Current SCOTUS justice openly admits the corruption on the court for which she currently serves

HomerJS

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Once again this corrupt SCOTUS allowing Trump to break the law. Law specifies
In the 1935 decision known as Humphrey’s Executor, the court unanimously held that presidents cannot fire independent board members without cause.
 

GodisanAtheist

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It's fairly obvious at this point that our whole system of government is pretty badly broken, and honestly I'm not sure there is anyone anywhere near power that has either the intelligence or the ability to fix the system.
 
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Jaskalas

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Once again this corrupt SCOTUS allowing Trump to break the law. Law specifies
I have tried to no longer be shocked or surprised by America's Nazi Germany imitation here... but JFC Roberts...
Really, SCOTUS is disposing of all law and just anointing an Emperor. And they think them and their loved ones will somehow survive the civil war to follow.

If humanity is this stupid, we are already well and truly cooked. The Great Filter awaits us.
 

HomerJS

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I have tried to no longer be shocked or surprised by America's Nazi Germany imitation here... but JFC Roberts...
Really, SCOTUS is disposing of all law and just anointing an Emperor. And they think them and their loved ones will somehow survive the civil war to follow.

If humanity is this stupid, we are already well and truly cooked. The Great Filter awaits us.
Does this mean if a Democrat wins in 2028 he can start firing Republicans federal judges? After all rule of law doesn’t matter. Also fire SCOTUS justices with the DOJ enforcing
 

Pens1566

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Ss SCOTUS almost always rules in his favor, or he just ignores the times they don't. Couple that with a congress that does nothing but wash his balls.

Not advocating for it, but I can entirely understand when the inevitable response to this utter tyranny comes in the form of someone donating high speed freedom seeds to those that have betrayed their oath to the constitution.
 

IronWing

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I have tried to no longer be shocked or surprised by America's Nazi Germany imitation here... but JFC Roberts...
Really, SCOTUS is disposing of all law and just anointing an Emperor. And they think them and their loved ones will somehow survive the civil war to follow.

If humanity is this stupid, we are already well and truly cooked. The Great Filter awaits us.
We knew what Roberts was when Mitch's donors selected him for the court. The Senate knew what he was when they confirmed him.
 
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hal2kilo

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Does this mean if a Democrat wins in 2028 he can start firing Republicans federal judges? After all rule of law doesn’t matter. Also fire SCOTUS justices with the DOJ enforcing
Funny, that been in my mind as well. It's Calvinball 24/7.
 

BoomerD

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Does this mean if a Democrat wins in 2028 he can start firing Republicans federal judges? After all rule of law doesn’t matter. Also fire SCOTUS justices with the DOJ enforcing
Just arrest them for treason, hold a sham trial, execute them. After all, the SCOTUS basically said the POTUS csn do whatever he wants with impunity.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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Guess the only reasonable recourse at this point for the next Dem president is court packing.

I've heard some really good ideas on reforming the court, my favorite has been 13 federal circuits = 13 supremes, Supremes must come from each one of the federal circuits (so they have an established history of decisions behind them) and are cycled down to the circuit once their term is up (which is technically in compliance with the constitution as they are not being "removed") but that seems too complicated to actually pull off. Turns the whole thing into an actual job instead of whatever the fuck it is right now.

A more functional solution I've read is that each President gets 4 Supreme court picks no matter what. This would naturally cause the court to balloon in size for a few presidential cycles until the retirements equalize with the onboardings. This not only dilutes the power of each supreme, but also eliminates the whole "tactical retirement" element of Supremes negotiating their successor with a friendly Administration. This wouldn't even technically require any new laws, just a friendly Senate moving confirmation hearings along at a steady clip.
 

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Guess the only reasonable recourse at this point for the next Dem president is court packing.

I've heard some really good ideas on reforming the court, my favorite has been 13 federal circuits = 13 supremes, Supremes must come from each one of the federal circuits (so they have an established history of decisions behind them) and are cycled down to the circuit once their term is up (which is technically in compliance with the constitution as they are not being "removed") but that seems too complicated to actually pull off. Turns the whole thing into an actual job instead of whatever the fuck it is right now.

A more functional solution I've read is that each President gets 4 Supreme court picks no matter what. This would naturally cause the court to balloon in size for a few presidential cycles until the retirements equalize with the onboardings. This not only dilutes the power of each supreme, but also eliminates the whole "tactical retirement" element of Supremes negotiating their successor with a friendly Administration. This wouldn't even technically require any new laws, just a friendly Senate moving confirmation hearings along at a steady clip.

Packing is a prerequisite to reforming the court(s) of course. Because this court will just say whatever reforms congress might pass are unconstitutional. Have to get rid of that single judge district nonsense that's happing in TX too.
 

HomerJS

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Other reforms...

End of justices choosing their cases. DO it by independant panel below them so pretetermined outcomes are avoided.

End shadow dockets. Each decision must be followed by an explination and dissent if applicable. Emergency hearing does obviate accountability.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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Other reforms...

End of justices choosing their cases. DO it by independant panel below them so pretetermined outcomes are avoided.
- Not sure how this would work. I'm not generally pro-bureaucracy and if there is another panel below the judges that determines what cases are seen or not... doesn't the corruption and power just flow to them? Want a lower court ruling to stand? Supremes' don't get to see the case. Want a lower court ruling to potentially be over turned? Funnel to the Supremes' so it has another chance in the sun.

End shadow dockets. Each decision must be followed by an explination and dissent if applicable. Emergency hearing does obviate accountability.

- I'm 100% on board with this. All rulings need to have a written opinion attached. I don't have an issue with quick turn-arounds for emergency situations, but there 100% needs to be a written opinion from each judge explaining their vote.
 
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iRONic

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Ss SCOTUS almost always rules in his favor, or he just ignores the times they don't. Couple that with a congress that does nothing but wash his balls.
Current opinion piece addressing exactly that:

*snip*
In ruling for Trump, the chief justice, John Roberts, and the other conservatives have let him gut the Department of Education, fire Federal Trade Commission and National Labor Relations Board members, and strip temporary protected status from hundreds of thousands of immigrants. The rightwing supermajority has also let Trump halt $4bn in foreign aid, fire tens of thousands of federal employees despite contractual protections and deport people to countrieswhere they have no connection.

Why does the supreme court keep bending the knee to Trump? | Steven Greenhouse | The Guardian
 

HomerJS

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Current opinion piece addressing exactly that:

*snip*
In ruling for Trump, the chief justice, John Roberts, and the other conservatives have let him gut the Department of Education, fire Federal Trade Commission and National Labor Relations Board members, and strip temporary protected status from hundreds of thousands of immigrants. The rightwing supermajority has also let Trump halt $4bn in foreign aid, fire tens of thousands of federal employees despite contractual protections and deport people to countrieswhere they have no connection.

Why does the supreme court keep bending the knee to Trump? | Steven Greenhouse | The Guardian
The conservative justices have increasingly embraced the unitary executive theory, a once fringe, four-decade-old notion that the president has sole, unlimited authority over the executive branch and should, for instance, be free to fire members of independent agencies along with hundreds of thousands of federal employees. “If they really believed that Trump was a threat to democracy, they wouldn’t be giving him so much power,” Levitsky said.

Of course if we ever get a Democrat POTUS this court would Calvinball a reversal of everything they did under Trump.
 
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