D&D 4th Edition Announced

[Bateluer]

Not exactly sure how it differs from 3e yet though. Or even if this is the proper forum for a thread about table top rules. However, given the freedom that table top RPGs typically provide, and given the increased freedom that PC games offer over console games, there is precedence to post here.

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They've several videos about it on the WotC site.

From the Wiki:

"Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition, announced at GenCon in August 2007, is set to be published in May of 2008. Wizards of the Coast announced that the new edition will provide character levels going up to 30th, better-defined character roles, simplified game mastering and expanded online content. There are also plans to support playing the game over the internet.[102][103][104] Slashdot.org reported that anecdotal evidence indicated "anger" from some players and retailers due to the financial investment in the 3.5 edition and the relatively brief period of time that it had been in publication"

I can see how people would be irritated after buying all the 3.5e books. Those rulebooks aren't cheap, often carrying 40 USD price tags.

 

[Tencntraze]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
I can see how people would be irritated after buying all the 3.5e books. Those rulebooks aren't cheap, often carrying 40 USD price tags.

I'll preface my statements by saying that I'm not a tabletop gamer, but play the corresponding video games.

Players getting irritated at new versions of a product coming out after spending a lot of money investing in a particular version in a scenario like this don't get my sympathy; it's akin to someone complaining that the $500 CPU they bought 6 months ago is now being trumped by a newer $300 CPU. There is nothing *forcing* these people to upgrade to the newer rules, and I even remember reading about a bunch of people that still play with the 2nd Edition rules.

Now from a retailer standpoint, I can see why this would be more of an issue, since you would now have a sunk cost in all of the 3.5 stuff that you've bought. On the other hand, retailers have 10 months to get rid of current inventory before the new stuff comes out, so it's not like they're exactly being screwed here.

 

[Bateluer]

It wouldn't be an issue at all if they priced the rulebooks cheaper, say 15 to 20 USD per book instead of the 40.

 

[lupi]

I haven't really read the books since 2.0; and when I did try to read through the D&DO char setup with v3 rules there was a bit of unfamiliar stuff.

If they could get it so the system could be played online, well that would be rather cool and sorta what I had wanted NWN to be.

 

[waggy]

last series i got was 2. heard 3 was ok but had some problems . surprised they are at 4 so darn fast.


i would love to get a AD&D series going. i enjoyed playing

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Well, 2->3 they consolodated everything into d20... 3->4 everythings 100 sided die!

 

[SunnyD]

Heh... hahaha... HAHAHAHAH!!!!

Tabletop Gaming gone the way of MMO's... D&D 4th Edition... I suppose it's only fitting that this "expansion" raises the "level caps". Now I'm going to have to be pissed off that my +2 Sword of Giantslaying is the equivalent of a green con item now... DAMNIT!!!

ROFL!!!

 

[natep]

yeah, there is no way my group would buy that.

 

[Skott]

At $40 per book is why many people either wont buy it or just wait for the info to hit the Net (which it will) and just copy it for free(which I dont condone). Its almost becoming like the gaming strategy guides and walk-throughs. Its cheaper to get the info off the net now than buying a book. Not to mention more accurate. I think they need to rethink distribution and pricing.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Skott
At $40 per book is why many people either wont buy it or just wait for the info to hit the Net (which it will) and just copy it for free(which I dont condone). Its almost becoming like the gaming strategy guides and walk-throughs. Its cheaper to get the info off the net now than buying a book. Not to mention more accurate. I think they need to rethink distribution and pricing.

pricing is insane. $40 for a book? i will wait until i can pick them up at a garage sale for $5 heh

 

[Skott]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Skott
At $40 per book is why many people either wont buy it or just wait for the info to hit the Net (which it will) and just copy it for free(which I dont condone). Its almost becoming like the gaming strategy guides and walk-throughs. Its cheaper to get the info off the net now than buying a book. Not to mention more accurate. I think they need to rethink distribution and pricing.

pricing is insane. $40 for a book? i will wait until i can pick them up at a garage sale for $5 heh

Well, Bateluer said $40 so I'm just going from what he said. I have no idea what they cost now but he'd probably knows better than I.

 

[natep]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Skott
At $40 per book is why many people either wont buy it or just wait for the info to hit the Net (which it will) and just copy it for free(which I dont condone). Its almost becoming like the gaming strategy guides and walk-throughs. Its cheaper to get the info off the net now than buying a book. Not to mention more accurate. I think they need to rethink distribution and pricing.

pricing is insane. $40 for a book? i will wait until i can pick them up at a garage sale for $5 heh

I think the 3 core books of 3.5 edition are $35-40 retail. They're all nice hardcover books, and you really only need 1 of them if you just play and don't DM. All the other supplements are usually $20+, and a lot cheaper if you order them online.

 

[shortylickens]

Books are not computers. No one needs to "upgrade" to new versions.
The old books play just fine. This is not anything to be concerned with.

Am ashamed to admit I have played it for a while. Was actually quite happy with the Rules Cyclopedia (which can be considered D&D 2nd edition if you really want).
The only reason I got into 3.5 edition was I had long since sold all my old books and wanted to play what everyone else was into. That they had made major improvements in a short time but still kept the same system (3rd to 3.5 edition) convinced me they were serious about keeping the game around and encouraged me to get into it.

I wont be buying any new rulebooks and sourcebooks for the old stuff will just get cheaper now. This is a win situation for me.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: natep

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Skott
At $40 per book is why many people either wont buy it or just wait for the info to hit the Net (which it will) and just copy it for free(which I dont condone). Its almost becoming like the gaming strategy guides and walk-throughs. Its cheaper to get the info off the net now than buying a book. Not to mention more accurate. I think they need to rethink distribution and pricing.

pricing is insane. $40 for a book? i will wait until i can pick them up at a garage sale for $5 heh

I think the 3 core books of 3.5 edition are $35-40 retail. They're all nice hardcover books, and you really only need 1 of them if you just play and don't DM. All the other supplements are usually $20+, and a lot cheaper if you order them online.

Yeah, just the core rule books are 40 dollars. And yes, they are nice hard cover books with usually very pretty full artwork.

The other books are usually around 20 dollars, but are paperback books and usually black and white, debatable that they are worth 20 dollars.