Cure for Diabetes found by Canadian Scientists (in Mice)

[Fritzo]

Acording to Star Trek IV, diabetes is cured by swallowing a small device carried around in Dr. McCoy's bag.

 

[Dubb]

I've been a type I diabetic for almost 10 years. For the whole time, things like this keep popping up here and there, and everyone becomes convinced that a cure is "10-15 years off". My endo tells me this every 6 months. it's been "10-15 years off" through about two dozen supposed "breakthroughs" over the whole 10 year period, and I don't really ever expect that to change.

However...there've been dozens of breakthroughs in diabetes maintenence...virtualy all of which were on the market in a couple years. synthetic amalin, Dexcom, new pumps, a half dozen type II drugs...

Call me cynical. it's depressing and angering, but Maintenence is far more proffitable than cure. you could charge a million bucks per cure, and a really helpful Maintenence development is still way more valuable, especially when you consider that alot of pharm/medical supply companies have a big hand in maintenence that they probably don't want suddenly wiped out. And it won't be a new company that does it either - you make a bizziollion dollars the first year, and then what? couple thousand treatments a year? maybe? you'll reduce the market below the point of proffitibility in a few months.

dammit. thinking about this stuff just makes me want to turn into a communist. a really depressed, defeatist communist.


Edit - read the article...seems like bad science to me

- there isn't a mouse model to match the auto-immune component of type I. it seems that all they did was cure a non-existant, simulated disease, or at best, type II alone.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Acording to Star Trek IV, diabetes is cured by swallowing a small device carried around in Dr. McCoy's bag.

No no, that was kidney failure. The old hag needed kidney dialysis and was waiting for a transplant. You see her a little later going: "The doctor gave me a pill and I grew a new kidney!"

🙂

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: Quasmo
What will all those organizations for finding a cure for diabetes do if this is true?

Dance in the damn streeet.

Drink Chocolate Milkshakes

Eat Candy Canes

Devour Cookies and Cake.

Drink a Bloody Mary with a Beer Chaser.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: Dubb
I've been a type I diabetic for almost 10 years. For the whole time, things like this keep popping up here and there, and everyone becomes convinced that a cure is "10-15 years off". My endo tells me this every 6 months. it's been "10-15 years off" through about two dozen supposed "breakthroughs" over the whole 10 year period, and I don't really ever expect that to change.

However...there've been dozens of breakthroughs in diabetes maintenence...virtualy all of which were on the market in a couple years. synthetic amalin, Dexcom, new pumps, a half dozen type II drugs...

Call me cynical. it's depressing and angering, but Maintenence is far more proffitable than cure. you could charge a million bucks per cure, and a really helpful Maintenence development is still way more valuable, especially when you consider that alot of pharm/medical supply companies have a big hand in maintenence that they probably don't want suddenly wiped out. And it won't be a new company that does it either - you make a bizziollion dollars the first year, and then what? couple thousand treatments a year? maybe? you'll reduce the market below the point of proffitibility in a few months.

dammit. thinking about this stuff just makes me want to turn into a communist. a really depressed, defeatist communist.


Edit - read the article...seems like bad science to me

- there isn't a mouse model to match the auto-immune component of type I. it seems that all they did was cure a non-existant, simulated disease, or at best, type II alone.

This may not be "THEE" cure. But I think it leads scientists down a path that may make it closer.

 

[Kanalua]

Too late for my Brother...

Just over 5 years gone...

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
We won't hear any more of this ever again, because cures are bad business.

So true.

 

[GoPackGo]

This isnt a complete cure...sounds like if it works, you will still have to get injected every few months or so.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Dubb
I've been a type I diabetic for almost 10 years. For the whole time, things like this keep popping up here and there, and everyone becomes convinced that a cure is "10-15 years off". My endo tells me this every 6 months. it's been "10-15 years off" through about two dozen supposed "breakthroughs" over the whole 10 year period, and I don't really ever expect that to change.

However...there've been dozens of breakthroughs in diabetes maintenence...virtualy all of which were on the market in a couple years. synthetic amalin, Dexcom, new pumps, a half dozen type II drugs...

Call me cynical. it's depressing and angering, but Maintenence is far more proffitable than cure. you could charge a million bucks per cure, and a really helpful Maintenence development is still way more valuable, especially when you consider that alot of pharm/medical supply companies have a big hand in maintenence that they probably don't want suddenly wiped out. And it won't be a new company that does it either - you make a bizziollion dollars the first year, and then what? couple thousand treatments a year? maybe? you'll reduce the market below the point of proffitibility in a few months.

dammit. thinking about this stuff just makes me want to turn into a communist. a really depressed, defeatist communist.


Edit - read the article...seems like bad science to me

- there isn't a mouse model to match the auto-immune component of type I. it seems that all they did was cure a non-existant, simulated disease, or at best, type II alone.

You seem to think it's easy to come up with a cure. Why don't you do it yourself?

 

[Freejack2]

Because it requires continuing injections it may have a chance, however this may not be Johnny Mnemonic but pharmaceutical companies have a vested interest in keeping the status quo. If this does work out and looks like it has a chance of working imagine some drug company taking the scientists under their wing. Paying them fat salaries and promises to someday bring the drug to market. They get exclusive rights to it and then bury it. The scientists with their fat salaries end up looking the other way and work on maintenance products for diabetes instead of cures.
Meanwhile people like my mother die of diabetes.

 

[SirStev0]

As far as the causes of type 1 and type 2 diabetes this cure can not be possible.
I call shens... no way this can be right, firstly they extremely oversimplify what we know about the causes...
Type 1 diabetes is an immune disease where the insulin precursors or insulin itself produced by the body is destroyed by the immune system.
Type 2 diabetes is caused by receptors in cells becoming less responsive to increased insulin levels.

No way fixing some nerve makes this better. We know with type 2 diabetes that insulin regiments do nothing to counter the disease, the people with the disease do make insulin, it is just unaffective in facultating the uptake of gluclose into a cell.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Freejack2
Because it requires continuing injections it may have a chance, however this may not be Johnny Mnemonic but pharmaceutical companies have a vested interest in keeping the status quo. If this does work out and looks like it has a chance of working imagine some drug company taking the scientists under their wing. Paying them fat salaries and promises to someday bring the drug to market. They get exclusive rights to it and then bury it. The scientists with their fat salaries end up looking the other way and work on maintenance products for diabetes instead of cures.
Meanwhile people like my mother die of diabetes.

You should come up with a cure yourself then. You have all the motivation you could need, what's stopping you?

Two friends of mine work on diabetes, neither make a penny off of selling insulin to diabetics. They are both funded by non-profit organizations.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: 0
incredible if true.

 

[DarkKnight69]

Originally posted by: jakedeez
Okay - so this is good news.

Diabetic mice became healthy virtually overnight after researchers injected a substance to counteract the effect of malfunctioning pain neurons in the pancreas.

"I couldn't believe it," said Dr. Michael Salter, a pain expert at the Hospital for Sick Children and one of the scientists. "Mice with diabetes suddenly didn't have diabetes any more."

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you could at least spell canada right...