Dallas vs Spurs: Game 6

[manly]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ
OK

i was wrong, Spurs EXPLODED, but i still stand on the comment that SA is NOT known for being an explosive offensive team.

Heck, even the Miami Heat could offensively explode against Big-D.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: necro702
had Dirk not been injured this wouldn't have happened.

Plain and simple. Michael Finley is a great player but
he cannot carry the dirk load night in - night out.

Both Sacramento and Dallas are both better
than SA.

How good would the spurs be if they lost Duncan??

no way, neither Dirk Nor webber are as important to their respective teams as duncan is to his.

duncan, kidd, garnett should be 1-2-3 because of how different their respective teams would be without them.

both kings and mavs still make the playoffs without dirk or webber. Spurs, Nets and Timberwolves are lottery teams w/o their respective stars.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: coldcut
Spurs head coach = genius

agreed. very savvy tonight.


Dallas lost the game though. Only 2 points in the first 8-9 minutes of the 4th quarter! For this offensive team, even without Dirk, its horrendous. They flat out choked under the pressure.

 

[SludgeFactory]

Spurs finally found someone willing and able to hit WIDE OPEN SHOTS. The Mavs defense in the last 2 games has been preposterous. Nobody should ever be able to get away with packing the lane like that, but the Spurs inexplicably played into their hands for that long.

The Mavs totally caved, they panicked when Kerr got hot. Van Exel had nothing, Finley had nothing, Nash was just plain out-of-control. Maybe if a couple of those wild shots had gone down, things would have gone differently. How many turnovers did they commit in the 4th?

 

[Banana]

Finally, Dallas's cinderella season comes to an end. I bet no one thought they'd last six games into the conference finals! I wonder if the team can improve defensively next year without a major change. They showed defensive strength at times in the playoffs, but too few times.

And--I have to root for Jason Kidd in the finals!

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: SludgeFactory
Spurs finally found someone willing and able to hit WIDE OPEN SHOTS. The Mavs defense in the last 2 games has been preposterous. Nobody should ever be able to get away with packing the lane like that, but the Spurs inexplicably played into their hands for that long. The Mavs totally caved, they panicked when Kerr got hot. Van Exel had nothing, Finley had nothing, Nash was just plain out-of-control. Maybe if a couple of those wild shots had gone down, things would have gone differently. How many turnovers did they commit in the 4th?

One has to fault nellie too for not helping more to get the teams composure back. His timeouts were totally useless.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

jjsole - yea. Nellie may not be coaching next season. I kind of compare it to the Bucs situation. They might need a new coach to take them to the next level. Or maybe they just need another year to mature and get better

 

[Banana]

Don may be gone, but not necessarily based on performance. He's approaching retirement and it may be time to groom a new head coach. Question is: Are the Mavs suitable for a green coach? Will Donnie do well?

 

[Staples]

One more more to go.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
jjsole - yea. Nellie may not be coaching next season. I kind of compare it to the Bucs situation. They might need a new coach to take them to the next level. Or maybe they just need another year to mature and get better

On one hand nellie deserves alot of credit for dallas getting this far, he kept the spurs out of rhythem quite a bit, but I think you're right, they might need a 'closer' of a coach. But who would that be? Tomjanovich and PJ are the only 2 finals winning coaches in the past decade, so changing coaches is a huge risk. Maybe Van Gundy or even defensive minded Riley?

second thought, I'll go with your second option...one more year of maturity, with a defensive player added to the roster, and keep nellie since he got them two wins in the conference finals...without dirk.

 

[wyvrn]

There is no way Dallas makes it to the WC finals without Nellie. The Mavs have inferior depth to SA and sactown. Nellie's coaching moves eeked out the best of his team. He should have been a stronger candidate for coach of the year.

 

[Ludacris]

Nellie is a decent coach but the Mavs were very lucky this year to make the western finals. If portland didnt have injuries, Mavs are gone. If the kings didnt have injuries, they are defainitely gone. Spur should have flat out swept the MAvs with or without Dirk. They choked the first game and won the next 3.

 

[wyvrn]

Shoulda coulda woulda. I can argue if the Mavs hard Dirk back they would have beaten SA in the WCF because they almost did it without him. So what?

Originally posted by: Ludacris
Nellie is a decent coach but the Mavs were very lucky this year to make the western finals. If portland didnt have injuries, Mavs are gone. If the kings didnt have injuries, they are defainitely gone. Spur should have flat out swept the MAvs with or without Dirk. They choked the first game and won the next 3.

 

[Ludacris]

Almost? You are smokin rocks son. It wasn't even close. Only thing close about it was the fact that they may have forced a game 7. Instead, the Mavs couldn't win on their home floor at all during the series and the refs litterally gave them game 1. Spurs blew out the mavs in every game this series basically and they closed out the Mavs without their key point guard being on the floor.

Bottom line: Mavs are gone fishing and they will be broken up this offseason.

 

[wyvrn]

Almost? You are smokin rocks son. It wasn't even close. Only thing close about it was the fact that they may have forced a game 7.

Forcing a game 7 is as close as a 7 game series can get.

Instead, the Mavs couldn't win on their home floor at all during the series and the refs litterally gave them game 1.

Any argument that uses the refs as a scapegoat is lame. The refs make mistakes on both sides, they are not perfect. There were games where SA got many more foul shots than the Mavs, but I don't hear you talking about them.

Spurs blew out the mavs in every game this series basically and they closed out the Mavs without their key point guard being on the floor.

It's hard to blow out a team in your two losses. On the flip side of your coin, the Mavs took SA to 6 games (almost 7) without their best player for most of the series, not just one quarter like Parker. In addition, the Mavs lost their starting center Bradley and a backup in Eschmeyer for the series.

Bottom line: Mavs are gone fishing and they will be broken up this offseason.

It was really sweet making that idiot Barkley eat his words. Barkely said he would throw Dallas a parade if they beat SA once in this series. The way I see it, Barkley needs to throw Dallas two. Hahahaha!

They won't be broken up. They were on the virge of going to the finals without their best player in the last series. They only need improve on what they have accomplished this far, which is more than anyone expected them to do this year.

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: Ludacris
Almost? You are smokin rocks son. It wasn't even close. Only thing close about it was the fact that they may have forced a game 7. Instead, the Mavs couldn't win on their home floor at all during the series and the refs litterally gave them game 1. Spurs blew out the mavs in every game this series basically and they closed out the Mavs without their key point guard being on the floor.

Bottom line: Mavs are gone fishing and they will be broken up this offseason.

bottom line is the spurs are one damn lucky team. they faced an unmotivated laker squad and then manage to survive against a team that was playing w/out their best player and struggling to overcome other key injuries.

were gonna witness the weakest championchip team since 1999*

 

[supesman]

Lucky? I don't know about that, when you win 4 games out of 6 i wouldn't call that lucky at all. Lucky is what stephon marbury did by hitting the three pointer to end the game to give phoenix the 1-0 lead over the spurs. Lucky is how the lakers almost took away a game in SA on Robert Horry's shot. I wouldn't call any of the spurs wins lucky by that standard. They played great the entire playoffs. As for unmotivated teams, if you're in the playoffs you had better play, it's as simple as that. Lakers beat a good team in Minnesota so i know they were motivated enough to beat SA, but SA just had a better team this year. I'm sure all the lakers lovers love to bash SA 'cuz they're the only ones to knock LA out twice in the last 5 years. I only see SA getting better next year, let's see what the lakers do to improve their squad.

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: Ludacris
Almost? You are smokin rocks son. It wasn't even close. Only thing close about it was the fact that they may have forced a game 7. Instead, the Mavs couldn't win on their home floor at all during the series and the refs litterally gave them game 1. Spurs blew out the mavs in every game this series basically and they closed out the Mavs without their key point guard being on the floor.

Bottom line: Mavs are gone fishing and they will be broken up this offseason.

bottom line is the spurs are one damn lucky team. they faced an unmotivated laker squad and then manage to survive against a team that was playing w/out their best player and struggling to overcome other key injuries.

were gonna witness the weakest championchip team since 1999*

 

[Ludacris]

1. Forcing game seven and almost forcing game 7 is a big difference. So no, its not even close. So what you should be saying is that the Mavs almost made it a close series.

2. The mavs have won 1 game without their star and that wasn't because the Mavs are good, it's because the Spurs are young and gave up the lead. Period. The mavs playoff run this year is actually considered lucky. Van Excel even admitted that himself in a postgame interview. He knows the Mavs will not be back for a long time.

3. The Laker Lovers are still upset that the Spurs made Kobe cry like a little baby on national t.v. The Lakers got beat by the "weak" Spurs and they were sobbing on T.V. like big sissies. The cocky lakers and their fans had to eat a big slice of humble pie and they don't like it. Get some tissue/babywipes and get over it.

4. The Spurs will be even better next year so get used to seeing Duncan going to the finals.

5. The Nets will be tough this year and they will play the Spurs str8 up and not double Tim. You heard it here first. If the Nets don't win game one, Spurs win in 5. If Nets win game 1, Spurs win in 6.

 

[wyvrn]

Forcing game seven and almost forcing game 7 is a big difference. So no, its not even close. So what you should be saying is that the Mavs almost made it a close series

They were one quarter away from tying up the series, without two starters (one their best player) and a reserve. Yes I call that close. Give the Mavs their players back and it goes to a game 7. That is close. But props to SA for winning the west in 6 games as I predicted they would before it all started.

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: supesman
Lucky? I don't know about that, when you win 4 games out of 6 i wouldn't call that lucky at all. Lucky is what stephon marbury did by hitting the three pointer to end the game to give phoenix the 1-0 lead over the spurs. Lucky is how the lakers almost took away a game in SA on Robert Horry's shot. I wouldn't call any of the spurs wins lucky by that standard. They played great the entire playoffs. As for unmotivated teams, if you're in the playoffs you had better play, it's as simple as that. Lakers beat a good team in Minnesota so i know they were motivated enough to beat SA, but SA just had a better team this year. I'm sure all the lakers lovers love to bash SA 'cuz they're the only ones to knock LA out twice in the last 5 years. I only see SA getting better next year, let's see what the lakers do to improve their squad.

Twice in the last five years - lol! Since Phil Jackson has arrived the lakers have utterly dominated the Spurs in all aspects of the game. Actually they have dominated the entire league, not just the spurs. It was obvious from the get go that the lakers didnt have the motivation this year - from Shaq waiting untill just before the season to have surgery to Phil Jackson admiittedly not being able to coach the way he wanted because of health reasons. The lakers simply ran out of gas. Too many games over the last three years finally took its toll. Are the Spurs any better this year than last? Than two years ago? Umm no. And lets face it, if it wasnt for some very friendly officiating the lakers probably would have beat the Spurs again this year - despite playing like shlt. And you wanna talk about luck?? Right off the top of my head i remember kobe being fouled on an attempted three pointer to tie the game in the final two minutes (either game 1 or game 2) and the foul not being called - thats luck. And in all honesty i dont think the Spurs needed any help from the refs, but they certainly got it anyway.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: Ludacris
1. Forcing game seven and almost forcing game 7 is a big difference. So no, its not even close. So what you should be saying is that the Mavs almost made it a close series.

It was a very close series. I don't see how being mere minutes away from forcing a Game 7 isn't a close series. Maybe you define a close Game 6 as "not even a close series" but Game 7 as a "close" series without even taking into account lead changes and the like.

Originally posted by: Ludacris
2. The mavs have won 1 game without their star and that wasn't because the Mavs are good, it's because the Spurs are young and gave up the lead. Period.

What an odd statement. The Mavs beat the Spurs in Game 5 because the Spurs are young and inexperienced. Gee, who's fault is that?

Originally posted by: Ludacris
The mavs playoff run this year is actually considered lucky. Van Excel even admitted that himself in a postgame interview. He knows the Mavs will not be back for a long time.

I would love to know where and when you heard this.

Originally posted by: Ludacris
3. The Laker Lovers are still upset that the Spurs made Kobe cry like a little baby on national t.v.

Tim Duncan cryed after at least one of the 8 losses against the Lakers in the WCSF the last two years. Who cares?

Originally posted by: Ludacris
The Lakers got beat by the "weak" Spurs and they were sobbing on T.V. like big sissies.

Ah, that's right, you're that bandwagon Laker-hater.

Originally posted by: Ludacris
The cocky lakers and their fans had to eat a big slice of humble pie and they don't like it. Get some tissue/babywipes and get over it.

Never understood how anyone can call the Lakers cocky, they have won the NBA title the last 3 years you know...

Originally posted by: Ludacris
4. The Spurs will be even better next year so get used to seeing Duncan going to the finals.

LOL, predicting next year's playoffs already without even knowing which new players the Spurs/Lakers/Kings/Mavs, etc. will be picking up?

Originally posted by: Ludacris
5. The Nets will be tough this year and they will play the Spurs str8 up and not double Tim. You heard it here first. If the Nets don't win game one, Spurs win in 5. If Nets win game 1, Spurs win in 6.

I predict Nets in 6 assuming no one is injured and Spurs keep choking away 4th quarters.

 

[Corporate Thug]

bring it on nets, spurs in 5

 

[diamondgoat53]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

if Kidd was as adept at shooting (40% lifetime) as he is at beating his wife, they'd have a chance.

and with this you show yourself to be ignorant.

he beat his wife ONCE, if he only made one shot his entire life, he never would have made the NBA. DUHHH.

NEXT.

like i said, if he hit shots anywhere nearly as often or with the same percentage as he hit his wife, maybe this series would be close. 4-17? i guarantee he didn't miss that wife of his 13 times.