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you're basically paying for a very ugly looking case with bare minimum parts. even the cpu is questionable (754).
although the 3700 should perform well, there is no headroom for future upgrades. but then again by the time you need a new cpu you can probably buy a whole new build. it's still a waste of money to buy low quality parts.
I dont think theres anything "wrong" with the 754. It's a pretty sophisticated piece of technology in its own right.
But then there is the 939. Yes, that number is higher, and we all know higher number = more powerful rite?
But then there is the 939. Yes, that number is higher, and we all know higher number = more powerful rite?
although there's nothing wrong with 754, its already outdated. most of the time a higher model number would identify the superiority of a unit from it's predecessor, but in some cases something like the difference a gefore 4 ti 4600 (performed better than the 5200 and 5600 at it's time) and 4800 would be marginal, the 4800 was supposedly an 8x agp version of the 4400. and then theres the 9500 pro vs the 9600 pro, in which case the 9500 won or tied a lot of the 9600's.
I'd shy away from buying any 754 system at this point, unless budget is taking priority over all other things (in which case get a sempron instead of a 3700+ Athlon64), and not just because ((754 < 939) == true). Socket 754 has very little upgrade potential in the future, and is not likely to ever see dual-core support or anything faster than that 3700+ (except for that modile Athlon64 4000+ I think, but that's a special case). A socket 939 board with a single core Athlon64 can still be ridden through at least one more major upgrade cycle (and possibly more, depending on how well socket M2 takes off), the socket 754 cannot. Aside from this, the 754 only integrates one internal memory controller, and can only support single-channel memory, which causes a performance hit. The socket 939 integrates two such controllers (the second controller being what accounts for most of the extra pins) and can run the memory in dual-channel mode, which is always preferable.
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From looking at benchmarks in the past, 754 rated at a certain speed can be faster at some things than a 939 rated at the same speed.
If you want to upgrade in the future, just sell the motherboard and CPU as a combo to someone.
I don't see the big deal of going 939 vs 754.
If you want to upgrade in the future, just sell the motherboard and CPU as a combo to someone.
I don't see the big deal of going 939 vs 754.
754 isnt out yet. of course, its going out, but you can get boards that run pci -e with the socket 754. dont count it out.
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To bad on the reseller ratings.
Going back to the 754 vs 939 issue, anybody that thinks that 754 is dumb because you can't upgrade your processor, look at all these "build me a new system" / "upgrade my system" threads and look how many people end up keeping their current motherboards when they upgrade.
I guess it all depends on how often you upgrade, but from a recent poll I think 3 years was pretty average for a major system overhall. At that point you're most likely going to want a new motherboard anyway.
Something like this from a reputable place would make a great mom/dad type comptuer where they're not going to want to upgrade until the thing barely runs anymore.
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I upgrade often but it's normally video, ram, hd, soundcard not cpu/mb.
Mom/dad system... I'm thinking about upgrading from my Dell 3.4ghz rig, adding a gig of ram, 9800pro, sound card and calling it good for a couple of years, the only "game" I play is NR2003.
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I've bought my last 5 PC's from cyberpower so they're reputable. Their customer service is annoying but they send out good stuff. I just received the system in my sig on Friday from them.
I think that its not a bad deal for the money. First issue is the small memory, 256meg, with upto 64meg gone for the video you need more. Don't have an issue with the case, if you like that sort of stuff, I'd hide the thing under a desk or table. I would not chose the Semperon over this rig, 754 maybe on the way but, unless you just like to freak with PC's the reality is that when you are out of CPU power, you are usually out of something else and the entire system needs replacing. Too much money is spent with too little performance gains on upgrades which don't show too much real world improvements.
I've gotta agree with YOyoYOhowsDAjello. I've been building my own systems for around 10 years now and I can't remember every upgrading the processor and keeping the motherboard. I usually upgraded every year or 2 but I always ended up upgrading the motherboard and usually the memory at the same time as the processor. Yeah I could have stuck a faster processor in my current board many times but I wouldn't have gotten all the new features that a total upgrade got. FSB, new memory speeds and types, new slots, agp and now pci e. Things are always progressing forward.
S939 does have more room for upgrade but the m2 ddr2 versions are suppose to be coming out q1 next year. I'm sure the 939 isn't going to be isntantly discontinued at that point but it's replacement has been announced and is on the horizon.
S939 does have more room for upgrade but the m2 ddr2 versions are suppose to be coming out q1 next year. I'm sure the 939 isn't going to be isntantly discontinued at that point but it's replacement has been announced and is on the horizon.
very nice for the price but it's 754. you'll need to upgrade it within a month but good until then. liquid cooling's cheap too...$80
Get real, if someone is buying a $335 computer why would they be thinking about processor upgrades?
This system does not include a "low quality" processor. You said yourself it will perform well. Just because you upgrade your CPU every year doesn't mean that's what everyone else will do.
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