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I often come to PN first thing to check out the political news. Sometimes people post things I might be unlikely to trip over. Sometimes people have good points.

Lately I have been irritated by the lack of critical thinking. Content is seriously lacking, and it's time to go if not forever, then for a while.

Adios!
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I often come to PN first thing to check out the political news. Sometimes people post things I might be unlikely to trip over. Sometimes people have good points.

Lately I have been irritated by the lack of critical thinking. Content is seriously lacking, and it's time to go if not forever, then for a while.

Adios!

See ya

Drop by my Blog sometime

 

polm

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I often come to PN first thing to check out the political news. Sometimes people post things I might be unlikely to trip over. Sometimes people have good points.

Lately I have been irritated by the lack of critical thinking. Content is seriously lacking, and it's time to go if not forever, then for a while.

Adios!


The problem, as I see it, is not that you come here, but that you come here "first to check out the political news" . Why not try taking advantage of ATP&N as a place to converse about politics and news after you have done some legit research on a topic.

I guess if it leaving in a "cold turkey" fashion is the only way you can break yourself from an obviosuly bad habit, then by all means.
 

BBond

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America has lacked content since January 20, 2001 and hasn't thought critically since September 11, 2001.

Should we all leave?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: polm
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I often come to PN first thing to check out the political news. Sometimes people post things I might be unlikely to trip over. Sometimes people have good points.

Lately I have been irritated by the lack of critical thinking. Content is seriously lacking, and it's time to go if not forever, then for a while.

Adios!


The problem, as I see it, is not that you come here, but that you come here "first to check out the political news" . Why not try taking advantage of ATP&N as a place to converse about politics and news after you have done some legit research on a topic.

I guess if it leaving in a "cold turkey" fashion is the only way you can break yourself from an obviosuly bad habit, then by all means.

And I have participated. When I say I come on to check out the news, it's in the morning before work, when I check out weather etc. I usually give more thoughtful responses later in the day. The hostility factor here (inherent to some degree in political discourse) simply is tiring. If it ever becomes a more civil place I will probably come back, but that remains to be seen.
 

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Bummer, I like your posts, some of the best here that I lurk on. Well, go cook some ribs or somethin' :D
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Bummer, I like your posts, some of the best here that I lurk on. Well, go cook some ribs or somethin' :D

Dude! I have perfected ribs! We need a cooking sticky or something :D

I'll PM the secret this weekend if you like.
 

syzygy

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Originally posted by: BBond
America has lacked content since January 20, 2001 and hasn't thought critically since September 11, 2001.

Should we all leave?

hordes of your kind have already fled to canada. why not look into antartica ? open
country, baby. buy enough land and you can build yourself a pool and invite some
penguins over for the critical content you so desire.
 

CaptnKirk

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I find that anytime someome tries to start an inteligent discussion you get the thread-crappers trying to divert the content,
or the 'rips' just attempting to take it over - without any real thought, or the personal attackers because they're really that dense.

I'm to a point where if the thread is a 'rip-original' I pass it by - not interested in his trolling.
Unfortunately he get's into other people's threads with his bullshit and ruins those too.
Once he comes in and spews his drivel, I usually won't return to that lost thread, and I sure as hell will not respond to him any further -
it's like trying to reason with a grapefruit.

I still review things & start threads to probe the 'though-o-sphere' - but I'm finding a serious lack of intelligent life on this planet.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: syzygy
Originally posted by: BBond
America has lacked content since January 20, 2001 and hasn't thought critically since September 11, 2001.

Should we all leave?

hordes of your kind have already fled to canada. why not look into antartica ? open
country, baby. buy enough land and you can build yourself a pool and invite some
penguins over for the critical content you so desire.


I appreciate this post, seriously. It is a shining example of what makes this particular forum what it is today.

 

Czar

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Totaly understand you

I just find it too hard to leave this place :p so instead of leaving I just post alot less because frankly there isnt much point in arguing with most people here because very very seldom are people open to ideas/information that could change their opinion
 

CaptnKirk

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I appreciate this post, seriously. It is a shining example of what makes this particular forum what it is today

It's like a shining window into the void of darkness that some people really are.
 

syzygy

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: syzygy
Originally posted by: BBond
America has lacked content since January 20, 2001 and hasn't thought critically since September 11, 2001.

Should we all leave?

hordes of your kind have already fled to canada. why not look into antartica ? open
country, baby. buy enough land and you can build yourself a pool and invite some
penguins over for the critical content you so desire.


I appreciate this post, seriously. It is a shining example of what makes this particular forum what it is today.

you found everything wonderful with the assinine observation made by your ideological
kin, but my retort, which at the least is based on some fact, caused you untold discomfort.
pity you don't have the spine to just stay away. but even as tease you retain your liberal nature. now that is a thorough infestation.
 

syzygy

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Originally posted by: Czar
syzygy,
dont go overboard

i didn't mean to point out his ridiculous inconsistencies :roll: i mean i wouldn't have
expected it from him, of all people, to be so. . . . uh . .. . unbiased, hypocritical, and
pointless.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: syzygy
Originally posted by: Czar
syzygy,
dont go overboard

i didn't mean to point out his ridiculous inconsistencies :roll: i mean i wouldn't have
expected it from him, of all people, to be so. . . . uh . .. . unbiased, hypocritical, and
pointless.
like Winston pointed out this is exactly what is wrong with this forum, this bickering over differences and attack of character
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: syzygy
Originally posted by: BBond
America has lacked content since January 20, 2001 and hasn't thought critically since September 11, 2001.

Should we all leave?

hordes of your kind have already fled to canada. why not look into antartica ? open
country, baby. buy enough land and you can build yourself a pool and invite some
penguins over for the critical content you so desire.
So long as your kind wants me to leave, I'm staying right here at home.

I am of the belief that those people who suggest others leave are themselves the best candidates for relocation.

;)
 

Stunt

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Come on people, don't jump ship due to a couple of idiots...
Leaving is just giving in, far more appreciate your posts than you may think
 

judasmachine

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Have fun Winston, there is a whole other world out there, generally filled with good people.

As for the rest of this thread, it's illustrating why you're leaving.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Come on people, don't jump ship due to a couple of idiots...
Leaving is just giving in, far more appreciate your posts than you may think

Just shows how the Americans have no spine anymore Stunt eh?

Truest definition of Sheeple.


 

BBond

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Prediction:
When the fit hits the shan everyone will be right back here as usual.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Stunt
Come on people, don't jump ship due to a couple of idiots...
Leaving is just giving in, far more appreciate your posts than you may think

Just shows how the Americans have no spine anymore Stunt eh?

Truest definition of Sheeple.
I think we are losing some great forum members and for people to use this as an opportunity to get their last few shots in, whether it be directed at CW, WS or americans is dispicable.

Personally i think the forums will not be complete without these bright and intelligent minds. We should be taking this time to reflect why they are leaving rather than look at it on an individual level.

I have watched these forums run rampant with ignorant loudmouths with no intention of discussing but to get their daily fill of arguing/forum bashing. I have to agree with the underlying principles of these departures, however i don't really support the result.

CW has notified me of a new forum...I hope WS will make a presence there as well.
I look forward to stimulating conversations in the future with these very members.

PS these members are definately not sheep.
I don't know how anyone could come to this conclusion.
I DARE you to categorize these two people in any mainstream 'follow the masses' mindset.
 

CaptnKirk

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I have watched these forums run rampant with ignorant loudmouths with no intention of discussing but to get their daily fill of arguing/forum bashing. I have to agree with the underlying principles of these departures, however i don't really support the result

GOP sponsered tactic of shout-down your opposition, deflect the conversation, and bury everone in bullshit.
 

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
I have watched these forums run rampant with ignorant loudmouths with no intention of discussing but to get their daily fill of arguing/forum bashing. I have to agree with the underlying principles of these departures, however i don't really support the result

GOP sponsered tactic of shout-down your opposition, deflect the conversation, and bury everone in bullshit.

General attitude of brainwashing and unwillingness to accept critism of those beliefs/ideals, no matter what side of the fence you are on.
Many are not willing to look for any compremise or way out of the quagmire that they are in, prefering to just point a finger without coming up with workable solutions.

Attitude is my way or the highway.