Current Sr. Google Engineer Goes Public on Camera: Tech is "dangerous," "taking sides"

[zinfamous]

What could have been an interesting topic...

I'm gonna stop you right there.

No.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Basically every large company in the country is run by people who effectively live in a bubble but you never complain about the Waltons, etc.

You’re mad because these people are powerful and live in a bubble that might be unfavorable to you, not that they are powerful and live in a bubble.

Walmart doesn’t have an outsized effect on all of America though and very few companies come close (I can’t think of any really) to having the same power and influence as Google over the US economy, culture, and knowledge base.

 

[Amused]

What could have been an interesting topic unfortunately was derailed into simply a circle jerk attacking the source without any mention of the topic itself. Great example of why this forum has all but died, people have left this place for more open and mature forums to be honest. Which is sad because AT used to be great.

Haven’t watched the vid yet because I’m not in a place where I can, but read through the NYT article which was interesting. There was a great Joe Rogan interview with Jack Dorsey where he made the point that these tech companies are all located in a very polarized bubble and their policies are effected by this, even though they may not mean for it to be, and it’s important for them to diversify themselves geographically as a way to diversify their thoughts and ideas.

The end result of staying polarized and not only that but using their very considerable size and power to manipulate public discourse will ultimately be regulation which is unfortunate. The question is coming up as to what are these companies and their positions within our societies. Should Google as a private entity be allowed to manipulate its algorithms or advertising accounts in the case of Tulsi etc to favor candidates, manipulate public discourse, and actively engage in driving politics and elections in a certain direction.

Do those worried about Russian (or any foreign) interference in our elections share the same concern about a handful of private corporations doing the same? It’s an interesting conversation to have.

The "source" himself admits he has never worked on the algorithms or policy. He has had no part in it and has NO direct or indirect knowledge of it.

And yet, he's being passed off as a "whistleblower"

Let that sink in.

Reality: He is an alt-right conspiratard who happens to work for a totally unrelated section of Google.

Do ANY of the right-wing understand the difference between claims and evidence???

It's almost as if you all are INTENTIONALLY ignoring my posts in this thread.

 

[Amused]

What is yalls opinion on the idea that the tech giants are run by and large from within these bubbles in Silicon Valley and a few large cities and are ran by those with essentially all the same viewpoints on things, and that it may effect a lot of their policy and decision making whether they mean to or not - particularly within the context of moderating their platforms/services or using them to influence our democratic process.

There are a handful of tech giants that have outsized effects on us, the economy, our culture, etc. My opinion is that people are realizing that and their size and influence that means power and control coupled with a perception of being bias and poltical and it’s beginning to spook them. Especially when these companies aren’t overtly political like cable news is, but something that isn’t seen as being political and something that is so absolutely ingrained in so many aspects of our lives. Companies that we can’t just switch or ignore.

The irony of the supposedly free market conservatives whining about the free market rejecting them and their hatred and bigotry and then doubling down and claiming that rejection is a "violation of their free speech" is not lost on those with more than a double digit IQ.

Free of any government intervention or force, the free marketplace of ideas, publishers and social media platforms along with advertisers have all ROUNDLY rejected the right-wing message.

In point of fact, the ONLY way for the right-wing to secure a different outcome is to TAKE AWAY the freedom of someone else. To force private property owners to carry their message against their will. To force advertisers to advertise against their will. To force venue holders to host against their will.

Irony. Pure Irony.

The first amendment limits the government from restricting your speech. It does NOT entitle you to a platform or the use of someone else's property to carry your speech.

/thisStupidFuckingThread

 

[DrDoug]

Walmart doesn’t have an outsized effect on all of America though and very few companies come close (I can’t think of any really) to having the same power and influence as Google over the US economy, culture, and knowledge base.

No, just because you said the above does not make it true. WalMart does have a huge influence on prices and wages in their areas and you are a moron if you think they don't. But that's OK because you can get cheap shit there, right? Nobody is stopping you from using Walmart unless you break their rules, just like every other place of business in America. If they could just quit being assholes to others in public, conservatives just might be able to participate and not get kicked out.

It's really simple, but for some reason conservatives prefer to whine and play the victim.

 

[fskimospy]

Walmart doesn’t have an outsized effect on all of America though and very few companies come close (I can’t think of any really) to having the same power and influence as Google over the US economy, culture, and knowledge base.

Are you serious?! Walmart exerts an absolutely enormous influence on all of America.

 

[Jhhnn]

Walmart doesn’t have an outsized effect on all of America though and very few companies come close (I can’t think of any really) to having the same power and influence as Google over the US economy, culture, and knowledge base.

Walmart is the country's biggest employer. Their ruthless business practices are legendary.

 

[brycejones]

Walmart doesn’t have an outsized effect on all of America though and very few companies come close (I can’t think of any really) to having the same power and influence as Google over the US economy, culture, and knowledge base.

Its only the company almost single handedly responsible for destroying downtowns in small cities across America.

 

[Amused]

Allow me to spell this out for you:

You.
Can.
Not.
Blow.
A
Whistle.
On.
Something.
You.
Know.
Nothing.
About.
And.
Did.
Not.
Witness.

This entire video is nothing more than a conspiracy theory with no evidence whatsoever.

 

[allisolm]

Allow me to spell this out for you:

You.
Can.
Not.
Blow.
A
Whistle.
On.
Something.
You.
Know.
Nothing.
About.
And.
Did.
Not.
Witness.

This entire video is nothing more than a conspiracy theory with no evidence whatsoever.

This.

 

[brycejones]

Allow me to spell this out for you:

You.
Can.
Not.
Blow.
A
Whistle.
On.
Something.
You.
Know.
Nothing.
About.
And.
Did.
Not.
Witness.

This entire video is nothing more than a conspiracy theory with no evidence whatsoever.

So much this. But certain people are still very concerned.

 

[darkswordsman17]

The "source" himself admits he has never worked on the algorithms or policy. He has had no part in it and has NO direct or indirect knowledge of it.

And yet, he's being passed off as a "whistleblower"

Let that sink in.

Reality: He is an alt-right conspiratard who happens to work for a totally unrelated section of Google.

Do ANY of the right-wing understand the difference between claims and evidence???

It's almost as if you all are INTENTIONALLY ignoring my posts in this thread.

They are intentionally ignoring facts (which is why they're intentionally ignoring the facts you're presenting). They always are. Granted they also don't understand, but they know they don't understand but that other people do and so they intentionally try to spread this nonsense because its just noise for them to scream about. They do it every single time there's a big shit show with Republicans. Its not even meant for people like you or me, its meant for the other morons to stay overwhelmed with nonsense so that they'll be unable to let things like the President being a rapist of young teenage girls, or him having committed crimes (that have very likely led to him committing outright treason) sink in. They genuinely think liberals are doing the same thing so they feel no remorse for it.

 

[darkswordsman17]

No, just because you said the above does not make it true. WalMart does have a huge influence on prices and wages in their areas and you are a moron if you think they don't. But that's OK because you can get cheap shit there, right? Nobody is stopping you from using Walmart unless you break their rules, just like every other place of business in America. If they could just quit being assholes to others in public, conservatives just might be able to participate and not get kicked out.

It's really simple, but for some reason conservatives prefer to whine and play the victim.

Yeah, Conservatives should just walk into Wal-Mart and start screaming their racist shit, conspiracy theories, waving guns around, saying how they should be shooting liberals/immigrants, and "trolling" by dressing up as Pepe spouting white supremacist shit, and see how long before Wal-Mart kicks them out. Granted, I don't doubt there's quite a few Wal-Marts where they'd get some cheers, but it'll fuck up Wal-Marts business and they're not gonna put up with that shit. And that's just the immediate affect. Watch as companies start pulling their products from Wal-Mart shelves because they don't want to be associate with that shit. And there'll be plenty of people that stop going there if they encounter such crap. And then have fun once they start assaulting people like they do online. Wal-Mart will love having to pay for security try to keep shoppers safe or having to call the police for everything.

 

[Victorian Gray]

The "source" himself admits he has never worked on the algorithms or policy. He has had no part in it and has NO direct or indirect knowledge of it.

And yet, he's being passed off as a "whistleblower"

Let that sink in.

Reality: He is an alt-right conspiratard who happens to work for a totally unrelated section of Google.

Do ANY of the right-wing understand the difference between claims and evidence???

It's almost as if you all are INTENTIONALLY ignoring my posts in this thread.

That's what trolls do? You can't honestly believe that any of these clowns give a damn about what you have to say. Their only purpose here is to fuck shit up and spread the propaganda.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Yeah, Conservatives should just walk into Wal-Mart and start screaming their racist shit, conspiracy theories, waving guns around, saying how they should be shooting liberals/immigrants, and "trolling" by dressing up as Pepe spouting white supremacist shit, and see how long before Wal-Mart kicks them out. Granted, I don't doubt there's quite a few Wal-Marts where they'd get some cheers, but it'll fuck up Wal-Marts business and they're not gonna put up with that shit. And that's just the immediate affect. Watch as companies start pulling their products from Wal-Mart shelves because they don't want to be associate with that shit. And there'll be plenty of people that stop going there if they encounter such crap. And then have fun once they start assaulting people like they do online. Wal-Mart will love having to pay for security try to keep shoppers safe or having to call the police for everything.

Have you ever set foot in a Walmart? It’s the absolute dredge of society and everything you just mentioned and so much more takes place in them every single day.



For those arguing about Walmart vs Google yes Wally World is big and has definitely had a huge effect on transforming the country but I don’t think you’re really getting the point (probably on purpose),

Google is one of if not the most important gatekeeper of human knowledge, commerce, and communications. Walmart peddles Chinese junk. They’re both large corporations but one is drastically more important to each of us and society as a whole.

 

[Jhhnn]

Have you ever set foot in a Walmart? It’s the absolute dredge of society and everything you just mentioned and so much more takes place in them every single day.

Bullshit. Walmart customers are a broad cross section of America. They are us. Deal with it. If that weren't true they wouldn't be our #1 retailer.

 

[brycejones]

Have you ever set foot in a Walmart? It’s the absolute dredge of society and everything you just mentioned and so much more takes place in them every single day.



For those arguing about Walmart vs Google yes Wally World is big and has definitely had a huge effect on transforming the country but I don’t think you’re really getting the point (probably on purpose),

Google is one of if not the most important gatekeeper of human knowledge, commerce, and communications. Walmart peddles Chinese junk. They’re both large corporations but one is drastically more important to each of us and society as a whole.

In case you had forgotten this thread was about a story from a shitty outlet busted for lying multiple times previously quitting a guy who by his own admission has no evidence. Would you care to comment on that or are you going to derail down some rabbit hole after whining about no one taking the original story seriously.

Did you watch the video? Do you have anything to discuss based on facts from that video?

 

[WelshBloke]

Google is one of if not the most important gatekeeper of human knowledge, commerce, and communications.

Its a search engine. It makes things easier to find. There are other ones available. Its absolutely not a gatekeeper.

 

[cytg111]

You are not a credible arbiter of truth let alone have any claim on "critical thinking" after tens of thousands of articles on a russian conspiracy theory from your supposed "credible media" driving thousands of posts on here and it just blew up in your face yesterday as it inevitably would.

Go home to where you came from.

 

[UglyCasanova]

In case you had forgotten this thread was about a story from a shitty outlet busted for lying multiple times previously quitting a guy who by his own admission has no evidence. Would you care to comment on that or are you going to derail down some rabbit hole after whining about no one taking the original story seriously.

Did you watch the video? Do you have anything to discuss based on facts from that video?

Derail?

Most of this thread is just your buddies moaning about Project Veritas and complaining about a source rather than discussing a topic. Your first contribution to the thread was “Lol”. Glad we have you here playing Thread Cop though.

 

[brycejones]

Derail?

Most of this thread is just your buddies moaning about Project Veritas and complaining about a source rather than discussing a topic. Your first contribution to the thread was “Lol”. Glad we have you here playing Thread Cop though.

Lol

 

[JEDIYoda]

Derail?

[\QUOTE]hahaha your funny!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Derail?

hahhaha your funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Commodus]

Derail?

Most of this thread is just your buddies moaning about Project Veritas and complaining about a source rather than discussing a topic. Your first contribution to the thread was “Lol”. Glad we have you here playing Thread Cop though.

Because critical thinking means evaluating the trustworthiness of a source, including its history. And Project Veritas has a confirmed, longstanding reputation for lying and willfully misrepresenting subjects, one that's maintained here.

Besides, I don't think we should give any legitimacy to the OP's views. He's parroting the same old lie that internet companies are silencing conservatives purely for their ideology... and not what's actually happening, that they're largely being kicked off for their behavior (bots, fake news, inciting harassment, hate speech).

They cry censorship, but what they really want is a 'right' to be an asshole in someone else's space, and these companies are telling them "no."

 

[umbrella39]

Lol

No shit right? That is literally NEVER the topic around here and that account/user is just an attention whoring concern troll...

All that guy does is lie. Typical of many of the conservatives accounts here now sadly.

Back when Bush was POTUS, they could debate and defend Bush, he was somewhat defensible and they didn't have to make shit up.

Now.........

Just shit trolls and their poor white, conservatives bullshit about how everyone is so mean to them... the REAL oppressed. The REAL black.