Dad Wears Nazi Uniform For Child Custody Case

[zinfamous]

This is dangerous thinking IMO.

What it seems to me you are saying is "We currently view Nazi speech as "hateful", so naming your children after Nazi type things is considered hateful, and therefore should warrant child abuse." (please correct me if I am wrong). This line of thinking concerns me because I happen to be a Christian. Christianity and the Bible are often seen as "hateful". Could that same line of thinking mean that there could be cause to remove my children from my home because they are named after biblical figures, and because I teach them about Christianity?

It feels like the only difference is in the perspective of the person deciding what type of speech/teaching is OK and what is not.

and there we have it: from Nazis to Jesus.

you said it...

 

[Oyeve]

Wow, I think I worked with that guy once! If its him, yes, hes a crazy bastard.

 

[Lazarus52980]

and there we have it: from Nazis to Jesus.

you said it...

What I am saying is that the names of your children and the content of the way you instruct them are protected by the 1st amendment. While I might not agree with what he chooses to name his children, or the instruction they are given, I firmly believe that he has the right to do so, and the laws of this country (should) back that up.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

This is dangerous thinking IMO.

What it seems to me you are saying is "We currently view Nazi speech as "hateful", so naming your children after Nazi type things is considered hateful, and therefore should warrant child abuse." (please correct me if I am wrong). This line of thinking concerns me because I happen to be a Christian. Christianity and the Bible are often seen as "hateful". Could that same line of thinking mean that there could be cause to remove my children from my home because they are named after biblical figures, and because I teach them about Christianity?

It feels like the only difference is in the perspective of the person deciding what type of speech/teaching is OK and what is not.

All laws are based on society determining what they find appropriate or acceptable behavior. In our current society, Christianity is given fairly significant prominence; just look at our elected officials, the majority of whom are publicly Christian. Nazism is considered taboo. I don't think anyone is going to try to take your kids away for naming them Zebedee and Hephzibah.

 

[GundamW]

The question you will have to ask yourself is:
Do you want the government/court to have the power to determine whether your child's name is deem appropriate or not?

 

[techs]

I think people are confusing Nazism with Fascism.

He was wearing a recreation of a Nazi uniform. The crimes of the Nazi party are well known and include genocide. So, its not as much a philosophical statement the guy is making but an identification with mass murderers.

 

[Theb]

What I am saying is that the names of your children and the content of the way you instruct them are protected by the 1st amendment. While I might not agree with what he chooses to name his children, or the instruction they are given, I firmly believe that he has the right to do so, and the laws of this country (should) back that up.

The question you will have to ask yourself is:
Do you want the government/court to have the power to determine whether your child's name is deem appropriate or not?

Do you guys think there is a line that shouldn't be crossed? Feces, Rape-me, Pedophile, all acceptable names for 1st graders?

 

[Genx87]

Does freedom of speech extend to naming children? The state determines the boundaries of child names, if I'm not mistaken.

They do but afaik the state didnt object to these names when they were filed. The guy is an effing toolbox. But if the state cant prove abuse. Then what right do we have to take his children?

 

[Genx87]

All laws are based on society determining what they find appropriate or acceptable behavior. In our current society, Christianity is given fairly significant prominence; just look at our elected officials, the majority of whom are publicly Christian. Nazism is considered taboo. I don't think anyone is going to try to take your kids away for naming them Zebedee and Hephzibah.

So in other words mob rule. Mob rule has never produced poor results.

 

[Slew Foot]

lol. what an idiot

 

[Jaskalas]

I think people are confusing Nazism with Fascism.

He was wearing a recreation of a Nazi uniform. The crimes of the Nazi party are well known and include genocide. So, its not as much a philosophical statement the guy is making but an identification with mass murderers.

One can make similar statements regarding the US and drone strikes, being mass murderers.

 

[BlitzPuppet]

It's funny, the very Propaganda that Disney put out in the 30s or 40s (An Education of Death) criticized this very practice of the name "Hans" not being on the Verboten (Forbidden) list of names.

WWII History is extremely interesting, especially if you study the other side in the conflict.

 

[techs]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ghting-custody-adolf-hitler-article-1.1367217

Nazi-obsessed father who named son Adolf Hilter still fighting for custody in New Jersey

Heath Campbell's ex-wife tells horrifying tale of beatings and abuse against their children as the Nazi-crazed father on public assistance fights to regain visitation rights to see Hons Heinrich, Adolf Hitler, Aryan Nation and Honz*lynn Jeannie.

“He claimed that his mother was raped and he was the evil seed planted inside her,” Cathy Bowlby told The News. “He believed he was the devil reborn to take over the world.”

“He’d say, ‘I believe in the devil. I worship the devil. I am the devil.’ ”

Campbell, who would go on to name one of his sons Adolf Hitler, even lobbied Bowlby to name their first-born Lucifer. But she “talked him out of it” by suggesting that their son take their father’s name instead.

That didn’t stop Campbell from acting like the devil, Bowlby said.

One of his favorite activities was taking Bowlby on car rides to a local cemetery.

“To show me where he was going to bury me when he killed me,” Bowlby said.

He also terrorized their son, Heath. Once, furious that his 2-year-old had knocked into the curtains, Campbell picked up a running vacuum cleaner and held it inches from Heath’s face.

“He was absolutely terrified,” Bowlby said. “For years after, he would scream and cry when he saw a vacuum cleaner.”

Bowlby revealed Campbell’s violent past days after he showed up at a custody hearing in Flemington, N.J., Tuesday dressed like his infamous idol and proudly showing off swastika tattoos on his neck and arms.




Could just be a vengeful ex wife, but wtf?

 

[Ruptga]

All laws are based on society determining what they find appropriate or acceptable behavior. In our current society, Christianity is given fairly significant prominence; just look at our elected officials, the majority of whom are publicly Christian. Nazism is considered taboo. I don't think anyone is going to try to take your kids away for naming them Zebedee and Hephzibah.

So in other words mob rule. Mob rule has never produced poor results.

Why do you hate democracy?

 

[mistercrabby]

This less to do with politics or world views, and more to do with a whether this individual can be a good parent.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

So, so true.

 

[zinfamous]

One can make similar statements regarding the US and drone strikes, being mass murderers.

...and that would be a silly stretch.

let's see:

targeted murder of an entire segment of non-combatant civilians based on ethnicity, race, nationality, and mental/developmental disorders

vs

targeted killing of motivated and self-described enemy combatants that naturally, and unfortunately, leads to collatoral killing of innocent non-combatants.

:hmm:

 

[sourceninja]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ghting-custody-adolf-hitler-article-1.1367217

....

He also terrorized their son, Heath. Once, furious that his 2-year-old had knocked into the curtains, Campbell picked up a running vacuum cleaner and held it inches from Heath’s face.

“He was absolutely terrified,” Bowlby said. “For years after, he would scream and cry when he saw a vacuum cleaner.”

That's a pretty strange account to be made up. If that is true this man should just be executed for the good of the rest of us.

 

[mistercrabby]

"The government is taking my kids away! What is this Nazi Germany... because that would be awesome!"

 

[Colt45]

He should wear the old all black SS uniforms instead. Those look sharp at least.

 

[Genx87]

Why do you hate democracy?

We arent a direct democracy. And there is good reason why.