Dad Shoots and Kills Son, Hunter, in Turkey Hunt

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Hey, if Dick Cheney can mistake an old man for a bird, i can definitely see an 8 year old boy as an even more confusing target.

neither case justifies the other.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
you most certainly do. i come from a family of hunters. my brothers wear orange vests/hats when hunting, and they easily bag turkeys while doing so.

Yeah, but they use RPG's 😛

 

[imported_Lothar]

What a redneck.

 

[OutHouse]

really sad, my son is 8 and if i shot and killed him i would have to be locked in a padded room for the rest of my life.

but then again, if i took my boy hunting he would be superglued to my hip. and wearing orange. yea i know orange isnt required for turkey hunting but for safety's sake we both would be.

 

[NaOH]

Poor kid 🙁
I don't think the dad will last much longer due to the guilt.


I totally want to make UT joke. But I'll refrain.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: Lothar
I'm a tool.

Fixed. :disgust:

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: UncleWai
Looks like Hunter became the hunted.

:laugh: 🙁

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: oddyager

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Instead of dressing your son in camo, try an orange vest next time.

How many turkeys do you know wear orange vests? Exactly.

you don't wear blaze orange when hunting turkey.

you most certainly do. i come from a family of hunters. my brothers wear orange vests/hats when hunting, and they easily bag turkeys while doing so.

I have been turkey hunting for about 20yrs and have never seen a hunter in blaze orange. For deer hunting with a rifle I wear it but not turkey. Their eyesight is way too good.

Regardless, if you are going to go hunting with an 8 year old, take every precaution necessary. You can hunt wild turkey with orange - camo blends just fine.

the only way an 8yo should be out there is in their parents back pocket. No reason for him to be sitting alone. You only really have 2 options when turkey hunting: wear full camo and prepare to kill one or wear orange and not get within a couple hundred yds of one. There really is no in between. I'm sure the father in hindsight would have chosen the latter but what he did makes it sound like he is a poor excuse for a hunter anyway.

 

[Xavier434]

That is horrible! 🙁

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Instead of dressing your son in camo, try an orange vest next time.

How many turkeys do you know wear orange vests? Exactly.

you don't wear blaze orange when hunting turkey.

you most certainly do. i come from a family of hunters. my brothers wear orange vests/hats when hunting, and they easily bag turkeys while doing so.

I have been turkey hunting for about 20yrs and have never seen a hunter in blaze orange. For deer hunting with a rifle I wear it but not turkey. Their eyesight is way too good.

some states require it i believe.

Blaze orange is used when hunting color blind animals with high powered rifles. Turkeys are hunted at very close range, generally with a shotgun, and have very good COLOR vision. I have never heard of anyone hunting turkeys in blaze orange. They are probably the toughest game animal to hunt - blaze orange would make it nearly impossible.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
That is horrible! 🙁

I imagine the turkeys would find it ironic if they had a better developed sense of irony.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Instead of dressing your son in camo, try an orange vest next time.

How many turkeys do you know wear orange vests? Exactly.

you don't wear blaze orange when hunting turkey.

you most certainly do. i come from a family of hunters. my brothers wear orange vests/hats when hunting, and they easily bag turkeys while doing so.

I have been turkey hunting for about 20yrs and have never seen a hunter in blaze orange. For deer hunting with a rifle I wear it but not turkey. Their eyesight is way too good.

some states require it i believe.

Blaze orange is used when hunting color blind animals with high powered rifles. Turkeys are hunted at very close range, generally with a shotgun, and have very good COLOR vision. I have never heard of anyone hunting turkeys in blaze orange. They are probably the toughest game animal to hunt - blaze orange would make it nearly impossible.

what part of my brothers wear orange and easily bag turkeys did you not read?

PA just changed the requirement this year
http://www.buckmasters.com/bm/...cleId/779/Default.aspx


also, required in Missouri
http://mdc.mo.gov/hunt/deer/genregs.htm

Hunter-orange requirements

The following persons are required to wear a cap or hat and also a shirt, vest or coat of hunter orange so that the color is plainly visible from all sides. Camouflage orange does not satisfy this requirement.

all hunters (except migratory bird hunters) during the urban counties, youth, November and antlerless portions in open counties.
Note: Fall firearms turkey hunters must wear hunter orange in some counties Oct. 6?9 (see Firearms Deer Hunting) and statewide Oct. 28?29.

http://mdc.mo.gov/hunt/deer/genregs.htm

i'm sure i could go on, but maybe hunters should all brush up on their state requirements themselves before heading out.

 

[KB]

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Instead of dressing your son in camo, try an orange vest next time.

How many turkeys do you know wear orange vests? Exactly.

you don't wear blaze orange when hunting turkey.

you most certainly do. i come from a family of hunters. my brothers wear orange vests/hats when hunting, and they easily bag turkeys while doing so.

I have been turkey hunting for about 20yrs and have never seen a hunter in blaze orange. For deer hunting with a rifle I wear it but not turkey. Their eyesight is way too good.

some states require it i believe.

Blaze orange is used when hunting color blind animals with high powered rifles. Turkeys are hunted at very close range, generally with a shotgun, and have very good COLOR vision. I have never heard of anyone hunting turkeys in blaze orange. They are probably the toughest game animal to hunt - blaze orange would make it nearly impossible.

When turkey hunting I was always taught to wear blaze orange when moving about so other hunters see you, and to remove your blaze orange vest and hide it when stopped and waiting for turkeys to come to you. The child should not have been moving to his father without an orange vest on. The father should have known the direction his son was and to pay special attention for anything coming that direction. He got turkeys eyes and paid the ultimate price for it.

 

[Baked]

Imagine the turkey's reaction when it saw this tragedy. The guilt will surely roast it to juicy tenderness. It should've been shot, not the boy.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Just terrible, being a father I can't even fathom what he's going through. More than likely I would've offed myself by now..

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Instead of dressing your son in camo, try an orange vest next time.

How many turkeys do you know wear orange vests? Exactly.

you don't wear blaze orange when hunting turkey.

you most certainly do. i come from a family of hunters. my brothers wear orange vests/hats when hunting, and they easily bag turkeys while doing so.

I have been turkey hunting for about 20yrs and have never seen a hunter in blaze orange. For deer hunting with a rifle I wear it but not turkey. Their eyesight is way too good.

some states require it i believe.

Blaze orange is used when hunting color blind animals with high powered rifles. Turkeys are hunted at very close range, generally with a shotgun, and have very good COLOR vision. I have never heard of anyone hunting turkeys in blaze orange. They are probably the toughest game animal to hunt - blaze orange would make it nearly impossible.

what part of my brothers wear orange and easily bag turkeys did you not read?

PA just changed the requirement this year
http://www.buckmasters.com/bm/...cleId/779/Default.aspx


also, required in Missouri
http://mdc.mo.gov/hunt/deer/genregs.htm

Hunter-orange requirements

The following persons are required to wear a cap or hat and also a shirt, vest or coat of hunter orange so that the color is plainly visible from all sides. Camouflage orange does not satisfy this requirement.

all hunters (except migratory bird hunters) during the urban counties, youth, November and antlerless portions in open counties.
Note: Fall firearms turkey hunters must wear hunter orange in some counties Oct. 6?9 (see Firearms Deer Hunting) and statewide Oct. 28?29.

http://mdc.mo.gov/hunt/deer/genregs.htm

i'm sure i could go on, but maybe hunters should all brush up on their state requirements themselves before heading out.

Did you read the links you provided? PA says you have to wear it when moving from one hunting area to the other, and Missouri says if you have to wear it during deer season only.(on the few days seasons overlap, so you don't get shot by a deer hunter) Neither of those states require it during turkey hunting.

Either way, you are an idiot if you shoot anything other than a turkey when turkey hunting. Blaze orange or not.

 

[Josh123]

I'm pretty sure I heard about another case like this when I was growing up but the son was in a tree and was shot by his father. Pretty bad stuff 🙁

 

[skace]

I have a hard time calling this a tragic accident instead of a complete lack of caution. If you were hunting with your 8 year old son, wouldn't you check where he is before every shot?

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: skace
I have a hard time calling this a tragic accident instead of a complete lack of caution. If you were hunting with your 8 year old son, wouldn't you check where he is before every shot?

Why not both?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Instead of dressing your son in camo, try an orange vest next time.

How many turkeys do you know wear orange vests? Exactly.

you don't wear blaze orange when hunting turkey.

you most certainly do. i come from a family of hunters. my brothers wear orange vests/hats when hunting, and they easily bag turkeys while doing so.

I have been turkey hunting for about 20yrs and have never seen a hunter in blaze orange. For deer hunting with a rifle I wear it but not turkey. Their eyesight is way too good.

some states require it i believe.

Blaze orange is used when hunting color blind animals with high powered rifles. Turkeys are hunted at very close range, generally with a shotgun, and have very good COLOR vision. I have never heard of anyone hunting turkeys in blaze orange. They are probably the toughest game animal to hunt - blaze orange would make it nearly impossible.

what part of my brothers wear orange and easily bag turkeys did you not read?

PA just changed the requirement this year
http://www.buckmasters.com/bm/...cleId/779/Default.aspx


also, required in Missouri
http://mdc.mo.gov/hunt/deer/genregs.htm

Hunter-orange requirements

The following persons are required to wear a cap or hat and also a shirt, vest or coat of hunter orange so that the color is plainly visible from all sides. Camouflage orange does not satisfy this requirement.

all hunters (except migratory bird hunters) during the urban counties, youth, November and antlerless portions in open counties.
Note: Fall firearms turkey hunters must wear hunter orange in some counties Oct. 6?9 (see Firearms Deer Hunting) and statewide Oct. 28?29.

http://mdc.mo.gov/hunt/deer/genregs.htm

i'm sure i could go on, but maybe hunters should all brush up on their state requirements themselves before heading out.

Did you read the links you provided? PA says you have to wear it when moving from one hunting area to the other, and Missouri says if you have to wear it during deer season only.(on the few days seasons overlap, so you don't get shot by a deer hunter) Neither of those states require it during turkey hunting.

Either way, you are an idiot if you shoot anything other than a turkey when turkey hunting. Blaze orange or not.

Yes, I read the articles. PA required fluorescent orange for spring gobbler hunters, but just this year changed it.

and Missouri specifically addressed turkey hunters too.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Shotgun hunting is an up close and personal sport. You don't need orange clothes. No one is shooting at anything more than a couple of hundred feet away at most.

Dad is a dipshit and should have turned the gun on himself.

 

[V00DOO]

That would be my worst nightmare.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
Why not both?

I don't know, I suppose in my mind calling it a tragic accident alleviates blame. Like that scene from Hot Fuzz where he says "They are no longer called traffic accidents, because that insinuates no one is to blame, they are now called traffic violations".

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: moshquerade
how did his son look like a turkey? did he have a beard and feathers? 😕
the father had turkey fever and shot something he really was positive was a turkey.

imho, 8 yrs old is too young to be out hunting.

You also use a call when turkey hunting. This is just a tragic accident.

What does using a call have to do with mistaken identity?

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Xavier434
Why not both?

I don't know, I suppose in my mind calling it a tragic accident alleviates blame. Like that scene from Hot Fuzz where he says "They are no longer called traffic accidents, because that insinuates no one is to blame, they are now called traffic violations".

I suppose. That's all political correctness stuff though when it comes to verbage. To me, an accident is something that happens without intent such as this case. That doesn't mean that there was no way to prevent such a thing. There is always a way. However, I don't feel that there is a need to actively blame the father despite whether it was his fault or not. I feel that unless he was breaking some sort of law then no punishment should take place. What he now has to go through emotionally is far worse than any punishment the court system can deal him.