the 80's. Hardly a flyspeck. I bet more people worldwide know his music than Beethoven.
No kidding. They didn't call him the king of pop for nothing. It was well deserved. The guy was an awesome talent, but unfortunately what drove him to refine his talent so well also made him a nut job.

he coined that nickname. there was no "they". he was the self appointed "king"
 

bigrash

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Feb 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

He was the biggest musical name of the 80's. Hardly a flyspeck. I bet more people worldwide know his music than Beethoven.
No kidding. They didn't call him the king of pop for nothing. It was well deserved. The guy was an awesome talent, but unfortunately what drove him to refine his talent so well also made him a nut job.

he coined that nickname. there was no "they". he was the self appointed "king"

might have been self-appointed, but I didn't hear many people arguing with that. And off the top of my head, I can't think of any other artist who could have been the king of pop.
 

Howard

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Oct 14, 1999
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Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

He was the biggest musical name of the 80's. Hardly a flyspeck. I bet more people worldwide know his music than Beethoven.
No kidding. They didn't call him the king of pop for nothing. It was well deserved. The guy was an awesome talent, but unfortunately what drove him to refine his talent so well also made him a nut job.

he coined that nickname. there was no "they". he was the self appointed "king"
I don't think that's true.
 

TXHokie

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Nov 16, 1999
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Originally posted by: Printer Bandit
first moonwalk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NA-IgKKvY

I remember seeing that performance on TV live back then and we were like "Whoa, wtf was that move we just saw?". Had the VCR on at the time and played it over and over. Next days/weeks at school, the kids were doing moonwalk everywhere.
*sigh* that music is now oldies and I'm oldie as well.
 

TheShiz

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Oct 9, 1999
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wow, there was a youtube comment on one of those videos that really makes sense. now i finally understand MJ:


"STFU Stop fucking Michael Jackson, he is not white or black he's god and needs to eat children to be alive, is the price we got to pay to listen and watch this things."