**~~CS Tactics/General Help for Newbies! HELP NEEDED FROM THE VETERANS!!!

BiggieN

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i heard that since headshots are one shot kills, i should not get the helmet. is this true or is my friend screwing with me?
What's the command for map lists and player lists so that i can see the numbers?

LordMaul mentioned nightvision in the other CS thread. should i ever bother with nightvision? i've never tried it out nor seen it in action.

any other little tricks or tips you wanna share with newbies?
 

Vicken

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i heard that since headshots are one shot kills, i should not get the helmet. is this true or is my friend screwing with me?

Headshots are one shot one kill. Helmets only help with the grenades. They will not protect you with any sort of bullet. However, kevlar does help except for certain guns will penetrate it. I believe the rifles will penetrate. Kevlar can prevent 10 to 15 points of damage per bullet when hit. Kevlar also protects against grenades majorly.

What's the command for map lists and player lists so that i can see the numbers?

Don't know.

LordMaul mentioned nightvision in the other CS thread. should i ever bother with nightvision? i've never tried it out nor seen it in action.

Nightvision to me is worthless and expensive. None of the maps have areas where you cannot totally see anything. However, others may have a different opinion.

 

gUEv

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to listmaps type...listmaps in console
and to list players type...oh i dunno....listplayers :p
kevlar with a helmet wont potect you that much more, i wouldn't suggest buying it unless you are owning and have more then enough money to spare.
Nightvision doesn't do much for me personally, although ive heard its better/worse on certain video cards. Again, its nice to have if you have a lot of extra money....i guess

and now...HOW TO BECOME A |337 CS player in 4 easy steps:

1)Crouch...all the goddamn time.
2)As a newbie, i mainly used the mp5, as you can sorta go full auto at close range. When i got the hang of the game, i graduated to the colt and ak. When using rifles, you need to learn self control. When someone is running at you you will want to simply hold down the trigger, but you need to learn to click it in burts, aiming for the head.
3)Never, ever, ever be the pointman (the guy who goes first). Those who go first, die first. Let your "buddy" go in front of you. That way, you can tell where the enemy is by which way the bullets penetrate his body.
4)Get broadband. CS is not a modem-friendly game. If you are going to play with newbies all the time, thats cool, but if you want to play with the pros, any ping over 150 will make it a lot harder.

...nobody told me the at server ip and password :(
 

Tonec

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Here are some general tactics that might help
-mp5 + vest for hectic rushing rounds, keep moving and strafe with 7-8 round burst to the upper body
-aug/sig for standoff type rounds, crouch and fire 2-3 round bursts, see too many people firing until they run out of ammo and not hit a thing

My opinion on armour is that is only useful against non rifle weapons at long range. Save your money for better rifles unless you have around 7,000 surpluss. As a newbie don't be the one to lead the rush, hang behind 3-4 people and practice zooming w/rifles while others draw fire. Experienced lpbs can lead a rush and take on 3-4 at once.
 

loogie

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3)Never, ever, ever be the pointman (the guy who goes first). Those who go first, die first. Let your "buddy" go in front of you. That way, you can tell where the enemy is by which way the bullets penetrate his body.

.....

...nobody told me the at server ip and password

I hope that they don't, considering the above comment.
 

gUEv

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apparently facetious comments are too advanced for some of our readers ;)
do you like dying? do you find exhilaration in being a spectator? I don't, oddly. I would like to stay alive for as long as possible, as well as killing the most enemies i can. Through use of that tactic, i find I do quite well at cs. If you like to die in 30 seconds, then have to listen to people going "WTF?!" "BS!!" or other such intelligent comments, be my guest. I however, will choose to stay alive and 0wn
:)
 

MISTER 2 U

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I am a newbie also I find the maps dark in general.
I do use the NV gog.on the map were the T's are assembling the bomb and you are
in a large garage? it makes a big difference on that map.
I have my gamma all the way up and have adjusted my brightness on monitor.

I was wondering if you can load BOTS to practice with????
 

perry

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The kevlar helmet will help protect if for some reason someone is firing at your with a pistol. It'll give you time to swing around and blow them away with your more powerful gun. Otherwise, somewhat useless.

There aren't too many maps where NV helps, at least not too on Neo's server. I've found it helps alot in certain areas on 747, like the jetway leading up to the front of the plane. It works just fine on my GeForce2 MX...
 

bcterps

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I am by no means a veteran, but I've picked up some tips here and there.

If you have to use a pistol, the Desert Eagle is probably the best one, extremely powerful, and decent accuracy. If your a T, using the dual Barettas looks cool, but its damn inaccurate.

Almost all weapons are pretty accurate if you fire in bursts. You can snipe pretty darn well with the AK47 hehe.

Learn how to go down ladders! I'm still gettin the hang of it hehe, you'd be suprised how many times people kill themselves by falling off ladders.

You can jump from any distance and land in water and not get hurt.

Some people like to jump around a lot (Thin Spirit), it does make it harder for someone to shoot you, but your accuracy drops a lot.

--Ben

Learn how to WALK instead of running around like a headless chicken. You will be able to sneak up on people a lot easier that way.
 

perry

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Learn to listen to footsteps and the sound that people make when they climb ladders. If you hear them, stop moving and listen to see if they are getting closer. Crouch and wait for them to come around a corner. If you get the first shot off, you will generally win the battle. It'll take them a little time to train their gun on you, and in that time you have already put your first burst of bullets in their chest.

Deagle is good for power, but when someone is dancing around it's hard to hit them, same if you are dancing around. You'll have to reload, and when that happens in a fire fight your ass is grass. I'm learning to like the P228 or whatever it is called. 13 bullets in the chamber instead of 7 and a decent stopping power. But the USP is pretty powerful itself. I like to use it with the silencer off though.

The dual berretas is suck. Stopping power of a bb gun it seems. Only nice because it has lots of bullets.

Look for muzzle blasts shooting at your teammate and aim for the muzzle blast if the enemy is in the shadows and you can't see them. Never stand still, keep moving around. My aim still kinda sucks so I can't jump and dance around like a chicken with it's head cut off as I'm shooting at someone. I'm getting better at strafing (walking sideways and shooting), but still suck at it if the other person is doing the same.
 

AndrewR

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Head hits are one shot, one kill IF YOU DON'T HAVE A HELMET. Considering that the MP5 uses pistol ammo as does the UMP45, Mac-10, and TMP, there are 8+ weapons that will kill you with one headshot if you aren't wearing a helmet. Check the stats somewhere on the net where they did a detailed investigation of damage inflicted by weapons for normal and headshots and with and without armor. I cannot remember where I saw it, but I believe it was linked off of the main CS site. It's only $350 for a helmet -- hardly a tremendous hardship.

Nightvision is only useful on some maps that are quite dark. The one that comes to mind first is Militia in the sewer if the CTs turn the lights out. The worst part about NV is the noise it makes when turning it on -- gives away your position. Some people use it because of lag issues, I've heard.

perry makes an important point that I really hope people who aren't on my team will ignore. WALK. How simple is that? I see (and hear) so many people running around making gobs of noise that it's ridiculous. Knowing where the enemy is wins the match. If you hear someone around a corner, pull out a grenade and either blind them or blast them. Or jump into the corridor and hit them before they know what's happening. Or wait in ambush until they walk past. Never underestimate the benefits of surprise.

One final strategy which falls under the "Oh yeah" category -- don't forget that when you run out of ammo with your main weapon, you have a pistol with a full clip ready to go. I see so many people dying in a firefight with someone else because they stop to reload their main gun instead of pulling out the pistol. While they are inserting a new magazine, their opponent whips out a pistol and kills them. Failing that, since you're likely VERY close at this point, pull out your knife and stab them. Knife kills are so humiliating. :D

Speaking of pistols, all of them have their advantages and disadvantages, and ALL can be used effectively if you know those characteristics. The deagle is nice for power, but if your opponent misses with their first volley (or you catch them after they have killed your teammate), the low magazine capacity is a severe detriment. USP is nice for power and ammo capacity, but the rate of fire is relatively low since each shot throws off your aim. The Glock is great because of the high capacity and high accuracy, but it's damage is very low. The SIG is nearly the same as the USP though with better accuracy but lower power. The Elites are able to pump a load of ammo downrange, but they are inaccurate and have a very slow reload. The Five-seveN has high ammo capacity, fair accuracy, but low power. Generally speaking, every weapon can be used effectively depending on the circumstances (well, maybe not the TMP :) ), but you just have to learn what those circumstances are and work the map well enough to put yourself in the situations where the weapon you have is most effective.
 

perry

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And check out the counter-strike.net forums, probably get a whole lot more advice there than here.. I'll read through the newbies forum every now and then to try and pick up my tips. Alot of "excess noise in the channel", as my 10th grade english teacher would say, but you can pick through it and pick up good tips.
 

BoberFett

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If you're ever playing and hear a kind of a "clunk" sound, you know that a helmet just saved somebody's @ss. Well, not their @ss, their head, but you know what I'm saying. ;)

If I have the money, I always buy Kevlar+Helmet. An AWP shot will still be an instant kill, but in a close firefight between two people of equal skill the one wearing body armor will walk away. The one without it won't.

I've never bought nightvision.

I have two big tips.

1. Learn the maps. Know every nook and cranny.

2. Learn to use sound to your advantage. Walk to be silent, I can't tell you how many newbies I kill because they're always stomping around and know exactly when they're going to pop around a corner.
 

BiggieN

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Here's a super newbie question: how do i walk? just crouch and go forward? or is there a walk/run button that toggels between the 2?
 

konichiwa

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There's a walk buton, and if you ask me it is one of the most important buttons in the game. If you know an enemy is right around a corner, walk. WHEN IN DOUBT, WALK! -- it will save your life countless times.

Also, when you're climbing up a ladder, CROUCH and climb. It will make the noise of climbing the ladder almost silent and you are not slowed down. Experienced players will stand on a corner when they know the enemy is on the other side and wait to hear footsteps. Right when the enemy is about to turn the corner, you jump out and start firing as soon as you see him. This makes you more likely to get a headshot, considering you're above him. Excellent strategy for close range.

Most guns' recoil sends the bullets flying straight upwards. This is especially true for the SIG and the Colt M4A1. So if you're using those guns, fire two- or three-round bursts at the upper chest/shoulders of the enemy. Your recoil will go straight up and you'll get headshots all the time. After you do this for awhile you will develop enough accuracy to be able to automatically flick your mouse to that position whenever you see someone and they'll be dead in 2-3 shots. A lot of times on servers people always either ask me how I get so many headshots or accuse me of cheating. This is how. I always use colt.

As a general rule, double- and triple-tapping or bursting is the best strategy. With most guns, excepting maybe the smaller SMG's, they become incredibly innacurate after two or three successive shots. For instance, try full-auto'ing the AUG. It sprays EVERYWHERE. That's no good.

If you feel that you need to use more than two or three shots at a time, CROUCH. It lets you fire off an extra two or three shots without losing accuracy. If you see an enemy at long range, it's almost always best to crouch because it increases your accuracy just enough to kill him from all the way across Jeepathon.

I never buy Kevlar. I find that it's pointless, and a waste of my hard-earned money. Nightvision, on the other hand, can be very useful. For instance, in Militia. It's best, if you're a CT and you're taking the tunnel-route, to leave the lights off and catch the Terorists off guard. You won't be able to see anything unless you have Nightvision. There isn't many instances where it is useful, however. Only a select few.

As far as pistols go...I tend to like either the Desert Eagle or the Five-Seven (CT only). The DE is incredibly powerful, but it fires very slowly so you have to get the first shot on target or you'll be killed. The Five-Seven is incredibly fast and although it's not very powerful, you can run up to an enemy and STRAFE around them in a complete circle firing your Five-Seven and so long as you get tbhe majority of them on-target you'll have a clean kill.
 

perry

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Is it possible to change the color of the zoomed crosshair.. Like with the AUG zoom.. I know how to change the normal crosshair. Would really help out on dust and all the rats maps. Zooming in with that tiny yellow crosshair on a white background makes it hard to see where I'm aiming. I get killed lots of times because of that. I have to zoom back out to use the normal colored crosshair to see where I'm shooting (person moves around after the first shot and I can't reaim) and get killed in the meantime. Sucks.
 

Shack70

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I would definatly get the kevlar and helmet, get the machine gun to start out if you can too! Load up on ammo and don't forget a defusal kit on bomb maps if you are a CT!

gUEv if you need the IP and password, contact Neotechman. He runs the server
:D
 

Killrose

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I agree, don't be the first into the combat zone. And don't rush in by yourself with a grenade. I do that constantly and get killed constantly. I always buy helmet&kelvar, obviously it does have some value, I have survived a lot of game rounds with 05 health left.
If you have a poor internet connection or pings above 250 don't buy anykind of sniper rifle, your target will move before you actually know they moved. I play with a 56k modem, my pings are constantly in the 325+
range, and I have killed more players with the mp5 than anything else, but you have to be fairly close in and use short bursts aimed at the upper torso (the "T" as it's known) and hope you get a head shot. Also change your route after each round, people seem to like to run for the same spot each time. I like the kraig if i'm a terrorist and have enough funds to also by armor, it's accurate with the scope and short burst at fairly long range. The AK is great at close range as well.