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Originally posted by: ElFenix
advanced amateur video solutions don't record in 5 minute bits either. this is a consumerific movie mode and it's a step in the right direction but color me underwhelmed. most people on their vacation would rather have AF than DoF control, and there is no reason they couldn't have allowed contrast detect AF in movie mode.
Nikon is targeting this movie mode as a creative tool. It's not for moms who want to record an hour-long school play.

Having DOF control is a creative tool.

I'll also point out that nearly every well produced video or movie I've seen does not have a single uninterrupted shot that goes for more than 5 minutes. Most shots are much, much shorter.
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Nikon is targeting this movie mode as a creative tool. It's not for moms who want to record an hour-long school play.

Having DOF control is a creative tool.

I'll also point out that nearly every well produced video or movie I've seen does not have a single uninterrupted shot that goes for more than 5 minutes. Most shots are much, much shorter.

i doubt that my V/PJ buddies are going to drop their sony HDV cams for this.

if it's a testbed for something later then i can see that. someone has to put their toe in the water first, after all.

for the average joe looking at a D90 at best buy, they're going to see that it takes movies, and then they're going to be disappointed when it doesn't focus, and they're going to return it and get a super zoom.
 

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I don't think anyone has any illusions about the D90 movie mode. It's the first, it's something, and future implementations will be a lot better and more full-featured. Kinda like Live View was (or still is).
 

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Originally posted by: Heidfirst
even ignoring the movie mode the D90 looks like a very solid mid-range camera.
Tbh I think that I'm more impressed with this than the 50D but of course we will have to wait for some (relatively) unbiased reviews showing IQ etc.

ISO 200 + Max. shutter speed of 1/4000 can't be considered as a "solid mid-range camera."



Originally posted by: jpeyton
Yep, even advanced amateur video solutions (e.g. Canon HDV camcorder + Brevis adapter) are manual focus only. Phase-detect AF during movies was out of the question; nobody wants to blank their video feed to AF. And contrast detect would be painfully slow.

Sony and Canon (and even Nikon) will come out with better implementations of DSLR movie mode. Who knows when or how.

You're right on the point.



Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Nikon is targeting this movie mode as a creative tool. It's not for moms who want to record an hour-long school play.

Having DOF control is a creative tool.

I'll also point out that nearly every well produced video or movie I've seen does not have a single uninterrupted shot that goes for more than 5 minutes. Most shots are much, much shorter.

i doubt that my V/PJ buddies are going to drop their sony HDV cams for this.

if it's a testbed for something later then i can see that. someone has to put their toe in the water first, after all.

for the average joe looking at a D90 at best buy, they're going to see that it takes movies, and then they're going to be disappointed when it doesn't focus, and they're going to return it and get a super zoom.


Uhh...D90 isn't there to replace V/PJs HDV cams. Nobody claims that. How did you come up with that idea?
Anyway, D90, even without the movie function, is a good mass consumer level DSLR. It's not like D90 is the only camera that doesn't offer AF in movie mode. In fact, it's THE only camera that has movie mode. It's a big plus. No AF in movie mode sure is a - but as it offers far more +, it's still big +.
 

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
ISO 200 + Max. shutter speed of 1/4000 can't be considered as a "solid mid-range camera."

The D90 has a different and less expensive mirror and shutter mechanism than the D300. It's a mid-range camera, and thus it has a 1/4000s fastest shutter speed. ISO100 is available at L1.0. If you're shooting wide-open in glaring sun, then you really need a 3-stop neutral-density filter, IMO.
 

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: jpeyton

I'll also point out that nearly every well produced video or movie I've seen does not have a single uninterrupted shot that goes for more than 5 minutes. Most shots are much, much shorter.

i doubt that my V/PJ buddies are going to drop their sony HDV cams for this.


Uhh...D90 isn't there to replace V/PJs HDV cams. Nobody claims that. How did you come up with that idea?
see what i bolded in jpeyton's post. maybe there are some deviant art types that will buy it for the dof control on such an inexpensive cam, but that's about it. everyone else will continue to use their big dedicated video cams. this certainly isn't replacing movie or tv cams.

Anyway, D90, even without the movie function, is a good mass consumer level DSLR. It's not like D90 is the only camera that doesn't offer AF in movie mode. In fact, it's THE only camera that has movie mode. It's a big plus. No AF in movie mode sure is a - but as it offers far more +, it's still big +.

there are tons of cameras that AF in movie mode. every consumer video cam AFs. every P&S you see AFs in movie mode. people are used to that. they'll want AF. they'll see movie mode on the D90, think, oh sweet, and then be disappointed when it can't AF. i'll bet that there are more returns of this camera due to the fact that it doesn't AF in movie mode than any other reason.
 

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True, it's not going to replace a VJ's HD camcorder because their job is to shoot video and record an event, not create a piece of art.

Not everyone wants a video recorder to create a piece of art, and I definitely wouldn't recommend the D90 to those people.

But using DOF is a powerful tool. Here is a good example of DOF effects using an HD camcorder and a Letus 35mm lens adapter paired with some primes (manual focus). He also explains the basics of DOF effects.

http://www.vimeo.com/909833
 

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Pogue's take: Check it out, people: the era of the video S.L.R. has begun.

By DAVID POGUE

If you saw it just sitting there, you?d never guess that the new Nikon D90 is a mind-blowing, game-changing camera.

It looks like any other big, black intermediate single-lens reflex camera: much more compact than a professional model, but much bigger and heavier than a pocket camera. An S.L.R. comes with a shoulder strap because it needs one.

What you get in return for looking like a tourist, of course, is the potential for absolutely stunning photos. Thanks to factors like high-quality, interchangeable lenses, a huge light sensor and high-speed circuitry that reduces shutter lag to zero, the pictures you get from an S.L.R. generally make pocket cameras? output look like amateur hour.

The new D90, which arrives in stores next month, happens to be a superb S.L.R. At $1,000 (or $1,300 with a new 18-105 millimeter, image-stabilized lens), it?s priced neatly between the D300 (Nikon?s bigger, heavier, all-metal professional model, $1,650 online) and the intermediate D80 ($720 online), which will soon be discontinued. (These last two are body-only prices; lenses are not included.)

The specs and features sit neatly between those cameras, too. The D90 has a 12.3-megapixel CMOS sensor that measures 1.14 inches diagonally (24 by 16 millimeters), a hair smaller than on professional cameras. At start-up (or on command), the D90 gives that sensor a little shudder to shake off dust that may have entered the camera during a lens change, in that way avoiding shadowy specks in the photos.

This camera is rocket-fast, too. Autofocus is nearly instantaneous, shutter lag (the delay after the button is pressed) is zero, and you can snap 4.5 photos a second for as long as you keep the button pressed.

There are some new features: a clever calendar that lets you hunt down photos by date, right on the camera; an effect that simulates the spherical view of a fish-eye lens; a jack for an external G.P.S. receiver that is coming from Nikon (for geotagging pictures); a function that straightens off-kilter horizons; face-recognition autofocus; and so on.

But none of that is the big news.

If you want a hint, consider the D90?s Live View feature, with which you can frame a photo using the extremely sharp three-inch screen.

This, of course, is how every compact camera on earth works, but until Olympus pioneered the system a couple of years ago, S.L.R.?s required you to compose a shot by pressing your eye to the optical viewfinder. The screen was used exclusively for playing back pictures.

The challenge, on an S.L.R., was figuring out what to do with the mirror inside. Ordinarily, it bounces light from the lens into the eyepiece; it flips out of the way, exposing the sensor, only at the instant a photo is taken. To display a live image on the screen, you?d have to lock that mirror out of the way, so that the sensor receives light continuously.

That?s exactly what happens when you press the Live View button on the D90. You hear a little clack ? that?s the mirror flipping aside ? and a live video image appears on the screen. Now you can shoot photos at angles where holding the camera to your head just wouldn?t work; it comes in handy more often than you might think. At this point, you can also zoom in to assure perfect focus.

There are compromises, though. When the mirror is out of the way, the D90 relies on a slower, contrast-detection autofocus system; it can sometimes take several seconds to lock focus in Live View mode.

But don?t knock Live View. It, after all, is the key to the breakthrough feature of the D90, the secret that turns it into a completely new kind of recording instrument. Ready?

The D90 is the first S.L.R. in the world that can record video.

High-definition video, at that. Stunning, vivid, 720p, widescreen, 1024-by-720, 24-frames-per-second video, with the color and clarity that only an S.L.R. can provide.

Evidently, it occurred to some engineer: ?Hey, we?re already showing a video image. Isn?t that, in essence, what Live View is? Maybe we could figure out a way to record it!?

Now, most people?s first reaction is: ?Well, duh. My $200 Canon has been capturing video for years.? Or maybe: ?What a gimmick. Who?d ever use video on a $1,000 piece of photographic equipment?? Or, at best: ?Well, I guess it might sometimes be useful to snag a video clip when I?m out there shooting stills.?

But there?s something much bigger going on here. Remember: any control, effect or lens that?s available to the D90?s still photos is now available for videos.

Think of all the freedom you gain that you wouldn?t generally have on a camcorder: control over focus, depth of field and exposure; special effects like fish-eye, monochrome and vivid; and excellent image stabilization when using a Nikon VR lens.

But here?s the real mind-blower: You now have a video camera that takes interchangeable lenses. Before the D90, if you wanted a hi-def video camera with removable lenses, you?d pay $7,000 for the camera alone, and another $7,000 to $20,000 for each lens.

On this camera, though, I tried Nikon?s $500 fish-eye lens, and filmed a complete 180-degree vista without having to turn or pan. With a macro lens, I filmed a bumblebee, huge and clear as though it were in a National Geographic documentary. With a huge telephoto lens, sitting in my bleachers seat at the Pilot Pen tennis tournament, I was suddenly filming what other people could capture only as still images. (You can see sample stills and videos at nytimes.com/personaltech.) Independent filmmakers, rejoice.

Meanwhile, the zoom ring gives you far more zooming control than a typical camcorder does. For example, you can do a snap zoom, from 1X to 10X, in half a second.

Now then, before you get on the D90 waiting list, a word of warning: it?s not a camcorder.

Its screen does not flip out and swivel, so you can?t easily film yourself. There?s a microphone and speaker, but the sound is mono. And the AVI-format video, while easily edited in programs like iMovie and Movie Maker, eats up an insane amount of memory-card space ? about 400 megabytes a minute. (Fortunately, the camera accommodates SD cards as big as they come ? 32 gigabytes, for example, which is good for 80 minutes of video.)

An individual shot can?t be longer than five minutes in hi-def, either, or 20 minutes in standard definition; after that, the sensor heats up too much. So don?t expect to film the school play on this thing.

Worst of all, the autofocus doesn?t work for video. You can autofocus before you start rolling (half-press the shutter button), or you can use the manual-focus ring while filming. But those are kludges; if the distance to the subject changes while you?re filming, moments of blurriness are inevitable.

In other words, the Nikon D90 presents benefits and drawbacks unlike any other category of image-recording equipment. On one hand, your creativity may be challenged by the lack of autofocus, the limited shot duration and the enormous file size.

On the other hand, the D90 brings you an incredible range of video image controls; interchangeable lenses at a fraction of the usual prices for video; a gigantic sensor that takes videos in lighting conditions that would render traditional camcorders useless; and the convenience of capturing short, sharp video clips without hauling around a second machine.

It?s pretty funny that it comes from Nikon, a company with practically no experience in video cameras ? and not, say, a camcorder/camera behemoth like Sony or Canon.

But who cares? Even with its 1.0 limitations, the D90 is an outstanding still camera and an eyebrow-raising video camera. Check it out, people: the era of the video S.L.R. has begun.
 

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees

ISO 200 + Max. shutter speed of 1/4000 can't be considered as a "solid mid-range camera."
I suppose it comes down to what you consider as mid-range but 1/4000 is shorter than I will ever use (& I mainly take shots of fast jets which are faster than virtually anything that any one else will be shooting). Admittedly the weather here doesn't tend to be as bright as summer in the US & I'm more likely to be increasing ISO than shortening shutter speed.
I mean seriously, what % of people need 1/8000 (& yes, I have it available on my body)?
Most people probably don't even need 1/2000 let alone 1/4000.

As for ISO 200, that's where that sensor performs best but you can go below that if you elect to (or of course bung a polariser or ND filter on).

 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Pogue's take: Check it out, people: the era of the video S.L.R. has begun.

By DAVID POGUE

If you saw it just sitting there, you?d never guess that the new Nikon D90 is a mind-blowing, game-changing camera.

It looks like any other big, black intermediate single-lens reflex camera: much more compact than a professional model, but much bigger and heavier than a pocket camera. An S.L.R. comes with a shoulder strap because it needs one.

What you get in return for looking like a tourist, of course, is the potential for absolutely stunning photos. Thanks to factors like high-quality, interchangeable lenses, a huge light sensor and high-speed circuitry that reduces shutter lag to zero, the pictures you get from an S.L.R. generally make pocket cameras? output look like amateur hour.

The new D90, which arrives in stores next month, happens to be a superb S.L.R. At $1,000 (or $1,300 with a new 18-105 millimeter, image-stabilized lens), it?s priced neatly between the D300 (Nikon?s bigger, heavier, all-metal professional model, $1,650 online) and the intermediate D80 ($720 online), which will soon be discontinued. (These last two are body-only prices; lenses are not included.)

The specs and features sit neatly between those cameras, too. The D90 has a 12.3-megapixel CMOS sensor that measures 1.14 inches diagonally (24 by 16 millimeters), a hair smaller than on professional cameras. At start-up (or on command), the D90 gives that sensor a little shudder to shake off dust that may have entered the camera during a lens change, in that way avoiding shadowy specks in the photos.

This camera is rocket-fast, too. Autofocus is nearly instantaneous, shutter lag (the delay after the button is pressed) is zero, and you can snap 4.5 photos a second for as long as you keep the button pressed.

There are some new features: a clever calendar that lets you hunt down photos by date, right on the camera; an effect that simulates the spherical view of a fish-eye lens; a jack for an external G.P.S. receiver that is coming from Nikon (for geotagging pictures); a function that straightens off-kilter horizons; face-recognition autofocus; and so on.

But none of that is the big news.

If you want a hint, consider the D90?s Live View feature, with which you can frame a photo using the extremely sharp three-inch screen.

This, of course, is how every compact camera on earth works, but until Olympus pioneered the system a couple of years ago, S.L.R.?s required you to compose a shot by pressing your eye to the optical viewfinder. The screen was used exclusively for playing back pictures.

The challenge, on an S.L.R., was figuring out what to do with the mirror inside. Ordinarily, it bounces light from the lens into the eyepiece; it flips out of the way, exposing the sensor, only at the instant a photo is taken. To display a live image on the screen, you?d have to lock that mirror out of the way, so that the sensor receives light continuously.

That?s exactly what happens when you press the Live View button on the D90. You hear a little clack ? that?s the mirror flipping aside ? and a live video image appears on the screen. Now you can shoot photos at angles where holding the camera to your head just wouldn?t work; it comes in handy more often than you might think. At this point, you can also zoom in to assure perfect focus.

There are compromises, though. When the mirror is out of the way, the D90 relies on a slower, contrast-detection autofocus system; it can sometimes take several seconds to lock focus in Live View mode.

But don?t knock Live View. It, after all, is the key to the breakthrough feature of the D90, the secret that turns it into a completely new kind of recording instrument. Ready?

The D90 is the first S.L.R. in the world that can record video.

High-definition video, at that. Stunning, vivid, 720p, widescreen, 1024-by-720, 24-frames-per-second video, with the color and clarity that only an S.L.R. can provide.

Evidently, it occurred to some engineer: ?Hey, we?re already showing a video image. Isn?t that, in essence, what Live View is? Maybe we could figure out a way to record it!?

Now, most people?s first reaction is: ?Well, duh. My $200 Canon has been capturing video for years.? Or maybe: ?What a gimmick. Who?d ever use video on a $1,000 piece of photographic equipment?? Or, at best: ?Well, I guess it might sometimes be useful to snag a video clip when I?m out there shooting stills.?

But there?s something much bigger going on here. Remember: any control, effect or lens that?s available to the D90?s still photos is now available for videos.

Think of all the freedom you gain that you wouldn?t generally have on a camcorder: control over focus, depth of field and exposure; special effects like fish-eye, monochrome and vivid; and excellent image stabilization when using a Nikon VR lens.

But here?s the real mind-blower: You now have a video camera that takes interchangeable lenses. Before the D90, if you wanted a hi-def video camera with removable lenses, you?d pay $7,000 for the camera alone, and another $7,000 to $20,000 for each lens.

On this camera, though, I tried Nikon?s $500 fish-eye lens, and filmed a complete 180-degree vista without having to turn or pan. With a macro lens, I filmed a bumblebee, huge and clear as though it were in a National Geographic documentary. With a huge telephoto lens, sitting in my bleachers seat at the Pilot Pen tennis tournament, I was suddenly filming what other people could capture only as still images. (You can see sample stills and videos at nytimes.com/personaltech.) Independent filmmakers, rejoice.

Meanwhile, the zoom ring gives you far more zooming control than a typical camcorder does. For example, you can do a snap zoom, from 1X to 10X, in half a second.

Now then, before you get on the D90 waiting list, a word of warning: it?s not a camcorder.

Its screen does not flip out and swivel, so you can?t easily film yourself. There?s a microphone and speaker, but the sound is mono. And the AVI-format video, while easily edited in programs like iMovie and Movie Maker, eats up an insane amount of memory-card space ? about 400 megabytes a minute. (Fortunately, the camera accommodates SD cards as big as they come ? 32 gigabytes, for example, which is good for 80 minutes of video.)

An individual shot can?t be longer than five minutes in hi-def, either, or 20 minutes in standard definition; after that, the sensor heats up too much. So don?t expect to film the school play on this thing.

Worst of all, the autofocus doesn?t work for video. You can autofocus before you start rolling (half-press the shutter button), or you can use the manual-focus ring while filming. But those are kludges; if the distance to the subject changes while you?re filming, moments of blurriness are inevitable.

In other words, the Nikon D90 presents benefits and drawbacks unlike any other category of image-recording equipment. On one hand, your creativity may be challenged by the lack of autofocus, the limited shot duration and the enormous file size.

On the other hand, the D90 brings you an incredible range of video image controls; interchangeable lenses at a fraction of the usual prices for video; a gigantic sensor that takes videos in lighting conditions that would render traditional camcorders useless; and the convenience of capturing short, sharp video clips without hauling around a second machine.

It?s pretty funny that it comes from Nikon, a company with practically no experience in video cameras ? and not, say, a camcorder/camera behemoth like Sony or Canon.

But who cares? Even with its 1.0 limitations, the D90 is an outstanding still camera and an eyebrow-raising video camera. Check it out, people: the era of the video S.L.R. has begun.

Interestingly, I think it makes sense Nikon was the first to make this feature. The other companies were thinking the opposite - let's never provide video features in our DSLR's, because we want the consumers to purchase our dedicated video cameras. Nikon might just force them to change their game a little bit.
 

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Originally posted by: Heidfirst
Originally posted by: Deadtrees

ISO 200 + Max. shutter speed of 1/4000 can't be considered as a "solid mid-range camera."
I suppose it comes down to what you consider as mid-range but 1/4000 is shorter than I will ever use (& I mainly take shots of fast jets which are faster than virtually anything that any one else will be shooting). Admittedly the weather here doesn't tend to be as bright as summer in the US & I'm more likely to be increasing ISO than shortening shutter speed.
I mean seriously, what % of people need 1/8000 (& yes, I have it available on my body)?
Most people probably don't even need 1/2000 let alone 1/4000.

As for ISO 200, that's where that sensor performs best but you can go below that if you elect to (or of course bung a polariser or ND filter on).

ISO200 f/4 in glaring sunlight usually hits a shutter speed between 1/4000 and 1/8000, in my experience. You get in those situations when shooting outdoor daytime sports with an exotic supertelephoto prime. I can't think of any other situations where you might need a shutter speed faster than 1/8000. If you have issues remember to change your ISO when going outside, then turn on AutoISO.

Really, what's with all the debate over the video feature? The D90 is a solid camera at the $1k price point, and then you get a limited movie capture ability as a free bonus.
 

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As a photojournalist, I can say that this innovation will be a devil and a saint at the same time. On one hand, we can grab video for use on the web without having to bring a bulky camera or another journalist. On the flipside, it's just one more damn thing that I've got to cut and edit in the newsroom.
 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
no autofocus in movie mode :thumbsdown:

i guess we'll have to wait for olympus to get it right.

their R&D fund should be running dry by now as they are concentrating on the Micro-4/3 thing.
 

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Originally posted by: angry hampster
On the flipside, it's just one more damn thing that I've got to cut and edit in the newsroom.

um, you still have to cut and edit a movie if you really need to shoot a movie. It's like complaining about pumping gas into your 2nd car.
 

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Originally posted by: fanerman91
I didn't expect autofocus. In no way do I consider lack of autofocus a deal-breaker.

Well, since small DOF is a main reason to like the movie mode I'd think that manual focus would be what you'd prefer, right?
 

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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: ElFenix
no autofocus in movie mode :thumbsdown:

i guess we'll have to wait for olympus to get it right.

their R&D fund should be running dry by now as they are concentrating on the Micro-4/3 thing.

panasonic is one of the largest companies in japan, and i'm almost certain they're the driving force behind m4/3. not much chance of r&d funding running dry there.
 

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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: ElFenix
no autofocus in movie mode :thumbsdown:

i guess we'll have to wait for olympus to get it right.

their R&D fund should be running dry by now as they are concentrating on the Micro-4/3 thing.

panasonic is one of the largest companies in japan, and i'm almost certain they're the driving force behind m4/3. not much chance of r&d funding running dry there.

well, don't forget the marketing effort to support the launch of M 4/3, and if they got it right, a 4/3 WITH video mode. imo that's seems like too much stuff going on for Oly.

Oly better get it quick, otherwise I am very tempted to jump ship and abroad the Nikon D90 cruise.
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: angry hampster
As a photojournalist, I can say that this innovation will be a devil and a saint at the same time. On one hand, we can grab video for use on the web without having to bring a bulky camera or another journalist. On the flipside, it's just one more damn thing that I've got to cut and edit in the newsroom.

I imagine it will get quite a bit of use professionally, the video feature. You could actually make a commercial with this thing, a news photographer could grab decent quality video on the fly. It's making me wonder in choosing my first DSLR.

Um, what is M 4/3? Ah, I guess it's a new type of digital camera. Olympus / Panasonic announce Micro Four Thirds
 

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Movies on a dSLR doesn't interest me in the least.

If they could expand to real recording times like 60 or 90 minutes, at high quality, I'd totally be in for one. Current hi-def handhelds wouldn't even be a consideration at that price range, especially when you factor in the creative freedom of swapping out lenses for zoom, fisheye, DOF, etc...

...they'll need to beef up the processing to use h.264...and of course storage will need to continue to grow, but still...I can't wait.
 

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: OdiN
Movies on a dSLR doesn't interest me in the least.
If they could expand to real recording times like 60 or 90 minutes
If you're making clips over 5-minutes in length, chances are you're documenting something (like a school play, or a baseball game) and thus don't really need the DOF or creative control of D-movie. Just use a camcorder.
 

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5 minute limit is due to EU taxes. i posted about them a while back. thank you irrational tax policies.
 

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5 minute limit is due to EU taxes. i posted about them a while back. thank you irrational tax policies.

That's why I firt thought as I've heard about EU trying to tax digital cameras that can record video. However, as said in below link, I guess it's not. Do you have more/different information regarding this? I think there might be more information than I found.

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digita...029429,49291733,00.htm
"The EC's Nomenclature Committee (oh, to be a fly on that wall) has cottoned on to this and wants to slap a tax on cameras that can record at least 30 minutes of video in one go, with a resolution of 800x600 pixels or higher at 23 frames per second or higher. The Nomenclature Committee has recommended the proposal (boo!) but has not, as yet, garnered the required majority vote"


 

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I thought someone said the 5 minute limit was because of overheating the sensor for longer recording.