Prize-Winning Cuban Scientist Denied Visa
Wow! Maybe the terrorists are using Cuban scientists as jihad virus hosts to infect the US populous :roll:
Cuban scientist =! terrorist.
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Prize-Winning Cuban Scientist Denied Visa
Whoozyerdaddy
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The US doesn't seem to be interested in any relation with Cuba and demonstrates this on many occasions. I remember the denied help offer after Kathrina (to be fair, Cuba also denied American help after hurricanes). It looks like Cold War-ish behavior and reflexes to me but maybe I'm missing something. I wonder if the US will end their trade boycot when Castro dies but Cuba doesn't become a democracy instantly?
Well, considering the leader of Cuba allowed the USSR to position nukes pointed at US cities right off our shores, I can understand the reluctance to cozy up with him.
Of course a visit by this guy is "Detrimental to the interests of the United States".....didn't you read the article?
This administration has no need for science when they have the abundance of faith that they do!
Former Sowjet Russia was in the same situation with Turkey being a base for rockets pointed at them, yet they never forbid trade and installed normal relations after the Cold War.
Why shouldn't the US follow this example? And if you don't agree with my analogy: Somebody always has to make the first step. Also I'm not sure how propositions and sanctions are balanced in the US behavior towards Cuba.
Whoozyerdaddy
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Wow... only five posts to bring this down to the "All Republicans are stupid ID advocates who run from science" mantra. :roll:
This is a non-story. The US has had travel sanctions in place against Cuba for decades. This is nothing new. He's not the first guy from Cuba to be denied entry to the US. He won't be the last.
True. If not for the reason I mentioned, I can't see why normal relations would not be restored, except perhaps to send a message that we have a long memory... not sure whether that's a good or bad policy.
It is because of all the Rich Cubans who moved here when Castro kicked them out. They hold sway over politicians because of their money, just like any other lobby group.
During the 1960's it wasn't only rich families that came over infact many rich families stayed in hope they would keep what they had but it never happened.This policy on Cuba has been around since the failed mission at la playa de Giron(Bay of Pigs) in which Kennedy rounded up Cuban's in Miami to fight.After the blunder he established travel ban and embargo and no Dem or Rep has done anything against it.Infact Helms-Burton was added during Clinton's time as president.
The reasons today for keeping the bans are different than the reasons in the Cold War.
It is no longer a real issue of foreign policy, but a domestic issue of getting votes. The politicians do not want to lose the money and votes of people in Florida, which is a key state during elections.
That is true also no politician will do anything until the Castro regime falls.Many politicians now wan't to remove the wetfoot/dryfoot policy Clinton established.Being a Cuban and having left Cuba during the early-mid 90's I can tell you Castro doesn't care about relations with the US he just likes using the embargo to influence the masses in his multiple speeches.
US policy towards Cuba is fundamentally retarded and unprincipled. As opposed to Castro's policies which are just plain retarded.
On a related note, Bush43 has been the worst President for science since Grant . . . I'm assuming Grant was still drinking while in office.
On a related note, Bush43 has been the worst President for science since Grant . . . I'm assuming Grant was still drinking while in office.
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perhaps bush never really quit drinking. maybes hes just been 5 year drinking binge. ever see the episode of SNL(or maybe mad tv) where the guy wakes up after 3 years of heavy drinking and finds out hes the president?
Castro may be a jackass like that, but I think the U.S. would have much to gain by opening doors to the country. In fact, I think that the bans the U.S. puts in place help keep Castro in power.
The bans don't keep Castro in place while the man is a jackass he certainly knows how to rule the country with an iron fist.Public dissident and etc... are tightly controlled plus his relationship with Hugo Chavez has given him more economic help.The embargo just allows Castro to keep his trash talk up but than again when hasn't he talked crap.I won't defend the embargo but it is not a reason he maintains power.
This is one if the dumbest remarks I've yet to see (not that expected much from you). First, how is that medical scientist related to the USSR nukes? And second, I can't believe you're not aware that we had hundreds of nukes positioned in Turkey and a few countries in the area. The USSR wanted parity and more or less got it.
But I wasn't talking about the scientist, we were talking about Castro. And I am aware of the missiles we had in Turkey
Who are you again?
Who are you again?
This "We" you speak of does have short memory. "We" have forgotten that the Bay of Pigs precipitated the Missile Crisis. "We" have forgotten that anti-Castro actiivists were as likely to be car bombed as Castro sympathizers, Emilio Milian for example.
This "We" has forgotten that the Cuban exiles in Miami are crucial to getting Bushes elected. "We forgot that while travel to any communist country in the world was possible, Cuba was offlimits, esecially since GW Bush took office. One exception, the exiles can return to Cuba and take tons of money with them.
This "We" can't forget something that it never learned.
We can't allow the possibility of a reknowned scientist to defect from Cuba by allowing him entry. This shows Castro we are tough on communism. For 45 years, "We" have been tough on Castro's communist Cuba.
45 years and mostly under republican administrations, the US has been defying Castro.
Obviously, the policies are sound.
That reknowned scientist would not be able to defect he's family will surely suffer hardship for it.Dr. Hilda Molina who is far more reknowned in Cuba as the top neurosurgeon and pioneer of stem cells in Cuba was not allowed to visit her son in Argentina for fear she would defect.While the US has denied Verez-Bencomo entry I seriously have to wonder why Castro would allow him out but I feel he wouldn't be allowed alone to the US.
Emilio Milian's case was horrible indeed he was outspoken against Communism and Castro but spoke out against those who used terror to bring democracy in Cuba.Of course those same people he spoke out against tried to silence him.He was a popular figure to Cuban Exiles just some random bad seeds tried taking him out and eventually in the case they found Hernandez Cartaya involved which the FBI considered a Cuban Spy.Very interesting case thats for sure.
There is one sure way to find out if Verez Bencomo would defect, allow entry to the US. At least he doesn't have the terrorist record of an Orlando Bosch, Hector Cornillot or Luis Posada Carillas.
Hernandez Cartaya was CIA. If the FBI considered him a spy for Cuba then look to "company" for making that happen.
I wonder how long before Carillas is back in Miami.
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