Da Bears......

[Spineshank]

Grossman would be a lot better under a better team. The Bears are rebuilding it seems and this is just a move so they can draft a QB this year. Hopefully they wont draft Woodson cause i dont think hes going to be the answer for them either.

 

[Xed]

Angelo will probably trade our first round pick for two third and a sixth rounder..

 

[middlehead]

Originally posted by: Summit
Sexy Rexy cannot get the job done

Sexy Rexy could, but he only shows up every 10 games or so.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: ric1287
yep, rex was the ONLY problem the bears had this year.

Didn't have anything to do with worst O-Line ever, worst Receivers, no Running back, worst O-play caller in the league, half the D injured. Definitely all rex.

They didn't sign him to a long term deal, its a one year last chance opp. They can still sign somebody else, but why take the chance, lose rex, and then be stuck with greesy or orton. I'll take Rex over greesy's old ass any day.

Unless you watch games instead of just sportscenter highlights, you cannot comment.

even last year when he had a great Defense, o-line and recievers HE STILL SUCKED. yeah they made it to the superbowl but NOT because of Res they made it Dispite him.

sure he would hav e a great game. then get lazy the next.


greise is nto the answere. but niether is REx. only good news is its a 1 yr contract. i don't expect much out of him..


it is kinda funny for a QB that went to the Super bowl the other year he could only get a 1 yr deal for 3 mil. hah buess he knew his options are limited..

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: Xed
Look how "highly" Eli Manning was regarded up through most of last year and he winds up the super bowl mvp. I doubt it'll happen for good ol' Rex because the Bears have far too many questions and lack answers, but you never know. This move was obviously to try to convince Berrian to stick around.

The difference is that Eli had already won a number of big games with his arm by this point in his career... the Bears big wins with Rexy at QB have largely been despite his play.

Also the reason Giants fans were so down on Eli all the time was that it seemed every time he was about to turn the corner & consistantly play to potential he would turn in a couple incredible stinkers.

Grossman has shown that he has a very strong arm, but very little to no sense of what going on around him and thats somthing you can't teach ... you never know I suppose, but somhow I just can't see him ever being more then a backup QB in the NFL & a shaky one at that.

 

[Captante]

Whoops!

 

[chuckywang]

As a Packers fan, I wish the best of luck to Grossman.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Dirigible
One year is not exactly a vote of confidence. $3M is not what you pay a valued starting quarterback. It's more a statement that, "We got no one better right now so we need some filler."

Still it's sad that the Bears have no one better than that guy. I'm not a Bears fan. Do they have anyone better?

No. It'll be a competition in camp between Kyle Orton and Grossman. Brian Griese will likely be cut soon. A rookie will definitely be drafted, somewhere between the 2nd-4th rounds. Signing Grossman is an acknowledgement that there is no one better out there right now, so might as well sign him on the cheap for one year. No matter what anyone claims, he still has the potential to be a solid starting QB. If he falls flat again this year, he won't be in camp next year. If he does do well, he'll be a steal. There is no real downside to this.

Originally posted by: ric1287
yep, rex was the ONLY problem the bears had this year.

Didn't have anything to do with worst O-Line ever, worst Receivers, no Running back, worst O-play caller in the league, half the D injured. Definitely all rex.

They didn't sign him to a long term deal, its a one year last chance opp. They can still sign somebody else, but why take the chance, lose rex, and then be stuck with greesy or orton. I'll take Rex over greesy's old ass any day.

Unless you watch games instead of just sportscenter highlights, you cannot comment.

Exactly. People who only watch sportscenter have a much lower image of Rex than Bears fans do. That's because in the commentary world, you can't be complex. Either you're one of the best qb's of all time, or you've never thrown an accurate pass in your life. There was a poll on chicagosports.com and only 10% of people hated this move. 14% loved it and 53% were okay with it.

Donovan McNabb isn't walking through that door. Unless/until the Bears can bring in a proven elite nfl qb, Rex is an acceptable stopgap until one can be drafted. Billy Volek is 31 years old and has completed 4 passes since 2005. He had 1 mediocre year in 2004, and rode the bench the rest of his career.

 

[techs]

Due to injuries, Rex has only 2 years game experience.
Who knows? He has the arm, and many quaterbacks took 3-4 years before the clicked.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Captante

Originally posted by: Xed
Look how "highly" Eli Manning was regarded up through most of last year and he winds up the super bowl mvp. I doubt it'll happen for good ol' Rex because the Bears have far too many questions and lack answers, but you never know. This move was obviously to try to convince Berrian to stick around.

The difference is that Eli had already won a number of big games with his arm by this point in his career... the Bears big wins with Rexy at QB have largely been despite his play.

Also the reason Giants fans were so down on Eli all the time was that it seemed every time he was about to turn the corner & consistantly play to potential he would turn in a couple incredible stinkers.

Grossman has shown that he has a very strong arm, but very little to no sense of what going on around him and thats somthing you can't teach ... you never know I suppose, but somhow I just can't see him ever being more then a backup QB in the NFL & a shaky one at that.

You're saying that Grossman didn't win any big games with his arm? The stats and my eyes say you're mistaken. Grossman's 2006 season was more impressive than Eli's 2007 season.

http://www.nfl.com/players/rex...=GRO597298&season=2006
http://www.nfl.com/players/eli.../gamelogs?id=MAN473170

The difference between Eli and Rex is that Rex had a horrible game in the superbowl, and Eli had a good one so all his past sins are forgiven. What you were saying about playing to potential is the exact same problem that Rex has had. You don't have 8 games in a season with a passer rating of 100+ by accident. There is talent there.

It's true that Rex's sense of the pass rush leaves something to be desired. However, with a good offensive line that wouldn't matter much. It's not like there are many qbs that can succeed with a bad O-line. The Bears O-line in 2007 was one of the worst in football. There's a reason 2 of the 5 starters just got released.

 

[Muadib]

THANK GOD!!!! I heard rumors that the Vikes were actually interested in him.

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: Captante

Originally posted by: Xed
Look how "highly" Eli Manning was regarded up through most of last year and he winds up the super bowl mvp. I doubt it'll happen for good ol' Rex because the Bears have far too many questions and lack answers, but you never know. This move was obviously to try to convince Berrian to stick around.

The difference is that Eli had already won a number of big games with his arm by this point in his career... the Bears big wins with Rexy at QB have largely been despite his play.

Also the reason Giants fans were so down on Eli all the time was that it seemed every time he was about to turn the corner & consistantly play to potential he would turn in a couple incredible stinkers.

Grossman has shown that he has a very strong arm, but very little to no sense of what going on around him and thats somthing you can't teach ... you never know I suppose, but somhow I just can't see him ever being more then a backup QB in the NFL & a shaky one at that.

You're saying that Grossman didn't win any big games with his arm? The stats and my eyes say you're mistaken. Grossman's 2006 season was more impressive than Eli's 2007 season.

http://www.nfl.com/players/rex...=GRO597298&season=2006
http://www.nfl.com/players/eli.../gamelogs?id=MAN473170

The difference between Eli and Rex is that Rex had a horrible game in the superbowl, and Eli had a good one so all his past sins are forgiven. What you were saying about playing to potential is the exact same problem that Rex has had. You don't have 8 games in a season with a passer rating of 100+ by accident. There is talent there.

It's true that Rex's sense of the pass rush leaves something to be desired. However, with a good offensive line that wouldn't matter much. It's not like there are many qbs that can succeed with a bad O-line. The Bears O-line in 2007 was one of the worst in football. There's a reason 2 of the 5 starters just got released.

Don't get me wrong ... as a Giants fan perhaps the most shocking (bordering on surreal) words I've ever heard were "Eli Manning Superbowl MVP", but despite what the statistics show Grossman has never looked good for an entire big game that I've seen and he was carried through the 2006 season mainly by the outstanding play of his defense, the Bears passing game was just bad in 2006 despite those misleading passing stats.

Also don't get the idea that I think Eli is the second coming of Joe Montana or anything ... although he'll always have a place in my heart after this years playoff run, I won't be convinced he's permenantly turned the corner until mid-season next year with no "bad Eli" making an appearence.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: Captante

Originally posted by: Xed
Look how "highly" Eli Manning was regarded up through most of last year and he winds up the super bowl mvp. I doubt it'll happen for good ol' Rex because the Bears have far too many questions and lack answers, but you never know. This move was obviously to try to convince Berrian to stick around.

The difference is that Eli had already won a number of big games with his arm by this point in his career... the Bears big wins with Rexy at QB have largely been despite his play.

Also the reason Giants fans were so down on Eli all the time was that it seemed every time he was about to turn the corner & consistantly play to potential he would turn in a couple incredible stinkers.

Grossman has shown that he has a very strong arm, but very little to no sense of what going on around him and thats somthing you can't teach ... you never know I suppose, but somhow I just can't see him ever being more then a backup QB in the NFL & a shaky one at that.

You're saying that Grossman didn't win any big games with his arm? The stats and my eyes say you're mistaken. Grossman's 2006 season was more impressive than Eli's 2007 season.

http://www.nfl.com/players/rex...=GRO597298&season=2006
http://www.nfl.com/players/eli.../gamelogs?id=MAN473170

The difference between Eli and Rex is that Rex had a horrible game in the superbowl, and Eli had a good one so all his past sins are forgiven. What you were saying about playing to potential is the exact same problem that Rex has had. You don't have 8 games in a season with a passer rating of 100+ by accident. There is talent there.

It's true that Rex's sense of the pass rush leaves something to be desired. However, with a good offensive line that wouldn't matter much. It's not like there are many qbs that can succeed with a bad O-line. The Bears O-line in 2007 was one of the worst in football. There's a reason 2 of the 5 starters just got released.

"Grossman's 2006 season was more impressive than Eli's 2007 season."

What? Are you actually LOOKING at the stats? That's some wonderful crack you're smoking.

The problem with Rex is he's either good or he flat out sucks. He's not consistently good with just bad games here and there.

Eli threw more than 2 INT's in a game ONE TIME. Rex threw more than 2 INT's FIVE TIMES. Say it with me again FIVE TIMES.

He had (4) 3 INT games and one 4 INT game. Eli had 4 INT's in one game - but it's the game that his big brother attended.

Rex - 3,193 Yrds, 23 TD's and 20 INT's. He also had 0 rushing TD's and a 54.6% completion percentage.

Eli - 3,336 yrds, 23 TD's and 20 INT's. He rushed for 1 TD and had a 56.2 comp.

So Eli had more yards, more TD's overall and a better pass comp percentage. He also rushed for more yards.

Then lets break down the post season:

Eli - 854 yrds, 6 TD's and 1 INT's. 60.5% comp %.
Rex - 591 yrds, 3 TD's and 3 INT's. 56.5 comp %.

Can you HONESTLY call that a "more impressive season"? Eli won the super bowl. Kind of a no brainer if you ask me.

 

[gorcorps]

This is the same Grossman that they put in BRIAN GRIESE for yes? When you decide that brian griese would be better than your starter then that means you have no faith in your starter. I can't believe they're having him stick around.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: gorcorps
This is the same Grossman that they put in BRIAN GRIESE for yes? When you decide that brian griese would be better than your starter then that means you have no faith in your starter. I can't believe they're having him stick around.

I think they could have easily gone out and gotten someone like a Billy Volek who would have been a better fit. It appears what they are doing is they plan on drafting someone and then moving them to starter as soon as Rex starts sucking. It should be about the halfway mark of the season.

They pick 14th this year. I'll go ahead and assume Matt Ryan and Brian Brohm are off the board. That gives them Chad Henne, John David Booty, Joe Flacco, Colt Brennan or Andre Woodson.

 

[lupi]

While all this Groosman love is spreading, also remember that some are wondering if any QB will be drafted in the first round this year.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: lupi
While all this Groosman love is spreading, also remember that some are wondering if any QB will be drafted in the first round this year.

Dolphins are considering Matt Ryan with the #1 pick (also Chris Long). I think Brian Brohm will go in the top 15 also.

Atlanta will most certainly draft a QB at #3.
Ravens at #8 like Brian Brohm if he drops that far.

There's no telling how it'll play out, but I can't see there NOT being a QB drafted in the first round. There's no way Matt Ryan doesn't get picked.

 

[zinfamous]

I lol'd when I saw that last night.