Crysis Warhead real laggy, CPU?

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota
as usual you arent listening. I already told you that I didnt use the stock power supply with the 8800gt but you probably know that and figure its more fun to start crap. also yes I said they get the same performance but the exact amount is 1.2 fps difference so is that better? sorry next time I will document everything just for you. why in the hell would I lie about something so damn stupid? if I hadnt tested all this stuff for myself then I wouldnt even have an opinion on it.

Oh really what power supply did you use? How did you fit it in to your HP? You bought and returned bunch of computer parts just to benchmark? You've got some ethics there.

Not my fault you didn't benchmark it correctly as shown by every single website that benchmark Crysis says other wise. Then you blame others for your short comings. :disgust:

why dont you read through the other thread since you like to link to it so much? I told you there and on tr forums exactly what power supply I used.

first I tried the 8800gt but once I had it I couldnt justify the cost of it with the power supply. later I got a PNY 9600gt that ran too loud and had no fan adjustment.

I bought the 4670 which I have now and wasnt really impressed so figured I would try another 9600gt and just sell the 4670 to someone else. this XFX had the noisy as hell cooler from the 6800 series but was going to try to live with it.

My parents wanted a new comp and so I thought about selling them mine and getting that Dell with the E7300. I got the Dell and 9600gt wouldnt fit so that was why it was scratched. I then just went ahead and bought my parents a cheaper Compaq comp so they could have a brand new comp instead of my year and half old one.

of course since I had all this hardware I ran benchmarks to fulfill my curiosity. in the end I obviously kept the 4670. I probably will just build or buy another pc soon so the 4850 is probably what I will go with. thats why I told you that I could go pick one up now.

you always try to twist things I say no matter what. there have been many things that have made blanket statements about that were at least partly wrong but then you try to insult me or or go another way so you dont ever look wrong. thats just your personality I guess.

I have not lied about anything and have no reason to. I sure as hell would not argue with someone if I hadnt done what I said. I actually took a picture of the Dell, 4670 and the 9600gt just in case someone like you questioned me. I could post them here along with copy of the receipt for the Compaq I bought for my parents so let me know if you want proof.

Why the hell should I read every garbage you type? You replied to my post and I replied back. You brought this on yourself toyota and spewing the same garbage you were trying in that other thread which everyone was trying to put some sense into you.

I've backed up everything I said and providing evidence and proof to my claims. You however can't back anything up and says oh "my numbers" or point to a 280gtx that has higher threshold cpu limits than a 9600gt would and says 9600gt will have the same bottlenecks. Did you ever think for a second that your numbers are wrong when all these credible websites says 8800gt is 20-25 faster than 9600gt for crysis?

Seems to me you buy and return constantly. It's still not ethical when you weren't planning on keeping it.

I don't remember what power supply you used yet you can't even answer the question. If I did know what power supply you used I wouldn't be asking you would I now? Who knows it could just be a made up story by a 16 year old who wants to swap his computer with his parents. Make up some stupid story to cover his ass. By the looks of it I've pretty much hit the nail in the coffin.

How do I twist everything you say? You told me 9600gt and 8800gt perform same. later you told me 8800gt is 1 fps faster. Later on you said 1.2fps. I provide proof which the 8800gt is roughly 20-25% faster than 9600gt in Crysis high settings. You wouldn't believe because the CPU was E8400 was @ 3.6ghz while your computer is x2 5000. So I run my computer to emulate and benchmark warhead. Guess what. Same 20-25% difference which you seem to agree yet that was this thread was about. Which would benefit more? A cpu and mobo or GPU. :roll:

You say you weren't banned. I say you did. I provide proof. You deny it. I guess I've twisted everything you said. :disgust:

I told you on TR that it was a Earthwatts 500watt psu. even after I told you on there SEVERAL times you kept saying I was using the 300watt psu and that I was lying about everything. thats what you always do because you are an asshole.

Im not going to repeat every stupid thing you said or twisted since all you will do is twist things again. I provide proof and you call me a liar. sometimes your proof has nothing to do with what Im even saying but you twist that to your own arguement. like when you accused me of saying the 8600gt can play Crysis on high setting when it was clearly someone else that said it and I was in fact telling them they couldnt.

just like now when I explained in detail about the parts I bought and why you still say crap like Seems to me you buy and return constantly. It's still not ethical when you weren't planning on keeping it. I kept some of that stuff and explained why I didnt keep the rest but thats not good enough for you.

also earlier I explained to you about the ban MANY times yet you keep bringing it up and acting like I am a liar. you are pathetic jerk and I will no longer respond to you so go have fun with someone else...

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: toyota
I told you on TR that it was a Earthwatts 500watt psu. even after I told you on there SEVERAL times you kept saying I was using the 300watt psu and that I was lying about everything. thats what you always do because you are an asshole.

Im not going to repeat every stupid thing you said or twisted since all you will do is twist things again. I provide proof and you call me a liar. sometimes your proof has nothing to do with what Im even saying but you twist that to your own arguement. like when you accused me of saying the 8600gt can play Crysis on high setting when it was clearly someone else that said it and I was in fact telling them they couldnt.

just like now when I explained in detail about the parts I bought and why you still say crap like Seems to me you buy and return constantly. It's still not ethical when you weren't planning on keeping it. I kept some of that stuff and explained why I didnt keep the rest but thats not good enough for you.

also earlier I explained to you about the ban MANY times yet you keep bringing it up and acting like I am a liar. you are pathetic jerk and I will no longer respond to you so go have fun with someone else...

keep your insults to yourself unless you don't want to get banned again. I guess you never learn.

When you say things that aren't true then people are going to question you.

And I don't remember you ever saying you used 500 watt Earthwatts. So where did you buy this Antec Earthwatts power supply from? This fit in your HP computer? Are you sure you don't need a proprietary power supply with your HP?

your integrity is questionable at best. you can't even have a debate without insulting people. You can keep denying about your ban but when I've shown you evidence that you were banned. Whatever you say toyota. :laugh:

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota
I told you on TR that it was a Earthwatts 500watt psu. even after I told you on there SEVERAL times you kept saying I was using the 300watt psu and that I was lying about everything. thats what you always do because you are an asshole.

Im not going to repeat every stupid thing you said or twisted since all you will do is twist things again. I provide proof and you call me a liar. sometimes your proof has nothing to do with what Im even saying but you twist that to your own arguement. like when you accused me of saying the 8600gt can play Crysis on high setting when it was clearly someone else that said it and I was in fact telling them they couldnt.

just like now when I explained in detail about the parts I bought and why you still say crap like Seems to me you buy and return constantly. It's still not ethical when you weren't planning on keeping it. I kept some of that stuff and explained why I didnt keep the rest but thats not good enough for you.

also earlier I explained to you about the ban MANY times yet you keep bringing it up and acting like I am a liar. you are pathetic jerk and I will no longer respond to you so go have fun with someone else...

keep your insults to yourself unless you don't want to get banned again. I guess you never learn.

When you say things that aren't true then people are going to question you.

And I don't remember you ever saying you used 500 watt Earthwatts. So where did you buy this Antec Earthwatts power supply from? This fit in your HP computer? Are you sure you don't need a proprietary power supply with your HP?

your integrity is questionable at best. you can't even have a debate without insulting people. You can keep denying about your ban but when I've shown you evidence that you were banned. Whatever you say toyota. :laugh:

Im NOT denying that he said I was banned. Im simply saying that for whatever reason it never kept me from logging into the forums as usual. so maybe it got screwed up and I have already said that numerous times. how is my integrity questionable since I havent lied about one single thing?

Yes it was an Antec psu purchased at BB and even I after I told you on TR you kept saying I had a 300watt psu. you just kept calling me a liar no matter how many times I told you. and yes any normal psu will fit into a Compaq or HP comp.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: toyota
Im NOT denying that he said I was banned. Im simply saying that for whatever reason it never kept me from logging into the forums as usual. so maybe it got screwed up and I have already said that numerous times. how is my integrity questionable since I havent lied about one single thing?

Yes it was an Antec psu purchased at BB and even I after I told you on TR you kept saying I had a 300watt psu. you just kept calling me a liar no matter how many times I told you. and yes any normal psu will fit into a Compaq or HP comp.

So you logged in. Could you show me in the past 3 days you were banned where you posted in anandtech? maybe you could log in but you couldn't post.

Obviously your benchmarks are off and get into arguments with it which got you in discrepancies quite a few times. :laugh:

Games are for the most part are GPU limited. CPU does come into play but not as much as a faster GPU would. A 9600gt just doesn't have the power to play Warhead in gamer settings comfortably. Hell a 280gtx doesn't either cause it can't even pull 60fps. Even the $1000 cpu will not let a 9600gt have 35fps at gamer settings at medium resolution like 1280x1024. X2 is old I understand that but not old enough to play modern games with because of it's a dual core.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: toyota
Im NOT denying that he said I was banned. Im simply saying that for whatever reason it never kept me from logging into the forums as usual. so maybe it got screwed up and I have already said that numerous times. how is my integrity questionable since I havent lied about one single thing?

Yes it was an Antec psu purchased at BB and even I after I told you on TR you kept saying I had a 300watt psu. you just kept calling me a liar no matter how many times I told you. and yes any normal psu will fit into a Compaq or HP comp.

So you logged in. Could you show me in the past 3 days you were banned where you posted in anandtech? maybe you could log in but you couldn't post.

Obviously your benchmarks are off and get into arguments with it which got you in discrepancies quite a few times. :laugh:

Games are for the most part are GPU limited. CPU does come into play but not as much as a faster GPU would. A 9600gt just doesn't have the power to play Warhead in gamer settings comfortably. Hell a 280gtx doesn't either cause it can't even pull 60fps. Even the $1000 cpu will not let a 9600gt have 35fps at gamer settings at medium resolution like 1280x1024. X2 is old I understand that but not old enough to play modern games with because of it's a dual core.

well I bought a comp with a stock Q9300 and transfered the 4670 over to it.

Far Cry 2

1024x768 dx9 very high no AA
5000 X2... Q9300
avg 34 fps... 45 fps
high 51 fps... 56 fps
low 18 fps... 28 fps

1280x1024 dx9 very high no AA 4x AF
5000 X2... Q9300
avg 31 fps... 38 fps
high 44 fps... 47 fps
low 16 fps... 20 fps

thats a 33% increase at 1024x768 just going from 5000 X2 to Q9300 cpu even on very high setttings. yes FC 2 is optimized for quad cores but a faster core 2 duo like an E8500 or 8600 will still be even faster than my slower clocked Q9300. even at 1280x1024 on very high with AF a better cpu gave 25% increase in average framerate.



Crysis

1024x768 dx10 all high no AA
5000 X2...Q9300
25.8 fps...32.3 fps

thats a 29% increase on high settings. yes its at 1024x768 but thats what the op is playing at. his cpu is even slower than my 5000 X2 and his video card is faster therefore he would get an even bigger performance increase from a better cpu than I did.

like I have been saying the cpu is still very important. a slow shitty cpu can not be made up for by sticking in a high end video card. hopefully you will now understand just how weak the slower X2 cpus really are.