DrDoug
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Nyet, Comrade! Unfortunately for you Red Warriors of Putinland, Mueller confirmed beyond all doubt that you and your playmates meddled in our election. The "credible media" (is this a Russian thing?) doesn't work over here like it does there in Russia. Our media is just nuts and says whatever they want, unlike the marching orders from Putin that your "credible media" follow. You have to live over here to understand why what you said makes absolutely no sense.
You need better training, Comrade! Our wheels of government grind slowly but when they suck something up into it, they grind exceedingly fine. Stay tuned for pureed Donny, it can still happen.
zinfamous
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No. There's a few posters here who are notorious for starting a thread with little more than a youtube video from some questionable source, along with a 'I find this highly interesting, I think everyone should watch it!', and I disregard those with the same veracity I would an advert on a given webpage.
DrDoug
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Read the thread and find out. If you need instructions on how to do this, just ask!
nakedfrog
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And you are an exceedingly well-known and documented fucking nutcase of the highest order. Absolute batshit bonkers looney.
Atreus21
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It is quite obvious that social media and big tech companies have a bias today. These are people that have been indoctrinated in college to think anything that doesn't agree with their agenda is bad and wrong. Liberals today don't understand what free speech really is and why it is just as important to defend the rights of those that you don't agree with just as much as those you do agree with. Ironic considering it was once the liberals that were fighting for a right to offend and not be subject to the over reaching morality of the conservative religious right. Today the liberals are the oppressors.
IronWing
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Sure. You'll need a pair of those red/blue glasses. If you're liberally inclined, close your right eye and read the thread through the red lens. If you're of the conservative persuasion, close your left eye and read through the blue lens. The filters will remove anything you don't like.
It's ironic that you claim other people don't know what free speech is and then complain about how Google exercises its freedom of expression.
I always find it amusing that they constantly shriek about how mean teenagers on college campuses are to free speech and then turn around and try to use the power of government to limit speech conservatives dislike. It's because conservatives don't actually give a shit about free speech, they care about conservative speech.
BurnItDwn
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https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_Veritas
Nope, since O'Keefe has a record of being honest or right 0% of the time. I will assume this is 100% fictional/garbage like everything else he's ever posted.
zinfamous
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MrSquished
Lifer
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Here's a solution for the right wing d-bags, maybe don't lie so much and stop shooting the messenger?
soundforbjt
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Just like I don't need to watch a Three Stooges short to know someone's going to get poked in the eye.
Commodus
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Hey, I didn't assume Trump conspired with Russia. I just operated on the actual, trustworthy evidence (something you have a problem with doing): that Russia really, really wanted Trump to win, because it knew his incompetence, soft foreign policy and divisiveness would weaken the US. They didn't want Clinton to win because they knew she'd at least have a backbone and baseline competence.
There's also a hilarious irony to talking about critical thinking when you don't do much more than watch hardline right-wing videos on YouTube all day and lap them up without question. There's no moment where you stop to think "hey, maybe I shouldn't trust an exposé from a confirmed serial liar," just this laughably naive expectation that we'll be just as gullible as you are.
hal2kilo
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You conflate things. I'm not arguing whether or not one has the right to do what they want with their business, if that business has a right to control their platform. I'm arguing that they are in fact doing it while they claim to the contrary.
Would you agree the NFL can force players to stand for the anthem?
I believe long ago there was even an admission to that effect when he let something slip. Not going to bother to look it up though.
Amused
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I did. And I gave a detailed, response debunking it. Curiously no one is replying to me. They keep beating bullshit strawmen.
Meanwhile the irony of the supposedly free market conservatives whining about the free market rejecting them and their hatred and bigotry and then doubling down and claiming that rejection is a "violation of their free speech" is not lost on those with more than a double digit IQ.
Free of any government intervention or force, the free marketplace of ideas, publishers and social media platforms along with advertisers have all ROUNDLY rejected the right-wing message.
In point of fact, the ONLY way for the right-wing to secure a different outcome is to TAKE AWAY the freedom of someone else. To force private property owners to carry their message against their will. To force advertisers to advertise against their will. To force venue holders to host against their will.
Irony. Pure Irony.
The first amendment limits the government from restricting your speech. It does NOT entitle you to a platform or the use of someone else's property to carry your speech.
/thisStupidFuckingThread
I know conservatives are doing this but this is simply a relative of the same paranoia/working the refs that conservatives employed so successfully against the mainstream media. They constantly complain of bias against them despite there being no evidence of such in the hopes that eventually they can intimidate them. Videos like this are a great example of that - they found a random guy who works for Google who has literally nothing to do with the formation or implementation of such policies even if they did exist and pretends otherwise. It's the sort of lies that O'Keefe is well known for.
It would be nice if for once conservatives would just take some personal responsibility. Don't like YouTube or Google because your mental illness tells you they are conspiring against you? Don't use them. Make your own search engine and your own video hosting site and stop whining for once in your lives. Honestly it would be so, so nice if for just a few days we were spared the endless whining by conservatives about how everything is so unfair to them.
Remember when that crazy guy decided Wikipedia was biased against conservatives and made Conservapedia? You can do that too!
To the best of my knowledge they likely cannot because it is not covered under the collective bargaining agreement between the players' union and the league. The NFL could try but then they're opening themselves up to a world of antitrust litigation they probably don't want to get into just because some conservative snowflakes got triggered.
Yup. I guess they think the rest of us are as easily duped as they are. I mean how stupid do you have to be to think that because someone works at Google they would have insight into this? Google employs 100,000 people!
Atreus21
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- Aug 21, 2007
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I see. And the fact that SourceWatch is owned by Center for Media and Democracy, a progressive watchdog group, doesn't give you pause about their impartiality?
Don't you think it's better to independently consider the substance of the argument rather than simply attacking the source?
BurnItDwn
Lifer
- Oct 10, 1999
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No,
Of course not.
Because the things that sourcewatch are saying are TRUE.
Veritas says things which are FALSE.
Did you watch the video? I also notice you aren't exactly responding to Amused's posts about it, if you are so concerned about "substance".
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