Cyberbullying

[slayer202]

I wonder if these cases of bullying are more likely in smaller schools. With a large population you are more likely to find people that you can befriend. When I was in HS, I don't recall anyone really being a social outcast, there was a group of everyone. Our student body was close to 2K.

I think it's more about location and other demographics, not size. household income might be a good indicator

 

[Stuxnet]

I wonder if these cases of bullying are more likely in smaller schools. With a large population you are more likely to find people that you can befriend. When I was in HS, I don't recall anyone really being a social outcast, there was a group of everyone. Our student body was close to 2K.

Similar here. My class had about 500 people. There was a small group of ultra clique-y sluts and jocks, but they (as a group) were so small they were fairly insignificant. I had a huge circle of friends, with some overlap of other huge circles of friends, and so forth. Everyone got along pretty well; high school = very fond memories.

I feel genuine sorrow for anyone who missed out on that, especially due to bullying or being cast aside. There's as little excuse for tolerating it as there is for committing the act yourself. People who think kids should just "deal with it" are the ones who need to be set aside as weak and defective.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Normally I hate the adverts on television but the last one I saw I really agreed with. It was warning of the dangers of cyber bullying; how sad and sick it is. How cyber bullying really does show the broken society we live in today and all that has changed over the years with the age of technology...

Now it's the fatty's and the nerds have the upper hand when it comes to picking on people. God must be shaking his head looking at what we've become. Shaking his head...

 

[soulcougher73]

I dont get it either. Just stop using some website or go do something else not related to computers if its that big a deal.

 

[soulcougher73]

Why should the victim have to turn off the computer and find something else to do, when they didn't do anything wrong? It's the bullies that should be kicked off, not their victims.

Bully back. They are just words. Its not like in real life if you are a wimp and have to take if from a bigger guy or something.

 

[sixone]

Bully back. They are just words. Its not like in real life if you are a wimp and have to take if from a bigger guy or something.

😀

 

[Corporate Thug]

I don't get it. Why are so many parents and politicians so gung-ho about putting an end to cyberbullying? Why do the proposed laws even exist? If a kid doesn't have the common sense to simply turn off the computer and do something else then I have no sympathy. Why aren't these idiot parents, etc. taking care of REAL, PHYSICAL bullying instead?

Am I missing something?

Turning off the computer doesn't prevent you from getting a nasty email or a facebook post or a text message, etc.

 

[Gooberlx2]

I dont get it either. Just stop using some website or go do something else not related to computers if its that big a deal.

Because, for example, blocking/ignoring bullies online doesn't have any affect on the JohnDoeIsAFag Facebook group to which the whole school has subscribed, if only out of curiosity. People are naive if they think bullying doesn't creep from online to real life and back; and affect that kid's social interactions with his peers everyday.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Cyber bullying making your life hell and not worth living?

I find a rather good alternative to committing suicide is to find out where the bully lives, go round their house and simply kick their fucking wise and beautiful woman in.

 

[alkemyst]

Because even if you turn off the computer, you still know they're talking about you 🙁 🙁 🙁

Not just talking usually though.

It's more like posting to 50+ people:

"No one look at X today"

"Hey everyone knock X's books out of their hands today"

"everyone lets say X is too smelly and we need her to be taken out of class"

and it gets even more violent from there as people one up each other.

The sad part is when the parent's take part in it to help.

 

[alkemyst]

Excellent threadcrap. I'll reply anyway:

IDGAF if their "primary interactions" are through social media. Words are just words. Period. People talk shit all the time to all genders and races. For some stupid child to let it affect them to the point they cry or (god forbid) commit suicide is absolutely pathetic.

And I couldn't search, so I wasn't able to verify the repost-ness.

I am thinking you were bullied as a kid and now want to act like everyone else needs to toughen up.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Beev, you're talking about two separate issues. The first regards 'youts' who's primary view of the world is TV and social media ie. most of them. The second regards bullying which is a disease that can only be temporarily alleviated by clamping down physically and mentally on the perpetrators. Bullies can not be educated out of it, they do not grow out of it and, they can not be ignored because they will simply escalate. Bullies are sick, they can change but, they have to desire that change.

 

[bfdd]

Turning off the computer doesn't prevent you from getting a nasty email or a facebook post or a text message, etc.

Getting restraining orders for stalkers helps though. Finding the person who started all the rumors and breaking their fingers so they can't post any more non-sense might get the point across too. Seriously all this feminism is sickening. Stop being little bitches, if someone wants to try and ruin your life with words ruin theirs with actions. You treat others how they want to be treated.

 

[AreaCode707]

Getting restraining orders for stalkers helps though. Finding the person who started all the rumors and breaking their fingers so they can't post any more non-sense might get the point across too. Seriously all this feminism is sickening. Stop being little bitches, if someone wants to try and ruin your life with words ruin theirs with actions. You treat others how they want to be treated.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

 

[shortylickens]

If you cant handle virtual confrontation the real world is gonna eat you alive.

 

[0roo0roo]

bullying is the new self esteem.

the crack down on fights and the rest has only led to this perverse situation, in the past you could just fight it out, now, anyone involved gets expelled, so you have people dicking each other behind their back instead. the more rules you put up, the more perverse it gets. plus they keep expanding the definition of cyberbullying, sometimes if your kid is ackward or annoying, yes they will be excluded from groups at school.

people jump on this bandwagon now way too quick. that last case of phoebe prince where folks claimed she was driven to suicide by bullying, when journalists actually looked into the case, she wasn't bullied at all. apparently you get ill will when you arrive at a new school and then sleep with all the other girls b/f's... whoda thunkit.

 

[0roo0roo]

Not just talking usually though.

It's more like posting to 50+ people:

"No one look at X today"

"Hey everyone knock X's books out of their hands today"

"everyone lets say X is too smelly and we need her to be taken out of class"

and it gets even more violent from there as people one up each other.

The sad part is when the parent's take part in it to help.

yea and i'm sure it almost never happens.

look it wasn't all that long ago they were extrapolating that by now 100% of girls would be anorexic or bulemic and dying at the rate of 100% per year. this is all hysteria

claiming you were bullied is now a fad. lady gaga claimed she was, no one else at her school seems to remember this at all...😛

 

[speedy2]

If you cant handle virtual confrontation the real world is gonna eat you alive.

THIS.

A lot of school age kids think EVERYTHING that matters happens at school. School is like their world. After HS graduation everyone leaves, does their own thing, etc, etc. How come some get stuck in this "world" and find it so important. It's like they feed off it.

On this same note, these same people give this weird look when you say, "my child, sister, brother, etc is home schooled." Like, they're in some prison.

 

[CPA]

I'm a gamer nerd who grew up in a town with zero other gamers. I was always picked last and I was always made fun of. It is NOT hard to ignore. If it starts to get physical then simply turn them in, if nothing is resolved, go to the police. No, that obviously won't work for every situation.

The biggest step today's stupid children need to take is to learn to NOT GIVE A SHIT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK. It flat out doesn't matter if the popular kids tell everyone you're a huge loser. ChAoTiCpInOy posted pretty much what I'm talking about really: The government does NOT need to intervene in crap like this. What a god damn waste of money and other resources...

I'm with you, believe me. But, as a father of 4 kids, let me tell you it's very difficult for a child to "ignore" someone. I can't tell you the number of times each of my kids have cried "but I can't" when I tell them to ignore someone. It's just not easy for them.

 

[Doppel]

Because even if you turn off the computer, you still know they're talking about you 🙁 🙁 🙁

This is true and children have insanely fragile self-esteems.

 

[LookBehindYou]

My son is 7, but I'll be damned if I let him get bullied. No, I don't mean I will tell the bully's parents. My son will know not to stand for bullying. Response with violence is ok in my book. Sounds bad, but that's the way it is. A bully is not going to respond to name calling, so that's when a beat down or a broken limb come into play. All it takes is one good ass whooping and it really isn't a problem anymore.

Ignoring it won't work and telling teacher won't work. Parents need to quit coddling their kids and let them take their frustration/anger/pain out on the bully.

 

[shortylickens]

THIS.

A lot of school age kids think EVERYTHING that matters happens at school. School is like their world. After HS graduation everyone leaves, does their own thing, etc, etc. How come some get stuck in this "world" and find it so important. It's like they feed off it.

On this same note, these same people give this weird look when you say, "my child, sister, brother, etc is home schooled." Like, they're in some prison.

Some of the most sociable and sophisticated people I know were home schooled. They did better cuz they were kept out of the bullshit nanny state and their parents actually raised them properly.
If you knew deep down inside that you were a GOOD parent, why would you want the average American school fucking your kids up 6 hours a day?

 

[kranky]

insanely easy to get away from?

last night i posted on my facebook that you are a loser. everyone in the school sees it. today you have to go through an entire day of school where everyone thinks you are a loser and says so.

how do you get away from that?

That's it. The equivalent in real life would be if the kid got bullied in front of a school assembly and all your friends, day after day. It's one thing to get picked on while waiting for the bus where a handful of people might witness it. Completely different if you are bullied in front of the whole world.

Also, with cyberbullying you have people who pile on who would never do a thing in real life. So instead of the single bully you are being hounded by an anonymous mob, and everyone knows it.

When you see so many kids committing suicide from being on the receiving end of it, it should be obvious that it is no different than torture.

 

[Kev]

Not really. I guess I just have the (unfair?) opinion that anyone, child or not, who lets crap like that drive them to suicide is a pathetic person. I do not, and have never thought that cyberbullying is this little 1on1 exchange that no one else sees.

Curious, have you ever been bullied? Did you have to endure years of mental torture during your formative years? I would like to know what makes you such an expert.

 

[sixone]

My son is 7, but I'll be damned if I let him get bullied. No, I don't mean I will tell the bully's parents. My son will know not to stand for bullying. Response with violence is ok in my book. Sounds bad, but that's the way it is. A bully is not going to respond to name calling, so that's when a beat down or a broken limb come into play. All it takes is one good ass whooping and it really isn't a problem anymore.

Ignoring it won't work and telling teacher won't work. Parents need to quit coddling their kids and let them take their frustration/anger/pain out on the bully.

Then how is your kid any different from the bully?

If the bully hits your kid first, then he should hit back harder. But responding to words with violence should never be okay.