da Bears, 2006 NFC Champs - going to SUPERBOWL XLI, congrats!

[chrisms]

Seahawks will make a comeback. Somehow, somehow...

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: chrisms
Seahawks will make a comeback. Somehow, somehow...

2068, baby!!! Oh yeah!!

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: 3NF
The Bears are overrated. New Orleans is going to win.

The Bears at are home.

New Orleans's offense is NOT going to match up with the Bears' defense.

Speed doesn't work against the Bears' defense, just power and being able to push.

Perhpas you stopped watching football back in October?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: Fern
Well, the votibgs pretty close at this point 17 v 18 (NO's favor)

IDNK, too many variables - mainly Grossman and the weather.

Even though Grossman played OK today, the Bears barely pulled it out. And N.O. looked pretty strong last night.

Fern

Meh, I'm now thinking N.O. will win even though it's at Chicago.

I don't believe Rex G will have two decent, or even good games in a row. And AFAIK, Tommy Harris etc won't be playing.

Also, N.O. had a bye week and may not be as worn-out as the Bars, plus I feel Sean Payton is the better coach.

Fern

The Bears had a bye week too. Top seed ya know...

Ooops 😱

After watching this weekend, I'm no longer sure that the AFC is superior. Brady had 3 INTs, Peyton was just so-so.

I'm rooting for the Saints! And I think even though the Super Bowl won't be played it will give the city a boost if the Saints are in it. The bars and restaurants will be a hoppin taht much more, and anything to give the reidents a "moral" boost is a good thing.

Fern

Yeah, but those were AFC teams playing agasint AFC teams. Indy has the weakest D of all of them, and they still held off Baltimore (sure...the worst Offense to Franchise ever, but whatever)

New England will beat the Saints in the Superbowl

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: evilsaint
LMFAO at all you logic-devoid idiots claiming that Strength of Schedule has anything to do with a teams potential playoff performance. The Bears found ways to win over the course of the season, plain and simple, and they will continue to do so 😛

Approximately half their wins were domination or verging on it, and more than half of those wins were against top %50 or %75 teams *cough* Seahawks, Giants, Jets, Vikings, Rams *cough*.

And come on, when will you people STOP BASHING GROSSMAN!? For all purposes, he's still a rookie. This is his first full season, and his first season with more than THREE games played. I'd say he's done EXTREMELY well for a rookie QB, wouldn't you? I could go and find the stats of all the Hall of Fame QB's whom had worse stats their rookie years than Grossman's very solid showing (albeit inconsistent), but all I have to say is this : Grossman is back to being "Good Rex" or at least "Safe Rex", and that's not going to change.

Lasty, <3 to every single person in this thread so far that has mentioned playoff experience being key: Nawlins has NEVER been to an NFC Championship, let alone a Superbowl. Plus, they just barely eked out a win against the Eagles last week; that eliminates any validity of using the "Bears *almost* not winning against the Seahawks" argument, seeing as the Seahawks are without a doubt better than the Eagles right now.

Da Bearsss, 24-13.

You have a point about Grossman as a rookie, and a agree with you to a large point. However, no other rookie has been responsible for the worst QB rating in the history of the game (1.8), b/c no other QB has done that. He also put up a 3 or 4-something rating 2 weeks later.

What I don't trust about Grossman is that he doesn't have the attitude to win. He's a step above Eli in terms of personality, while he doesn't mope and whine like Eli, he just tends to shrug off and smirk about his sh1tty performances. What really speaks volumes to me is his performance against GB at the end of the year. They had Home field locked up; but that is still a seriously important game. No matter the situation outside the game, Chi-GB is important every year. If you can't get pumped up playing against your rival, for the one team that your fans demand you beat, then I can't imagine him getting pumped up for any other game. His explanation/apology for that performance was pretty half-assed too.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: evilsaint

Originally posted by: 3NF

Originally posted by: evilsaint

Originally posted by: 3NF

Originally posted by: cubby1223
This talk is almost as bad as the 2002 superbowl when many people jumped on the Patriots bandwagon just because their team name was the Patriots, and we all know because of what happen on 9/11/01, we needed all the patriotism we could get. It was so fitting that they beat the Rams that year. What were the Rams going to do for national morale?

A Saints victory is not going to rebuild any homes in NO, and it is not going to bring any lost jobs back into the city.

This game next week is going to be close, no one can declare a winner. I believe the Bears do have the edge being at home against a dome team. And if anyone wants to complain about strength of schedule, maybe if the Saints didn't lose to the Redskins, or twice to the Panthers. If they were to win those games, suddenly the NFC south is considered weak right along with the NFC north, and the Saints strength of schedule would be right down there with the Bears. But the fact is the Bears beat the opponents on their schedule and deserve home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

The fact is the Bears had the lowest strength of schedule last year, and 2nd lowest in 2007.

Doesn't matter. I think the Saints will win this one.

And what does that fact mean or prove? Nothing.

Are you an idiot? I already said it - it means that had an easy schedule.

No, I prefer to think i'm not an idiot. And what I was saying is that having an easy schedule shows nothing in the postseason! You can post all the standalone facts that you like, but they prove nothing.

Hell, the fact that their SoS was lower than most doesn't even bring into consideration that bad teams can and will play a few good games here and there, and a decent amount of the bad teams the Bears played over the course of the season happened to play good games against the Bears.

Arizona FTW!! One caveat here: you're ignoring the fact that the Bears won those games b/c of special teams and def scoring. It was Grossman that put them in trouble in the first place. At that point in the season, the bear's D was incredible. Now, they are a shadow of their earlier season counterparts. Injuries, personal/off-field problems have created some significant holes. ...If I remember correctly, The O didn't score a single point in that Arizona game....

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: evilsaint

Originally posted by: Captante

Originally posted by: evilsaint

Originally posted by: Captante

Originally posted by: evilsaint
LMFAO at all you logic-devoid idiots claiming that Strength of Schedule has anything to do with a teams potential playoff performance. The Bears found ways to win over the course of the season, plain and simple, and they will continue to do so 😛

Approximately half their wins were domination or verging on it, and more than half of those wins were against top %50 or %75 teams *cough* Seahawks, Giants, Jets, Vikings, Rams *cough*.

And come on, when will you people STOP BASHING GROSSMAN!? For all purposes, he's still a rookie. This is his first full season, and his first season with more than THREE games played. I'd say he's done EXTREMELY well for a rookie QB, wouldn't you? I could go and find the stats of all the Hall of Fame QB's whom had worse stats their rookie years than Grossman's very solid showing (albeit inconsistent), but all I have to say is this : Grossman is back to being "Good Rex" or at least "Safe Rex", and that's not going to change.

Lasty, <3 to every single person in this thread so far that has mentioned playoff experience being key: Nawlins has NEVER been to an NFC Championship, let alone a Superbowl. Plus, they just barely eked out a win against the Eagles last week; that eliminates any validity of using the "Bears *almost* not winning against the Seahawks" argument, seeing as the Seahawks are without a doubt better than the Eagles right now.

Da Bearsss, 24-13.

I only have 2 isssues with your comments... first I would take the Eagles over the Seahawks in a heartbeat & second, Grossman may be playing well for a rookie QB, but the fact remains that he didn't play well against the Seahawks "spit & a band-aid" secondary so I can't see him doing very well against the faster & healthier Saints even if they are used to a dome stadium.... below zero weather could be a factor in this, as could lack of playoff experience, but I don't think it'll be enough.

Again I wouldn't be shocked if the Bears win Sunday, but I'm sticking with the Saints & I'm not a fan of either team.

How can you say that Grossman didn't play well? 282 yards, an interception that wasn't his fault, one fumble that was, one great TD play, another play that would've been a touchdown if the receiver (Berrian) hadn't dropped it, and last but not least, no critical mistakes...

Not bad for a 'rookie' QB in an NFC divisional playoff game after spending a week mulling over how he got torn apart by his division rivals in a game that his team was heavily favored to win, not to mention having six weeks or more of sports writers all around the nation clamoring for his replacement with their 2nd stringer...

I'm saying he didn't play well because I watched the game... in fairness he played better then I expected him to, but thats not saying much.

Edit: Just out of curiousity... you a Chicago fan?

I started the "Official Seattle @ Chicago" thread a week early for discussion purposes, and to shush all the Grossman bashers 😉 I've been a Bears fan longer than i've been a Packers fan (don't ask...), and only shorter than i've been a Cubs fan (since birth :laugh: )

Heck, he played better than I thought he was going to also, but TBH, his performance seriously renders all "Grossman sucks" arguments moot and void, and there's no denying that.

I mean, yeah, he could have shredded their secondary even further during a regular season game (oh wait, he did 😛), but even Favre/Manning/Brady/Brees/etc couldn't really hope for a better game than what Grossman pulled off in a Divisional Playoff game on a day just above freezing, throwing through rain and sleet and wind, and with half the passes being thrown having been dropped by his receivers.

Bring out any serious, well thought out claims backed up by fact/situation stats about why the game he played was sub-par, and i'll honestly applaud you. By the de-facto standard of his past performances *cough* Carolina last year *cough*, and the tried and true standard of historical analogy, the game he played was a good one, win or loss.

The fact that Da Bearsss won only makes it sweeter.

*edit* Grammar, run-on sentences ftl.

I don't think anyone suggested that Grossman played terribly in the Sewattle game. Hell, he looked as good, if not better than any other QB in the playoffs so far (better than most, for sure). The problem with Grossman is that he has 2 faces. 280 yards, TD Int, Fum today; next week you could be facing 52 yards, 2 INT 1Fum.

The facts that back this up, my friend: the 2006 football season. Look over some tapes if you've forgotten already 😉

 

[honkee]

Im sorry guys but this is gonna be a one sided game.
New orleans will hang for the first half but thats about it.
Got crushed in Nba last night but this is the bet i will be making this weekend
Can u say free money?

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8013/waterliliesmf0.jpg

 

[honkee]

And if anyone in here is from chicago and are second guessing your own team, you need to run into oncoming traffic.
Im gettin my list ready of bandwagon jumpers on this forum.
I bet these are the same people that jocked the white sux when they won.

p.s.
white sux blow

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Ladies and Gentleman, there is a certain football team, from the city of big shoulders, which has carved out a special place in the pantheon of professional football greats. After this game, that team, which is known the world over as Da Bears, come February, will be hosting... scratch that... will be HOISTING a certain Super Bowl trophy over it?s collective head. 🙂

 

[Beelziboss]

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Ladies and Gentleman, there is a certain football team, from the city of big shoulders, which has carved out a special place in the pantheon of professional football greats. After this game, that team, which is known the world over as Da Bears, come February, will be hosting... scratch that... will be HOISTING a certain Super Bowl trophy over it?s collective head. 🙂

I think they will be Hoisting Rex Grossman's head instead when he costs them the game, either this weekend or actually in the Super Bowl. Either way..I think it will be tough for the Bears to win it all with Rex at the helm.

All the Saints have to do is pressure him and he will start falling apart. The Seahawks made the mistake of giving him time and that cost them.

 

[fierydemise]

NO without a doubt, I was unimpressed by the Bears against Seattle. I'm a Seattle fan and I expected Bears by 10 instead they won on a field goal in OT against a Seattle team that played anemically at best.

 

[cubby1223]

Even Colbert is against the Bears. 🙁

Oh well, let's get it on this Sunday!

 

[bersl2]

Originally posted by: cubby1223
Even Colbert is against the Bears. 🙁

Oh well, let's get it on this Sunday!

Just noticed---lol, with that kind of backing, how can we fail? 😛

Also, I want to correct something I said earlier. I had said that I didn't notice the Saints blitzing much against the Eagles. After looking at the replay (NFL Channel is surprisingly useful ATM), I noticed a lot more blitzing.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: Beelziboss

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Ladies and Gentleman, there is a certain football team, from the city of big shoulders, which has carved out a special place in the pantheon of professional football greats. After this game, that team, which is known the world over as Da Bears, come February, will be hosting... scratch that... will be HOISTING a certain Super Bowl trophy over it?s collective head. 🙂

I think they will be Hoisting Rex Grossman's head instead when he costs them the game, either this weekend or actually in the Super Bowl. Either way..I think it will be tough for the Bears to win it all with Rex at the helm.

All the Saints have to do is pressure him and he will start falling apart. The Seahawks made the mistake of giving him time and that cost them.

Nope, the seahwks gave him pressure, and this time, instead of lobbing the ball in the air, he held onto it or threw it away (or fumbled 🙂). If he continues to play conservative like that the bears will be fine.

this game will come down to turnovers, whomever has more will lose the game.

 

[evilsaint]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Beelziboss

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Ladies and Gentleman, there is a certain football team, from the city of big shoulders, which has carved out a special place in the pantheon of professional football greats. After this game, that team, which is known the world over as Da Bears, come February, will be hosting... scratch that... will be HOISTING a certain Super Bowl trophy over it?s collective head. 🙂

I think they will be Hoisting Rex Grossman's head instead when he costs them the game, either this weekend or actually in the Super Bowl. Either way..I think it will be tough for the Bears to win it all with Rex at the helm.

All the Saints have to do is pressure him and he will start falling apart. The Seahawks made the mistake of giving him time and that cost them.

Nope, the seahwks gave him pressure, and this time, instead of lobbing the ball in the air, he held onto it or threw it away (or fumbled 🙂). If he continues to play conservative like that the bears will be fine.

this game will come down to turnovers, whomever has more will lose the game.

QFFT! The Seahawks D-line was all over Grossman like flies on sh*t the entire game in a caluculated guess that he'd fumble or make stupid throws. It didn't work. He shredded thier horrible secondary anyways. Buh-bye.

You think the 'Aints can blitz well, let alone any better than Seattle? I haven't seen 'em do it all year; how are they gonna do it against their Bears front five?

 

[Uppsala9496]

I like how everyone is saying that Seattle was horrible, so the Bears should have beaten them by more.
Philly was pretty bad too.
Easterbrook summed it up best:
Trailing 27-21, Philadelphia faced third-and-1 on the New Orleans 4 at the start of the fourth quarter. The Eagles rushed for 6.2 yards per carry in this game: just run the ball and the first down is likely. Instead, the Eagles pass, loss of yardage, field goal and the visitors never penetrated New Orleans territory again. Just run the ball! Especially since in this situation, any result except a loss of yardage and a fourth-down run is a high percentage play, too.

You can overanalyze the crap out of both games and argue that both the Saints and Bears could have lost. Sunday's game is going to come down turnovers. If Grossman plays conservative and gets into an early rhythm, then the Bears win.

Bears 21
Saints 14

 

[evilsaint]

I love how the Saints still have %60 to %40 of the votes in the poll. Gonna be one empty wagon rollin' back south come 2 1/2 weeks when Da Bears are in the Super Bowl 😀

 

[Pr0d1gy]

That's called Andy Reid Syndrome upsala.

I have the Saints in this one by 7.

 

[Uppsala9496]

I know. I just thought it was a good, well articulated example of how close a game it was. No one has been talking about that; just how the Bears game was close which somehow infers they are going to lose this weekend.

Maybe I can get lucky and score free tickets to Sunday's game (got row 8, section 211 for nothing last Sunday).

 

[Beelziboss]

Originally posted by: evilsaint

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: Beelziboss

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Ladies and Gentleman, there is a certain football team, from the city of big shoulders, which has carved out a special place in the pantheon of professional football greats. After this game, that team, which is known the world over as Da Bears, come February, will be hosting... scratch that... will be HOISTING a certain Super Bowl trophy over it?s collective head. 🙂

I think they will be Hoisting Rex Grossman's head instead when he costs them the game, either this weekend or actually in the Super Bowl. Either way..I think it will be tough for the Bears to win it all with Rex at the helm.

All the Saints have to do is pressure him and he will start falling apart. The Seahawks made the mistake of giving him time and that cost them.

Nope, the seahwks gave him pressure, and this time, instead of lobbing the ball in the air, he held onto it or threw it away (or fumbled 🙂). If he continues to play conservative like that the bears will be fine.

this game will come down to turnovers, whomever has more will lose the game.

QFFT! The Seahawks D-line was all over Grossman like flies on sh*t the entire game in a caluculated guess that he'd fumble or make stupid throws. It didn't work. He shredded thier horrible secondary anyways. Buh-bye.

You think the 'Aints can blitz well, let alone any better than Seattle? I haven't seen 'em do it all year; how are they gonna do it against their Bears front five?

Most of the game that was the case. And Grossman threw alot of stupid passes that luckily for him fell harmlessly to the turf. The last drive or so the Bear O-line stiffened and/or Seattle brought less pressure..ex..the big 3rd and long play in OT that set up the GW filedgoal..Rex had all freaking day. Seattle only rushed 4 I believe on that play.

I mean we shall see. I think Grossman will have a very bad day, but you never know.

 

[waggy]

UNLESS they fix the defence and keep Grossman in check then the bears will not win.

Defence really needs to do something. the last 4 games really sucked. they can't seem to stop the run.


but it should be a good game.

 

[IHAVEAQUESTION]

C'mon, we all know New Orleans is going to win, they need something to cheer up the city after the Katrina. Just like how the New England won in 2001 to cheer up the american.

 

[cubby1223]

New discussion poll (we've exhausted the current shouting matches):

What if the Bears were all 14" tall, you know about so <----> high. What's the score of Sunday's game? Lovie, of course, will be full-size.

Da Bears

 

[bersl2]

Originally posted by: cubby1223
New discussion poll (we've exhausted the current shouting matches):

What if the Bears were all 14" tall, you know about so <----> high. What's the score of Sunday's game? Lovie, of course, will be full-size.

Da Bears

OK, then, what about Ditka vs. a hurricane?---but the hurricane's name is Katrina.