crysis stuttering with 4870 512mb

[SpeedZealot369]

hey guys. last night i got my new pc thats in my sig. i played warhead and it was stuttering even when i lowered most things to mainstream and 1440x900. is that normal for this game with my setup?

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
hey guys. last night i got my new pc thats in my sig. i played warhead and it was stuttering even when i lowered most things to mainstream and 1440x900. is that normal for this game with my setup?

Upgrade your ram to at least 4 GB!

 

[SpeedZealot369]

is that really the problem?

 

[bryanW1995]

often stuttering at lower resolution means your cpu is the bottleneck. try putting a decent oc on it and see if the stuttering persists.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
often stuttering at lower resolution means your cpu is the bottleneck. try putting a decent oc on it and see if the stuttering persists.

while he certainly could pick up a little more performance from an overclock on that cpu, the E7200 is more than fast enough to keep that game playable so thats not it. stuttering doesnt come from the cpu being the bottleneck at a lower res anyway. if the cpu is slow enough to cause huge framerate dips then that will occur at every res not just a lower one.

OP you do NEED more than 2gb of ram for Warhead so that is likely your issue. on Vista for sure it will hitch and stutter with just 2gb of ram. Clear Sky and Warhead were the first games I ran into that needed me to have more than 2gb in my last system.

As our benchmarks reveal, a smooth gameplay with 2 GiByte memory is possible on XP only, on Vista the screen freezes up to one second in some situations. http://www.pcgameshardware.com...e-game/Reviews/?page=2

 

[SpeedZealot369]

i see.. i guess it will need to upgrade to 4gb. is it me or does the gameplay of crysis not that great? i mean the graphics are good but the gameplay isnt anything special..

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
i see.. i guess it will need to upgrade to 4gb. is it me or does the gameplay of crysis not that great? i mean the graphics are good but the gameplay isnt anything special..

well thats going to come down to personal preference. overall I enjoyed both Crysis and Warhead.

 

[Udgnim]

if you have made any changes to CCC in its 3d settings section, I recommend resetting back to default settings and seeing if there is any improvement. I don't play Crysis, but I've had my framerate drop in half or worse when playing Mirror's Edge. resetting 3d settings back to default fixed the framerate issue.

also, to find out if you're actually being limited by the amount of RAM you have,

DL & install Rivatuner, click the "Customize" button on its "Main" tab, click the "Hardware Monitoring" tab, click the "Setup" button located at the lower bottom right, click the "Plugins" button located at the lower bottom left, and select "SysMem.dll

Rivatuner's "Hardware Monitoring" function, can also tell you if you're being limited by your video memory or a whole lot of other possible stuff

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
often stuttering at lower resolution means your cpu is the bottleneck. try putting a decent oc on it and see if the stuttering persists.

while he certainly could pick up a little more performance from an overclock on that cpu, the E7200 is more than fast enough to keep that game playable so thats not it. stuttering doesnt come from the cpu being the bottleneck at a lower res anyway. if the cpu is slow enough to cause huge framerate dips then that will occur at every res not just a lower one.

OP you do NEED more than 2gb of ram for Warhead so that is likely your issue. on Vista for sure it will hitch and stutter with just 2gb of ram. Clear Sky and Warhead were the first games I ran into that needed me to have more than 2gb in my last system.

As our benchmarks reveal, a smooth gameplay with 2 GiByte memory is possible on XP only, on Vista the screen freezes up to one second in some situations. http://www.pcgameshardware.com...e-game/Reviews/?page=2

he didn't say that it was only stuttering at 14x9, he said that he cranked down the details and it was STILL stuttering at 14x9. Doesn't that imply that, um, you know, it was stuttering at HIGHER res, too?

@op, if you're on vista then our japanese friend is correct. you need more ram.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
often stuttering at lower resolution means your cpu is the bottleneck. try putting a decent oc on it and see if the stuttering persists.

while he certainly could pick up a little more performance from an overclock on that cpu, the E7200 is more than fast enough to keep that game playable so thats not it. stuttering doesnt come from the cpu being the bottleneck at a lower res anyway. if the cpu is slow enough to cause huge framerate dips then that will occur at every res not just a lower one.

OP you do NEED more than 2gb of ram for Warhead so that is likely your issue. on Vista for sure it will hitch and stutter with just 2gb of ram. Clear Sky and Warhead were the first games I ran into that needed me to have more than 2gb in my last system.

As our benchmarks reveal, a smooth gameplay with 2 GiByte memory is possible on XP only, on Vista the screen freezes up to one second in some situations. http://www.pcgameshardware.com...e-game/Reviews/?page=2

he didn't say that it was only stuttering at 14x9, he said that he cranked down the details and it was STILL stuttering at 14x9. Doesn't that imply that, um, you know, it was stuttering at HIGHER res, too?

@op, if you're on vista then our japanese friend is correct. you need more ram.

my bad. I didnt notice that part.

 

[faxon]

why did you only get a 4870 512mb when you have a 24 inch monitor? you should have got a 1GB model for that. also, you only have 2GB of system ram, you really need at least 4GB for todays gaming demands, esp crysis. i cant play the game at anything higher than medium with mainstream everything on my 9800GTX @ 1920x1200 (which your monitor is capable of), if you're gonna get a GPU with the power that a 4870 has, why limit it by framebuffer when for $15 more you can get so much more performance out of it lol

 

[BFG10K]

Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369

i see.. i guess it will need to upgrade to 4gb.

Don?t bother unless you?re running a 64 bit operating system.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369

i see.. i guess it will need to upgrade to 4gb.

Don?t bother unless you?re running a 64 bit operating system.

so he should just keep having hitches then? lol. even if he only gets 3.25 out of that 4gb of ram it makes more sense than fooling with a 1gb kit since they are usually not much cheaper.

 

[v8envy]

It's possible to use more than 3 Gb with 32 bit OSes. Paging Access Extensions for various server flavors. For a desktop the easiest way to use more RAM productively is to create a RAMdisk. While each process is still limited to 4 (2?) gb, the OS can be "swapping" everything else to the RAMdisk.

 

[Shmee]

I doubt OP is interested in a RAMdisk. But it is a viable (but perhaps not worth it) workaround. I would make sure that you have a 64 GB os, and 4 GB or more of ram. Win7 goes retail soon, so that would b e a good opportunity to upgrade to 64 bit(if need be) and more RAM. And Faxon does have a good point about the video card having less than desirable video RAM for your screen. Might want to get a 5850 or something when they come out. Or even 5870.

 

[Beanie46]

I'd still put 4GB of memory in it. Even though he may only "see" 3.5GB or so, that's still better than 2GB.

 

[bamacre]

You said this is a new build, so two questions...

1. Does stuttering happen in all games, particularly older games?
2. Did you install chipset drivers? And if so, did you install them first?

Edit:

Third question. What OS are you running? If Vista, are you running the game in DX10 mode?

 

[BFG10K]

Originally posted by: toyota

so he should just keep having hitches then? lol. even if he only gets 3.25 out of that 4gb of ram it makes more sense than fooling with a 1gb kit since they are usually not much cheaper.

On 32 bit Windows each process is limited to 2 GB virtual address space. Therefore it doesn?t matter if he sees 3.25 GB, 4 GB, or 8 GB because Crysis will only ever get 2 GB for itself. Buying more RAM will certainly help, but generally not on a 32 bit OS.

There are ways to work around this but they?ve been specifically disabled by Microsoft by default because many device drivers fail if you do so.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Originally posted by: toyota

so he should just keep having hitches then? lol. even if he only gets 3.25 out of that 4gb of ram it makes more sense than fooling with a 1gb kit since they are usually not much cheaper.

On 32 bit Windows each process is limited to 2 GB virtual address space. Therefore it doesn?t matter if he sees 3.25 GB, 4 GB, or 8 GB because Crysis will only ever get 2 GB for itself. Buying more RAM will certainly help, but generally not on a 32 bit OS.

There are ways to work around this but they?ve been specifically disabled by Microsoft by default because many device drivers fail if you do so.

right but the system can over 2gb even though that game isnt. on my last system with 32bit Vista, even with all unnecessary programs off I was right at 2gb physical ram usage while playing Warhead and Clear Sky so they would hitch. I got another 1gb(2x512mb) from a friend that had upgraded and it fixed the hitching. now when playing those games it goes over 2gb physical ram. in fact it now sits at 2.2 to 2.3 and plays smoothly where before it would just be right at 2gb and hitch.

 

[SpeedZealot369]

im running windows 7 build, direct x 10.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Originally posted by: toyota

so he should just keep having hitches then? lol. even if he only gets 3.25 out of that 4gb of ram it makes more sense than fooling with a 1gb kit since they are usually not much cheaper.

On 32 bit Windows each process is limited to 2 GB virtual address space. Therefore it doesn?t matter if he sees 3.25 GB, 4 GB, or 8 GB because Crysis will only ever get 2 GB for itself. Buying more RAM will certainly help, but generally not on a 32 bit OS.

There are ways to work around this but they?ve been specifically disabled by Microsoft by default because many device drivers fail if you do so.

right but the system can over 2gb even though that game isnt. on my last system with 32bit Vista, even with all unnecessary programs off I was right at 2gb physical ram usage while playing Warhead and Clear Sky so they would hitch. I got another 1gb(2x512mb) from a friend that had upgraded and it fixed the hitching. now when playing those games it goes over 2gb physical ram. in fact it now sits at 2.2 to 2.3 and plays smoothly where before it would just be right at 2gb and hitch.

I know Windows XP 32-bit does indeed have the 2GB limit per applications, but I'm not entirely sure Vista does. From your testimony it would seem Vista doesn't have a limit per program, but I haven't come across any information supporting or denying this fact.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: cusideabelincoln

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Originally posted by: toyota

so he should just keep having hitches then? lol. even if he only gets 3.25 out of that 4gb of ram it makes more sense than fooling with a 1gb kit since they are usually not much cheaper.

On 32 bit Windows each process is limited to 2 GB virtual address space. Therefore it doesn?t matter if he sees 3.25 GB, 4 GB, or 8 GB because Crysis will only ever get 2 GB for itself. Buying more RAM will certainly help, but generally not on a 32 bit OS.

There are ways to work around this but they?ve been specifically disabled by Microsoft by default because many device drivers fail if you do so.

right but the system can over 2gb even though that game isnt. on my last system with 32bit Vista, even with all unnecessary programs off I was right at 2gb physical ram usage while playing Warhead and Clear Sky so they would hitch. I got another 1gb(2x512mb) from a friend that had upgraded and it fixed the hitching. now when playing those games it goes over 2gb physical ram. in fact it now sits at 2.2 to 2.3 and plays smoothly where before it would just be right at 2gb and hitch.

I know Windows XP 32-bit does indeed have the 2GB limit per applications, but I'm not entirely sure Vista does. From your testimony it would seem Vista doesn't have a limit per program, but I haven't come across any information supporting or denying this fact.

the actual games never went over 2gb.