Curse of Oak Island Season 3

[Fanatical Meat]

Why don't they box it in with sheetpile, and just dig it out? It doesn't sound like an insurmountable problem using equipment built in the last century.

I'm not sure what Sheetpile is but I know they have some environmental regulations to deal with.

 

[lxskllr]

I'm not sure what Sheetpile is but I know they have some environmental regulations to deal with.

Sheetpile is interlocking plates of steel used in wet environments. It isn't leakproof, but it slows the water to a manageable level. Environmental concerns would be a plausible reason not to mass excavate. I've never seen the show, but have long known of the story. It's pretty fascinating.

 

[Subyman]

I watched a few episodes. I'm really tired of the reality TV format that discovery and history channel use. I'd like them to shoot it as if they didn't think the viewer was a moron. More information, even about the mundane is better than hyping up nothing and repeating clips over and over. That is why I respect shows like Jay Leno's Garage where he talks about things enthusiasts care about and there is absolutely zero artificial drama. After an episode I feel like I've learned something.

 

[OutHouse]

Sheetpile is interlocking plates of steel used in wet environments. It isn't leakproof, but it slows the water to a manageable level. Environmental concerns would be a plausible reason not to mass excavate. I've never seen the show, but have long known of the story. It's pretty fascinating.

its not ground water seeping causing the flooding its the tunnels out to the ocean. nobody has found them them so they cant pump it out. they already have a 8foot wide steel tube going down 200 feet that is keeping the hole stable .

 

[mrrman]

like the show but they repeat so much of the same content over and over

 

[cavemanmoron]

Why don't they box it in with sheetpile, and just dig it out? It doesn't sound like an insurmountable problem using equipment built in the last century.

Indeed, stop playing and get some real equipment in there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Tunnel

 

[cavemanmoron]

like the show but they repeat so much of the same content over and over

Yep I stopped watching any of these type shows years ago. At least a minute of the last before commercials stuff, one minute of New stuff, and then 2 minutes of commercials
repeat till you get seasick.

 

[Charmonium]

Who thought that dropping the pipe was contrived. I saw that coming as soon as they described how they were going to do the extraction.

 

[OutHouse]

Who thought that dropping the pipe was contrived. I saw that coming as soon as they described how they were going to do the extraction.

I dont think so, it cost them a boat load of money to fish that pipe back out.

 

[LTC8K6]

I dont think so, it cost them a boat load of money to fish that pipe back out.

It's a TV show...

It's not costing them much money at all, if any.

It's scripted and contrived all the way, just like any other TV show.

 

[LTC8K6]

Almost certainly no body down there:
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/wednesday-odds-and-ends1

The Oak Island treasure story is just made up:
http://www.criticalenquiry.org/oakisland/index.shtml
http://www.criticalenquiry.org/oakisland/OI_myths.shtml

 

[LTC8K6]

NMRI from satellite photos is just as fake now as it was when Georesonance tried to claim they had located Malaysia flight 370 with it...

 

[Denly]

Almost certainly no body down there:
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/wednesday-odds-and-ends1

The Oak Island treasure story is just made up:
http://www.criticalenquiry.org/oakisland/index.shtml
http://www.criticalenquiry.org/oakisland/OI_myths.shtml

I only learned the hole over from this thread and did some reading, my take is as long as the hole and "five fingers drain" is real it deserve the attention it is getting. Who/what is capable to dig should a 200' hole 200+ years ago with no trace of settlement?

 

[OutHouse]

Almost certainly no body down there:
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/wednesday-odds-and-ends1

The Oak Island treasure story is just made up:
http://www.criticalenquiry.org/oakisland/index.shtml
http://www.criticalenquiry.org/oakisland/OI_myths.shtml

so you read one story written by some guy who consulted for the tv shows monster quest and secret history of UFO's says its all fake and you believe it...

 

[Thebobo]

How about the absurd picture that those two folks brought in claiming that a satellite can detect gold, gems, silver, tunnels etc underground over 200'. What a load of tripe.

And if they had found something it would of been in the news.

 

[LTC8K6]

There are no records of any major hole digging until about 1850, when machines were available to do the work, and a 200 foot hole was child's play for them, and the legend of the treasure was already firmly in place.

There's a huge problem with the idea of a 200 foot hole having been dug on the island in the early days. There's no record of any of the excavated dirt. There's no record of the lumber yard and tools that would have been needed. You should have had an enormous dirt pile, lots of lumber, lots of tools and rigging, etc. It would have involved a large crew, a large workyard, buildings, lots of tools, etc.

Think about it yourself. You are going to dig a large 200 foot deep hole on a forested island with just men and hand tools. It's an enormous project that requires enormous resources. It would leave an enormous footprint on the island, visible long after the hole was abandoned.

There's never been a sign of any such project on oak Island prior to the arrival of machinery to dig for treasure around 1850.

The five fingers drain system was probably for making salt to preserve fish, without having to pay taxes on the salt production.

Claiming to know where treasure is buried was, and still is, a common way to get people to give you money.

Also, selling treasure hunting licenses was a common way to get money.

That is at the root of the Oak Island treasure myth, imo.

There's no evidence at all for most of the base claims about the island and the pit.

Anything at the bottom of the pit or pits, most likely fell in there during one of the multitudes of tunneling and collapse cycles over the decades.

If there was a enormous project to make a 200 foot hole early on, there should be lots of dropped tools, broken tools, discarded lumber, abandoned buildings, and other leftovers from that project.

The island has literally been "swiss cheesed" with all sorts of holes at all sorts of depths and angles. Holes were dug, collapsed, and dug again decades later. This cycle repeated over and over again.

There is no longer any "original hole", if there ever was one. There are dozens and dozens of dig sites on the island. Many overlapping and criss-crossing sites and tunnels all over the place.

 

[LTC8K6]

so you read one story written by some guy who consulted for the tv shows monster quest and secret history of UFO's says its all fake and you believe it...

No, I have read about Oak Island since I was a boy.

It's always been nothing but an unsupported legend, with group after group after group throwing lots of money at it and digging lots of holes.

There is no documentation prior to the mid 1800's. By then, the treasure legend was already firmly in place. People went there to dig because of the legend.

 

[LTC8K6]

How about the absurd picture that those two folks brought in claiming that a satellite can detect gold, gems, silver, tunnels etc underground over 200'. What a load of tripe.

And if they had found something it would of been in the news.

That's the same thing a company called Georesonance tried to say they used to locate MH370, the missing Malaysian 777 airplane.

It's as phony as dowsing, but nowhere near as popular.

 

[lxskllr]

There's a huge problem with the idea of a 200 foot hole having been dug on the island in the early days. There's no record of any of the excavated dirt. There's no record of the lumber yard and tools that would have been needed. You should have had an enormous dirt pile, lots of lumber, lots of tools and rigging, etc. It would have involved a large crew, a large workyard, buildings, lots of tools, etc.

You forgot "clandestinely". This monumental operation was performed to stash illegally gotten wealth. Must have had alien help.

 

[LTC8K6]

And quickly. You can't get caught in the middle of trying to hide your ill gotten hoard. You need to hide it reasonably quickly and clear the area. You can't spend 6 months or a year waiting to bury your loot. You'll get caught.

 

[Harrod]

Personally I don't think that there is anything buried out there. I mean, what are the chances that someone would bury a huge treasure on an island and then forget to tell anyone about it, and never return for it.

 

[SAWYER]

How in the heck could they stretch 3 seasons out of this? One season a year and how many episodes per season?

 

[Charmonium]

I understand all of the skepticism and it's one of the reasons that I don't watch any other reality shows besides this one. But they have turned things up on the island that are difficult to explain. The most convincing one is the discovery of wood beams a hundred or more feet down. I think that was last season. The geology of the island seems to be well understood so finding wood at those depths doesn't seem likely except for human activity.

Now granted, they could be faking the whole thing but if that's the case, that will eventually leak out. This show is crazy popular. They had over 3M viewers for the season 2 finale. That's extraordinary for a history channel show and why they've been hyping the show in those ads they run in movie theaters before the trailers start.

I don't think that they're going to find anything, but we're getting close to the point where if they don't, viewership is going to drop off quickly. So if they're being honest and not planting evidence, this should be the season where they either come up with something meaningful or just go home.

 

[FeuerFrei]

They'll stretch it out until someone dies, that's the whole goal. It's titled Curse of Oak Island for a reason.

 

[LTC8K6]

I understand all of the skepticism and it's one of the reasons that I don't watch any other reality shows besides this one. But they have turned things up on the island that are difficult to explain. The most convincing one is the discovery of wood beams a hundred or more feet down. I think that was last season. The geology of the island seems to be well understood so finding wood at those depths doesn't seem likely except for human activity.

Now granted, they could be faking the whole thing but if that's the case, that will eventually leak out. This show is crazy popular. They had over 3M viewers for the season 2 finale. That's extraordinary for a history channel show and why they've been hyping the show in those ads they run in movie theaters before the trailers start.

I don't think that they're going to find anything, but we're getting close to the point where if they don't, viewership is going to drop off quickly. So if they're being honest and not planting evidence, this should be the season where they either come up with something meaningful or just go home.

Of course there are wood beams 100 feet down. Why wouldn't there be? What do wood beams and concrete left down there by one of the many operations carried out over the years have to do with treasure?

There must be all sorts of stuff left down there from all the attempts since 1850 or so. All sorts of timbers, concrete, steel, tools, coins, shoes, cook pots, wire, and on and on and on...

If they believe they drilled into a treasure vault wall when the wood beam came up, what are they waiting for? How long could it take to drill another hole and hit the middle of the chamber, and insert a camera?

I think it's pretty clear that they know they didn't drill into any treasure chamber wall, or any other wall. They never followed up their "vault wall" discovery as far as I can tell.

This is all about money making and tourist attraction, imo.