CUDA performance on premiere CS5!!! The revolution is here!

Cattykit

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Check out the post I wrote on Video Card section.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=29691313#post29691313

Too bad Fermi is getting trashed among hardware sites and gamers. Due to the fact its appeal is terrible in the gaming market, I think nVidia will try to cash in the video market. After all, nVidia is the pioneer in the video market and it's a blue-ocean where competition does not exist.

So far, only below mentioned cards are currently supported:

* GeForce GTX 285 (Windows and Mac OS)
* Quadro FX 3800 (Windows)
* Quadro FX 4800 (Windows and Mac OS)
* Quadro FX 5800 (Windows)
* Quadro CX

However, Adobe mentioned that they are "planning to support additional cards in the future, including some of the new NVIDIA solutions based on the upcoming Fermi parallel computing architecture."
Keep it mind there's limitation set on GTX 285: only 3 tracks on timeline are CUDA supported. Fermit will, I bet, be supported fully. Given the limitation set on GTX 285, the future of other cheap GPUs being supported look somewhat gloomy. If they want to cash-in with Fermi, they will limit and limit other cards, I foresee.

Notheless, this is a revolution and a great step toward a great future. I have high hopes!
 
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Kaido

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Yeah, I'm really excited to see how OS X's implementation of GPU-as-CPU performance (OpenCL) will go. I'd love to have 240 cores working for me in Photoshop :D
 
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I am 90% done with my AVCHD machine build and I will be using Premier Pro CS4 (windows 64 Vista). The last thing I need is a video card.

I need a vid card suggestion. I don't think i'll be going with a Quadro, would the 470 work on PP CS4?
 

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I am 90% done with my AVCHD machine build and I will be using Premier Pro CS4 (windows 64 Vista). The last thing I need is a video card.

I need a vid card suggestion. I don't think i'll be going with a Quadro, would the 470 work on PP CS4?

Every cards will work equally on CS4.
Though CS5 does not officially support 470 (Product isn't even officially out yet,) I'm 99.9999% positive 470 will be supported by CS5.

BTW, why CS4? As I mentioned, even without Mercury Engine, CS5 feels far more smooth and faster compared to CS4.
 
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BTW, why CS4? As I mentioned, even without Mercury Engine, CS5 feels far more smooth and faster compared to CS4.

I initially built the machine around a Yorkfield (775 quad) platform and that's when I bought PP CS4. Why? Is there a cheap upgrade for CS4 PP buyers?
 

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I initially built the machine around a Yorkfield (775 quad) platform and that's when I bought PP CS4. Why? Is there a cheap upgrade for CS4 PP buyers?

What kind of files will you be handling?
Yorkfield won't cut it if you're going to be dealing with Canon dslr video files. I had to upgrade to I7 860 @ 3.6ghz from Q6600 @ 3.2 because with Q6600, editing was near impossible and encoding took way too much time. However, with CS5 and GPUs that it support, such problem wouldn't exist.
As for cheap upgrade: I don't know. But, I think you should really go for CS5 because the difference is just huge even wihout help from GPU side.
 
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I have a Canon HF S100, which I think puts out mt2 files. After I wasn't able to get a smooth high quality playback, i put aside the idea until I said I'd build an i7 to do so (which is currently rig2 in my sig)

Doesn't Adobe offer a cheap upgrade for CS4 buyers to PP CS5?
 

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I have a Canon HF S100, which I think puts out mt2 files. After I wasn't able to get a smooth high quality playback, i put aside the idea until I said I'd build an i7 to do so (which is currently rig2 in my sig)

Doesn't Adobe offer a cheap upgrade for CS4 buyers to PP CS5?

"cheap" is relative =) It's $600 for Production Premium. Or $300 for Premiere on it's own... not sure what the "PP" referred to in your post.
 

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For the record, Pinnacle Systems and ATI were the first to implement the GPU as a video processor for effects transcoding and playback of non-rendered effects back with the ATI8500 chipset. These are the logical next generations. Avid just killed the NextGen for Pinnacle Liquid which was being engineered around the DirectX 10 engine, so we will never see where they got to on the ATI side.

Considering that Avid supports the 3700 in Media Composer 4.5 and 5.0, I suspect that it will support Mercury. And there is a good market for 3700's and decent prices. So that is a cheaper option for a Quadro with great support (it is DX10 too). Avid's requirements for advanced effects seem to be stuck in step with Mercury. With their relationships with the graphics vendors, you can expect they have the inside track. It takes serious horsepower to build a 3D movie in an editor in 10bit color 2.35:1, there are big bucks riding on it working as expected.
 

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"cheap" is relative =) It's $600 for Production Premium. Or $300 for Premiere on it's own... not sure what the "PP" referred to in your post.
No kidding! I am going to jump at a $495 upgrade to Avid Media Composer. Because it is cheap! Holding onto your socks? $2495 is the base price. Avid killed Xpress Pro and now Liquid, but generously offered both communities a sweet conversion deal.
 

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i'm excited about picking up cs5. i have production, but don't use premiere. i use fcp, but production is cheaper then getting photoshop and after effects on their own.

i haven't been sold on media composer. thats a great deal they are offering to upgrade from xpress, but i haven't been happy with their past products and don't expect 5 to wow me. i'll try it when it comes out, but when 4 came out, i tried and still wanted something better from avid.
however, on a pc, it's hard to beat.
 

theblackbox

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and i've been waiting to see what my 285 can do cuda wise, besides console benchmarks with cuda.
funny, offloading the work from 8 cores to a whole bunch more, it will be interesting.
 

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if adobe hurries up and gets CS5 out to the campus computer store i *may* take advantage of my sister's discount to get it for like $500. yeah, still a ton of cash but fairly awesome. i'd do the same with LR3 but i doubt it'll be out.