Damn it, I think I screwed up when puting my new heatsink on.

[emblem]

When I first got my stock heatsink I'm pretty sure I smudged somepart of the heatsink so I was getting like 50C on idle. Well I got a Arctiv Freezer pro 7 and just put it in. I'm getting 45C on idle. When putting it on, I saw I had it on the wrong way, so I took it off and put it the right way. Did doing that really make a difference?


I guess I"m going to have to buy some paste and re do it.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Yes, you're going to have to reapply some MX-1 or MX-2 or whatever goop it is they're using on those things nowadays. You most likely introduced some unwanted airbubbles into the TIM when reinstalling your Freezer Pro 7. What CPU are you cooling?

If I were you, I'd go with some MX-2, Tuniq TX-2, Shin-Etsu X23, or IC Diamond 7.

 

[emblem]

E2200 is my cpu

http://www.radioshack.com/prod...ctic&parentPage=search

Found it. It says it's in stock at one close to me also. I might go there on Sunday and check it out probably.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Honestly I would not recommend Arctic Silver 5(AS5), though it won't kill you to use it. The HSF you purchased uses either MX-1 or MX-2 (pre-applied) which are probably the products you should be using unless you want a better TIM like TX-2, X23, or IC Diamond 7.

AS5 just isn't as good as some of the other products on the market. Radio Shack will probably overcharge for it, too.

 

[emblem]

I thought Arctic Silver 5 was what most people recommended? Also, the one at radio shack is 9.99
Most of the pastes on newegg is around 5 bucks + 5 shipping. About the same price, but I don't have to wait for it to ship.

 

[Rhonda the Sly]

It's what most people recommend but isn't as good as some other goops. You can knock of one or two degrees using other stuff. By no stretch of the imagination is AS5 bad, it's just not the best. If you prefer to buy it locally to save time and money you won't be disappointed. I even buy AS5 from a small shop about ten minutes from where I live to save $0.60 and shipping time.

 

[coolpurplefan]

I just use Arctic Silver Ceramique. Most people won't choose it but it won't superglue your heatsink to your CPU like AS5 can.

You can clean with rubbing alcohol and Q-tips.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: emblem
I thought Arctic Silver 5 was what most people recommended? Also, the one at radio shack is 9.99
Most of the pastes on newegg is around 5 bucks + 5 shipping. About the same price, but I don't have to wait for it to ship.

For whatever its worth, my experience with AS5, AS Ceramique, TX-1, and TX-2 is that they all perform with 2-3C of each other.

The bigger delta in performance is end-user controlled and that is whether you put it all together correctly. Use too much or too little and it won't matter which uber product you bought.

I think you are making a wise choice for yourself, you clearly value convenience and your time more than saving a few bucks or seeing a 2C lower CPU temp. In this case purchasing AS5 from Radioshack will bring you 100% satisfaction and you should run with it. I would too were I under similiar circumstance.

Others value seeing that 2C temp drop more than they value shipping costs and/or shipping time, and they will provide their opinions biased as such. I too have been under those circumstances as well.

There is no right or wrong answer, the hard part for you is deciding what question you are really trying to have answered and then determine which response post best interpretted your question as you intended.

 

[DSF]

Whatever you do, clean the CPU and heatsink well.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: DSF
Whatever you do, clean the CPU and heatsink well.

What he said. Clean both surfaces thoroughly with the solvent of your choice. I like acetone with an alcohol rinse, others recommend isopropyl alcohol alone. If you can find it, Arctic Silver markets an ArctiClean two-part wash and surface purifier that some have given very high marks. Coffee filters are a cheap and widely available lint-free wipe for your final cleaning.

 

[DrMrLordX]

If shipping time is an issue than AS5 will be fine, just be aware that there are better products out there.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

Originally posted by: DSF
Whatever you do, clean the CPU and heatsink well.

What he said. Clean both surfaces thoroughly with the solvent of your choice. I like acetone with an alcohol rinse, others recommend isopropyl alcohol alone. If you can find it, Arctic Silver markets an ArctiClean two-part wash and surface purifier that some have given very high marks. Coffee filters are a cheap and widely available lint-free wipe for your final cleaning.

Arctic Silver ACN-60ML Thermal Material Remover & Surface Purifier

Best $5.99 + S/H I ever spent. I use to remove thermal paste with 91% isopropyl but then for kicks I threw in the artic clean on a newegg order with a bunch of other stuff (the S/H fee listed is only if you buy it alone as the only item in the order).

When I tried it, wow wee! The mojo in the "1" container smells like "orange clean" from the TV commercials and it does the job. Could not believe how much extra crap it was removing from my IHS and HSF surfaces.

 

[emblem]

I used q tips tip with alcohol to get the paste off and clean it. Then used coffee filter a little bit. The coffee filter didn't seem like it did much.

My friend actually just told me that he has AS5 and he can let me borrow it once I see him at school which won't be till wensday. So I'll actually just use my friends. Saves me $10.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: emblem
I used q tips tip with alcohol to get the paste off and clean it. Then used coffee filter a little bit. The coffee filter didn't seem like it did much.

The coffee filter removes any random lint left by the swabs. Not always visible.

Coffee filters are also useful when "tinting" the HSF base. I don't think Arctic Silver still recommends this, but a lot of us got in the habit. After cleaning, take a small dab of your Thermal Interface Material and rub it into base. Use a plastic bag or finger cot (kind of like a tiny condom for your finger) so that you don't contaminate your TIM with skin cells or oil. Use the coffee filter to remove any excess TIM. You will see a discolored area where you have filled in the microscopic pores in the metal of the HSF base. Then apply your TIM to the CPU's heatspreader and mount the HSF.

 

[hclarkjr]

i have used arctic silver 5 since it come out. i swear by it, look at my temps with a mild 500 MHZ overclock on my E600

Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type ITE IT8718F (ISA 290h)
GPU Sensor Type National LM64, Volterra VT1165 (ATI-I2C 18h, 70h)
Motherboard Name Gigabyte G33 / P31 / P35 / X38 Series
Chassis Intrusion Detected Yes

Temperatures
Motherboard 34 °C (93 °F)
CPU 19 °C (66 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 27 °C (81 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 25 °C (77 °F)
GPU 45 °C (113 °F)
GPU Ambient 39 °C (102 °F)
GPU VRM 42 °C (108 °F)
WDC WD5000KS-00MNB0 27 °C (81 °F)
WDC WD5000YS-01MPB1 28 °C (82 °F)

Cooling Fans
CPU 1705 RPM
Fan #4 1369 RPM
GPU 1991 RPM (31%)

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.20 V
+3.3 V 3.33 V
+12 V 12.19 V
+5 V Standby 5.24 V
VBAT Battery 3.23 V
DIMM 1.92 V
GPU VRM 1.00 V

Current Values
GPU VRM 25.74 A

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
Yes, you're going to have to reapply some MX-1 or MX-2 or whatever goop it is they're using on those things nowadays. You most likely introduced some unwanted airbubbles into the TIM when reinstalling your Freezer Pro 7. What CPU are you cooling?

If I were you, I'd go with some MX-2, Tuniq TX-2, Shin-Etsu X23, or IC Diamond 7.

The Thermalpaste that came with the Freezer Pro7 is a very good thermal paste.

You will see no significant reduction in temps by using a different thermalpaste!!

 

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

The Thermalpaste that came with the Freezer Pro7 is a very good thermal paste.

You will see no significant reduction in temps by using a different thermalpaste!!

. . . which is why I recommended he get MX-1 or MX-2. I forget which one they're using on Freezer 7 Pros now, but it's probably MX-2. In any case, that's what ships pre-applied to the HSF, not AS5.

 

[emblem]

*sigh* Ok I put in my arctic freezer. I put in the freezer good. No problems. Well everything turns on and guess what my temps are. The same as before when I had my freezer in. 45C on idle. WTF is all this. I'm pretty sure i put the paste on right.

I put a little bit, then used a old credit card I had to spread it around. It was spread. I put the heatsink, goes on. Clips tightly in.


The same as before

 

[Old Hippie]

Are you using CoreTemp 96.1?

 

[emblem]

yep. using that.

 

[emblem]

I just tried doing it again and only putting a little dot on the cpu then putting the cooler on. I'm getting the same temps. I have no idea what's wrong.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Then my guess is you've either got a case airflow issue and/or a warped IHS on your CPU.

The solution to the former is better airflow (faster fans, less cable clutter, better case). The solution to the latter is to either complain to Intel or whoever sold you your CPU or to break out the sandpaper and start lapping. Or just put up with the temps you've got.

Of course you may have faulty temp sensors on your mobo, but I don't think that would mess up Coretemp.

 

[emblem]

I have a CM 690 case. The fan that's in front is kinda blocked by the PSU's cables but I don't really see a way to clean that up. When I get a camera to use I'll take a picture. Can someone with a CM690 case show me how their inside looks like? I can't really see a a way to remove some of the wires that are there.

http://img228.imageshack.us/im...5835/1111913713oe8.jpg

That picture right there. There are cables infront of that front fan. I can't really see a way to clear that out.

 

[DrMrLordX]

The front fans are more for cooling your harddrives anyway. As long as you have sufficient exhaust airflow you should be okay.

 

[emblem]

I might just think getting some fans at te top and see what happens.

Are some specified as intake or exhaust?
http://img522.imageshack.us/im...1797/1111913713dz3.jpg

I want the fan to cool my CPU so i would want an intake fan right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...d+case+fans&name=120mm

Would any of those be alright? Are fans hard to put in?