Cyberhome DVD player *progressive scan* 69.99 bb

[beerbong]

i just got back from best buy. Cyberhome dv500 costs 79.99+tax or you can order off website. You can upgrade the firmware, it plays vcd/svcd/mp3 it has played everything ive thrown at it. It was all tested with fuji cd-r's though. great deal on progressive scan player that also plays dvd-audio. but i cant test those featrures.


also available at www.googlegear.com and www.amazon.com



DV500

best buy link

beer

 

[Hork]

This is a pretty good deal for a progressive scan DVD player, isn't it? Does anyone have any reviews of this?

Hork

 

[beerbong]

i think its a great price...i found posting at www.nerdout.com
http://www.nerd-out.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23804&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

but people are saying svcd's dont play well. i dont get it, they must not of upgraded the firmware...svcd's are playing just fine, no troubles..ill burn some more and test them.
beer

 

[MSantiago]

Obligatory VCDHelp.com review link.

 

[EvilHomer]

I believe this is the one that is going to be $39.99 on black friday at best buy ...I just went out and bought it today just in case they sold out on friday ...

look for the Black friday at best buy thread ..

AL

 

[beerbong]

i looked through the best buy thread did not see any mention of this player..there was mention of a different brand of dvd player i think. unless i missed it.
beer

 

[DaiShan]

The one on sale friday is the cyberhome 402 not 500, I saw the 500 at BB today for 79.99 as well.

 

[trikster2]

Originally posted by: beerbong
i just got back from best buy. Cyberhome dv500 costs 79.99+tax or you can order off website. You can upgrade the firmware, it plays vcd/svcd/mp3 it has played everything ive thrown at it. It was all tested with fuji cd-r's though. great deal on progressive scan player that also plays dvd-audio. but i cant test those featrures.

best buy link

beer

Wow.

I normaly don't go for no-name brands but $80 SHIPPED????

I'm buying DVD players for all my sisters the xmas and have not seen anything in this ball park for progressive scan.

I've read up on it and progressive scan looks great (60FPS and no interlacing). And no you don't need an HDTV for it to work, just component inputs which I've seen on 32" t.v.s costing under $350

What really has me interested in this though (even though it IS a no-name brand) is that it has JPG playback.

Any other players with this feature in this price range from a major manufacturer? I sure can't find any.

Basicaly if I give this to my sister/folks I can send them a CD-R of all my digital camera pics and, using a nice directory browser, the Cyberhome will do video slide shows.

Great for families without computers (yes they do exist).

Anyone using this feature? Does it work as advertised?

 

[tji]

There are two types of component inputs..

Standard interlaced component ( YCrCb ) and Progressive Component ( YPrPb )

To support progressive scan 480p, or HDTV resolutions: 720p or 1080i, you need the Progressive Component inputs.

The interlaced component inputs will look much better than composite or S-Video. But, they will not support progressive scan. The TV has to have progressive capability for this to be useful.

If you have a TV with 480P or better capabilities, you should definitely get a good progressive DVD player; but to really see the potential of that TV, get an HDTV receiver. At 1920x1080 or 1280x720 resolutions, it blows away even the best DVD's.

Originally posted by: trikster2

I've read up on it and progressive scan looks great (60FPS and no interlacing). And no you don't need an HDTV for it to work, just component inputs which I've seen on 32" t.v.s costing under $350

 

[Incredulous]

I've had this player for about 2 weeks and just thought I'd share my experience with it. Definitely flimsy quality, especially the tray and jog dial, but what one would expect for the price. The search (forward/reverse) functionality is rather annoying because one has to hit forward or reverse to activate the feature and then a second time for 2X speed. Not a design choice I'm fond of. My biggest complaint is the player's instability (in regards to CD playback as I haven't pushed many DVDs through it). It sometimes locks up in the middle of a song or refuses to start a new track. Mind you, this is on a perfect CD with no scratches.

You do get a lot of features for the price, for sure, but be aware there are some trade-offs. Personally, I can't live with the lock-ups, so I'm taking it back.

 

[tvarad]

I bought this player a couple of weeks ago and tested it with one DVD - Batman and Robin which I use as a reference DVD to make it easier to test between various players/modes. I was impressed with the picture quality in Progressive Scan mode on my HDTV ready RPTV. It can be made region free. Didn't test any other features. One thing going for it is that it can be played at 230V too so it's good for anyone considering using it in a country with that standard given that you can output PAL too.

 

[mboy]

Originally posted by: trikster2

Originally posted by: beerbong
i just got back from best buy. Cyberhome dv500 costs 79.99+tax or you can order off website. You can upgrade the firmware, it plays vcd/svcd/mp3 it has played everything ive thrown at it. It was all tested with fuji cd-r's though. great deal on progressive scan player that also plays dvd-audio. but i cant test those featrures.

best buy link

beer Wow.

I normaly don't go for no-name brands but $80 SHIPPED????

I'm buying DVD players for all my sisters the xmas and have not seen anything in this ball park for progressive scan.

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I've read up on it and progressive scan looks great (60FPS and no interlacing). And no you don't need an HDTV for it to work, just component inputs which I've seen on 32" t.v.s costing under $350

What really has me interested in this though (even though it IS a no-name brand) is that it has JPG playback.

Any other players with this feature in this price range from a major manufacturer? I sure can't find any.

Basicaly if I give this to my sister/folks I can send them a CD-R of all my digital camera pics and, using a nice directory browser, the Cyberhome will do video slide shows.

Great for families without computers (yes they do exist).

Anyone using this feature? Does it work as advertised?

U without a doubt need an HDTV capable TV or at the very least, one of the older Digital Tv's that is able to display a 480P television (called EDTv, only few manufacturers made them).

You will be very very unhappy if you select Progressive scan and whatch it thru a non progressive capable TV. You can, however ( I would imagine) switch it t interlaced and use it that way thru 480 interlaced component inputs.

 

[trikster2]

Originally posted by: mboy

Originally posted by: trikster2

Originally posted by: beerbong
i just got back from best buy. Cyberhome dv500 costs 79.99+tax or you can order off website. You can upgrade the firmware, it plays vcd/svcd/mp3 it has played everything ive thrown at it. It was all tested with fuji cd-r's though. great deal on progressive scan player that also plays dvd-audio. but i cant test those featrures.

best buy link

beer Wow.

I normaly don't go for no-name brands but $80 SHIPPED????

I'm buying DVD players for all my sisters the xmas and have not seen anything in this ball park for progressive scan.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I've read up on it and progressive scan looks great (60FPS and no interlacing). And no you don't need an HDTV for it to work, just component inputs which I've seen on 32" t.v.s costing under $350

What really has me interested in this though (even though it IS a no-name brand) is that it has JPG playback.

Any other players with this feature in this price range from a major manufacturer? I sure can't find any.

Basicaly if I give this to my sister/folks I can send them a CD-R of all my digital camera pics and, using a nice directory browser, the Cyberhome will do video slide shows.

Great for families without computers (yes they do exist).

Anyone using this feature? Does it work as advertised?

U without a doubt need an HDTV capable TV or at the very least, one of the older Digital Tv's that is able to display a 480P television (called EDTv, only few manufacturers made them).

You will be very very unhappy if you select Progressive scan and whatch it thru a non progressive capable TV. You can, however ( I would imagine) switch it t interlaced and use it that way thru 480 interlaced component inputs.

I will be very unhappy with a $80 DVD player to go with my $340 32 inch TV?

You can not even imagine how low my standards are!

According to the panasonic web page on progressive scan it's not just about resolution: Fast things look better on progressive scan, they give an example of a hockey game showing the interlaced and non interlaced versions.

If there was no value added I would not be considering it. As this is only $30 more than the cheapest DVD players, I would think it is worth having progressive scan even if I don't get the HDTV resolution.

 

[Oxonium]

I will be very unhappy with a $80 DVD player to go with my $340 32 inch TV?

You can not even imagine how low my standards are!

According to the panasonic web page on progressive scan it's not just about resolution: Fast things look better on progressive scan, they give an example of a hockey game showing the interlaced and non interlaced versions.

If there was no value added I would not be considering it. As this is only $30 more than the cheapest DVD players, I would think it is worth having progressive scan even if I don't get the HDTV resolution.

The point is that unless you have a TV that can display progressive images (480p), progressive scan does nothing to enhance the image and enabling it either does nothing or results in a scrambled image. Ordinary TVs cannot display progressive images as they produce interlaced images only (480i). You need a high-definition or enhanced-definition digital TV (both of which should display 480p at the very least) to take advantage of progressive scan. And as tji stated, just because your TV has component inputs doesn't mean that your TV can handle progressive scan.

This might be a good DVD player to buy if you plan to upgrade to a digital TV sometime in the next few years. If you are just buying it because it has progressive scan and don't have (or don't plan to get) a digital TV, you need to realize that you won't be able to use the progressive scan feature.

 

[mboy]

You will be very unhappy because U WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE IT IN PROGRESSIVE SCAN. It is not that u will not get the progressive scan benefits, you will NOT be able to view it. Plain and simple, if u leave it on progressive scan and try to view it on a TV that is not HDTV or Progressive capable, u wont be able to watch it PERIOD!!!!!!

You might as well get one of the $50 DVD players if you do not plan on buying an HDTV in the near future.

 

[GnatGoSplat]

Interesting deck for a cheap price. Looks like it has a built-in 5.1 Dolby Digital decoder as well. I paid close to $150 for my standalone 5.1/DTS decoder box.
I don't have a progressive scan capable TV yet, so how does this compare to an Apex, for example, the AD-3201?
Does this deck use a DVD-ROM drive like the Apex units do?

 

[GreatBambino]

well what about this dvd player. It says:'

Super ColorStream® Pro Progressive Scan Component Video Outputs compatible with today's finest analog and digital televisions for delivery of stunningly colorful images

10-Bit 54mHz Video digital-to-analog conversion with High Resolution Filter for maximum color purity, detail, and resolution



From all of that i would expect it to be better than the normal dvd player right? I'm just asking because i just bought that player from costco.

 

[Oxonium]

Originally posted by: GreatBambino
well what about this dvd player. It says:'

Super ColorStream® Pro Progressive Scan Component Video Outputs compatible with today's finest analog and digital televisions for delivery of stunningly colorful images

10-Bit 54mHz Video digital-to-analog conversion with High Resolution Filter for maximum color purity, detail, and resolution



From all of that i would expect it to be better than the normal dvd player right? I'm just asking because i just bought that player from costco.

OK, let's try this again.... Just because a DVD player has component video out does not mean that you can take advantage of progressive scan. If you hook up the component output of the DVD player to the component input of an analog television, you should get a better picture than you would with an s-video, RCA, or coaxial connection. That is true and using the component outputs of your Toshiba DVD player will give you a better picture, but it will not be a progressive scan image. To take advantage of progressive scan, must have a television that supports progressive scan and the only TVs that have that support are digital. Enabling progressive scan on a non-digital TV will result in a scrambled image or no image at all.

Again, component output should result in a better picture on an analog television but to take advantage of progressive scan, you must have a digital television.

 

[mboy]

Originally posted by: Oxonium

Originally posted by: GreatBambino
well what about this dvd player. It says:'

Super ColorStream® Pro Progressive Scan Component Video Outputs compatible with today's finest analog and digital televisions for delivery of stunningly colorful images

10-Bit 54mHz Video digital-to-analog conversion with High Resolution Filter for maximum color purity, detail, and resolution



From all of that i would expect it to be better than the normal dvd player right? I'm just asking because i just bought that player from costco.

OK, let's try this again.... Just because a DVD player has component video out does not mean that you can take advantage of progressive scan. If you hook up the component output of the DVD player to the component input of an analog television, you should get a better picture than you would with an s-video, RCA, or coaxial connection. That is true and using the component outputs of your Toshiba DVD player will give you a better picture, but it will not be a progressive scan image. To take advantage of progressive scan, must have a television that supports progressive scan and the only TVs that have that support are digital. Enabling progressive scan on a non-digital TV will result in a scrambled image or no image at all.

Again, component output should result in a better picture on an analog television but to take advantage of progressive scan, you must have a digital television.

Our our faces turning blue yet?

Bottom line--NO HDTV'EDTV=NO PRogressive scan--- NO EXCEPTIONS!!!

 

[Brandon2000]

Still trying to get one thing straight, would I get better picture quality on this sony tv by using the progressive or component output function. I do have component inputs in the back of my tv and the manual does really say much about it, thx ahead of time for any comments or input

SONY

 

[Hork]

I just learned this too before I bought this model DVD player and the $299 Advent 32" TV at Best Buy on Black Friday.

You need to separate the issues here.

1) You can't take advantage of Progressive Scan on a TV that isn't ready for HDTV. Your analog TV (and mine) won't display in 480p mode. So, the only reason to get this DVD if using with an analog TV now is to allow for the possibility that you might upgrade later to a better TV. This is one reason I bought it.... I figure I may go to a better TV within a year or two and wanted to take advantage of the Progressive Scan when I did.

If you don't want to invest in the progressive scan now, the APEX DVDs that you could get for $40 on Black Friday were a good deal. Just understand that there is a very high return rate on them, and very mixed reviews; if you get a good one, you're lucky, if not, take it back. At that price you should consider them throwaways and feel lucky if you get several months of service out of them. When you do decide to invest in a TV that will show progressive 480p mode, the cost of progressive DVDs will be probably be down and the DVD technology in general may be better.

2) Component Inputs/Outputs. The fact that your DVD has component out and your TV has component in means that you can use a component cable to hook them together. My understanding is that you will get a better quality picture using this means of connection than say composite or S-Video. It's along the same lines of using S-Video to get a better picture than composite inputs.

Finally, unrelated to the above two issues... If you do get this player, you may want to get the firmware upgrade available from the CyberHome web site. This is especially true if planning to play SVCDs or Digital Audio.

Hope this helps!

Hork

 

[Hork]

Oh yeah... does anyone know where to get component cables cheap? They're like $30! Is the improvement in picture quality worth the investment? :-D

 

[Talyrius]

Originally posted by: Hork
Oh yeah... does anyone know where to get component cables cheap? They're like $30! Is the improvement in picture quality worth the investment? :-D

Of course, you can get some very cheap component cables at almost any electronics store. Don't buy them though. They will look like ****! Don't skimp on the cables. They are worth the investment, believe me. I recommend you buy some good ol' Monster Component Video Cables.

You can usually get some good ones for $40-50. If you want the best, you are going to have to pay $90+.

 

[mboy]

STAY away from MOnster cables. VERY VERY VERY overpriced. For what most of yo are using them for (non progressive from an inexpensive DVD to inexpensive tv, I would go to www.partsexpress.com and get their Dayton Line of component cables, or if you want to go a step up, go with the AR pro series.
U will be just fine with the Dayton line.

And for the last time, YOU CAN NOT VIEW Progressive scan on a non edtd/hdtv. The picture is NOT viewable.

Component cables ahve nothing to do with Progressive scan other then the fact that Progressive scan can only be sent thru component cables to an HDTV.

 

[beerbong]

the main advantage im seeing is it plays vcd/svcd very well. costs just a bit more than a apex 1500 (cant buy them anyplace) and has progressive scan if you want it.