Damn Michael Jackson was good!

Locut0s

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I've never been a big pop,rock, or r&b music fan, never been a fan of a lot of music really but a post last night got me watching some of MJs old videos and performances. He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!! Too bad he threw all that talent down the drain. I do think he is guilty of being a child molester which can't be forgiven but man was he good in his day! Too bad he turned into a freak show.

Thriller Video
Rock with You Live
Bad
Smooth Criminal
Beat it
Billy Jean
 

coldmeat

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I'm more of a fan of little Michael Jackson of the Jackson 5 than the older MJ.

edit: I just read on Wikipedia that they're planning a reunion tour in 2008. Apparently just announced 2 days ago.
 

Billb2

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Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

 

Locut0s

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Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

Well yeah of course I wasn't comparing him to anyone else and when looking at the "compendium of music" as you put it just about all music nowadays is a 'fly on the wall' when compared to the likes of Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and other true gods of music. But he's hardly just another face in the crowd so long as you are dealing with pop music from the past 3 or 4 decades.
 

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Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

He was the biggest musical name of the 80's. Hardly a flyspeck. I bet more people worldwide know his music than Beethoven.
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

He was the biggest musical name of the 80's. Hardly a flyspeck. I bet more people worldwide know his music than Beethoven.
No kidding. They didn't call him the king of pop for nothing. It was well deserved. The guy was an awesome talent, but unfortunately what drove him to refine his talent so well also made him a nut job.

 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

He was the biggest musical name of the 80's. Hardly a flyspeck. I bet more people worldwide know his music than Beethoven.
No kidding. They didn't call him the king of pop for nothing. It was well deserved. The guy was an awesome talent, but unfortunately what drove him to refine his talent so well also made him a nut job.

Actually I think it was more a combination of too many yes men and too much money. He got used to waving his hand and any whim being fulfilled---that'll screw anyone up.
 

pyonir

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MJ was amazing...Thriller is still one of the best videos ever. If not the best. It IS too bad how he's turned out. His influence on dancing and pop music is something you can't ignore.

I never saw MJ live...but i did see Prince...and no matter what anyone says Prince puts on one HELL of a show. The guy is a great artist.
 

pyonir

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Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Originally posted by: trmiv
No post about Michael is complete without his legendary Motown 25 performance of Billie Jean

That was a classic. You should check out his 2001 performance, which I think is actually better since he does a wider array of dance moves. And only MJ could pull off an intro this cool. :thumbsup:

Is that Macauly Caulkin at about the 5:25 mark? in the crowd? lol...


Great performance though...
 

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Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Originally posted by: trmiv
No post about Michael is complete without his legendary Motown 25 performance of Billie Jean

That was a classic. You should check out his 2001 performance, which I think is actually better since he does a wider array of dance moves. And only MJ could pull off an intro this cool. :thumbsup:

Is that Macauly Caulkin at about the 5:25 mark? in the crowd? lol...


Great performance though...

Yeah, that was him. :) I thought I saw Kim Kardashian at the 4:30 mark too, but I don't think she was famous enough then for them to put the camera on her. Maybe just a girl that looks a lot like her.
 

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Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

He was the biggest musical name of the 80's. Hardly a flyspeck. I bet more people worldwide know his music than Beethoven.
That's a fact. It's also a prolem too!

 

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Originally posted by: Locut0s
Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

Well yeah of course I wasn't comparing him to anyone else and when looking at the "compendium of music" as you put it just about all music nowadays is a 'fly on the wall' when compared to the likes of Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and other true gods of music. But he's hardly just another face in the crowd so long as you are dealing with pop music from the past 3 or 4 decades.
You'e mixing your metafores there. Bach, Mozart, Beethoven were composers, not particularly noted for their performance.

MJ vs Yasha Heifetz/Vladamier Horowitz/Itzhak Perlman..whom can stir the heart more? ...fly speck

MJ vs Rolling Stones/Sx Pistols/Eric Clapton .whom can stir the heart more? ...fly speck

MJ vs Snoop Dog/Nelly/Christina Aguilera/BRITNEY!!!...who cares!

No flamming now.............

And I do enjoy MS's performances, it's just that he ain't that good. Hell, The Temptations, Drifters, Coasters, Tina Turner, The Four Tops, even squinty eyed BB King are, at least, as much fun to watch. Give any one of them $5M and John Landis and that would be spectaular too.
 

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Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

Well yeah of course I wasn't comparing him to anyone else and when looking at the "compendium of music" as you put it just about all music nowadays is a 'fly on the wall' when compared to the likes of Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and other true gods of music. But he's hardly just another face in the crowd so long as you are dealing with pop music from the past 3 or 4 decades.
You'e mixing your metafores there. Bach, Mozart, Beethoven were composers, not particularly noted for their performance.

MJ vs Yasha Heifetz/Vladamier Horowitz/Itzhak Perlman..whom can stir the heart more? ...fly speck

MJ vs Rolling Stones/Sx Pistols/Eric Clapton .whom can stir the heart more? ...fly speck

MJ vs Snoop Dog/Nelly/Christina Aguilera/BRITNEY!!!...who cares!

No flamming now.............

And I do enjoy MS's performances, it's just that he ain't that good. Hell, The Temptations, Drifters, Coasters, Tina Turner, The Four Tops, even squinty eyed BB King are, at least, as much fun to watch. Give any one of them $5M and John Landis and that would be spectaular too.

actually, bach, mozart and beethoven also were great performers.
 

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Originally posted by: Billb2
And I do enjoy MS's performances, it's just that he ain't that good. Hell, The Temptations, Drifters, Coasters, Tina Turner, The Four Tops, even squinty eyed BB King are, at least, as much fun to watch. Give any one of them $5M and John Landis and that would be spectacular too.

Why give any of them anything? MJ can sell out a venue larger than most of those guys combined. While I agree that there are many better groups/musicians in terms of musical talent (Clapton, Beatles, Stones, etc.) I don't see how you can argue that MJ is anything but a legend in his own right.
 
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Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: Locut0s
He really was a genius, fantastic singer, dancer and performer!!
No, a fly speck on the wall in the compendium of music.

Well yeah of course I wasn't comparing him to anyone else and when looking at the "compendium of music" as you put it just about all music nowadays is a 'fly on the wall' when compared to the likes of Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and other true gods of music. But he's hardly just another face in the crowd so long as you are dealing with pop music from the past 3 or 4 decades.
You'e mixing your metafores there. Bach, Mozart, Beethoven were composers, not particularly noted for their performance.

MJ vs Yasha Heifetz/Vladamier Horowitz/Itzhak Perlman..whom can stir the heart more? ...fly speck

MJ vs Rolling Stones/Sx Pistols/Eric Clapton .whom can stir the heart more? ...fly speck

MJ vs Snoop Dog/Nelly/Christina Aguilera/BRITNEY!!!...who cares!

No flamming now.............

And I do enjoy MS's performances, it's just that he ain't that good. Hell, The Temptations, Drifters, Coasters, Tina Turner, The Four Tops, even squinty eyed BB King are, at least, as much fun to watch. Give any one of them $5M and John Landis and that would be spectaular too.

If he wasn't so good, then why are you comparing him to so many across different genre's?
Michael Jackson transcended barriers and genre's. He was the 80's. I doubt there is any other artist alive that would draw such a diverse crowd as Michael Jackson did. Everyone liked him before the pedo stuff was made public.