CryTek President: PC Gaming "Held Back" By Consoles

[TechBoyJK]

meh.. smaller MP maps, more efficient engine than CE2 (crysis1). i don't think it will be that bad honestly

 

[CVSiN]

I'd love to see the gaming rig that runs GT5 at full settings (really).

please... GT5 is just a console game..

any modern single card multicore win7 game box could easily run better than the PS3 can at 4x the texture level.

don't even get me started on a monster SLI/Crossfire rig with an i7 in it.

PS3/360 is old tech now.. 4 generations of PC equipment old..

 

[BoberFett]

Now why is he saying this? Because this is a team that made a boring generic shooter with massive hardware requirements for the PC that nobody bought. So now they are trying to blame their own failure to make an interesting game on somebody else. Granted, the new engine is supposed to be flexible for this but I'm betting they have had a few discussions that went "wouldn't this be so easy if people just had decent fucking hardware?"

Fixed.

 

[Smartazz]

I don't get why there was so much hate for Crysis. I thought the gameplay was great in SP and the graphics were great even on all high. The game did pretty well critically if I'm not mistaken.

 

[digitaldurandal]

That's just not true. PC hardware is holding PC gaming back. A 480 gtx isnt enough to play many PC games @ 1080P 60fps. If graphics leaped ahead we would all be playing slide shows or turning the settings down to low/med.

What game will a 480 gtx not play @ 1080p?

 

[zerocool84]

What game will a 480 gtx not play @ 1080p?

Metro DX11 Full Tessellation even without AA it'd have a very difficult time doing 50fps let alone 60.

 

[Smartazz]

Metro DX11 Full Tessellation even without AA it'd have a very difficult time doing 50fps let alone 60.

Im sure to some people it'd be at least playable. Not everyone needs 60fps to play comfortably. I know people who are unbothered even in the 20's.

 

[TridenT]

Im sure to some people it'd be at least playable. Not everyone needs 60fps to play comfortably. I know people who are unbothered even in the 20's.

We're not those people.

 

[Dorkenstein]

He just figured this out?

 

[Lonbjerg]

Um, he is doing something about it. CryEngine3 is the only engine that can render games on 3 different systems at the same time.

False, google ID + tech5

Facts are sadly scare and far apart in this thread... :thumbsdown:

 

[Lonbjerg]

I don't get why there was so much hate for Crysis. I thought the gameplay was great in SP and the graphics were great even on all high. The game did pretty well critically if I'm not mistaken.

Because the game broke a LOT of e-peens for gamers...their mighty rig reduced to less than max settings..can be hard on some types of people

 

[Lonbjerg]

Metro DX11 Full Tessellation even without AA it'd have a very difficult time doing 50fps let alone 60.

Not all games needs +60FPS...motion blur killed that "concept".

Guess what Crysis uses a lot of?

 

[Skurge]

Not all games needs +60FPS...motion blur killed that "concept".

Guess what Crysis uses a lot of?

Are you crazy? Motion blur actually makes the game feel slower. Motion blur is the 1st thing people turn of in crysis, metro I would turn it off if there was an individual option for it.

 

[Smartazz]

Are you crazy? Motion blur actually makes the game feel slower. Motion blur is the 1st thing people turn of in crysis, metro I would turn it off if there was an individual option for it.

Gonna have to disagree here. Motion blur compensates for a slower frame rate
Take movies for example, they run at under 30fps yet they look smooth thanks to great motion blur.

 

[Skurge]

Gonna have to disagree here. Motion blur compensates for a slower frame rate
Take movies for example, they run at under 30fps yet they look smooth thanks to great motion blur.

I guess it's a personal taste thing. I don't think you can compare movies to games. Console games that don't have motion blur and run at 30fps also look perfectly smooth, but if a game that's designed to run at 60fps (whatever that means) were to drop to 50fps even with motion blur it would feel much slower.

 

[SolidSnake42]

A good example of being held back on the PC, just look at the quality of the EA NHL games and Black Ops on the PC. Either gameplay, visually, or even marred in the playability aspect. I do believe he is right. Also, have you seen how crappy Crysis 2 looks on the consoles?

 

[TechBoyJK]

False, google ID + tech5

Facts are sadly scare and far apart in this thread... :thumbsdown:

Well.. perhaps I stand corrected.

I knew ID tech 5 could encode games to xbox format, but I didn't know it could do it real-time, as the CryEngine3 does. Crytek has vids of them using the PC to edit a game, and the results being published to an XBOX and PS3 at the same time. Aka, the PC editor could remove a tree and it's instantly removed from what is displayed on the PS3/XBOX.

 

[Lonbjerg]

CCP now also states that consoles holds back games (indirectly)

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=827
Those textures use up a massive amount of video memory, of course. But since we‘re not bounded by console-size memories and have the textures available at this size, and since they compress really well using lossless compression, we decided to go for it, and allow those with the hardware to enjoy it fully. And we‘re not going anywhere - in a few years, this really won‘t seem that much, so no harm in being prepared for the future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_641383&v=g5i_mgF7Vas&feature=iv