Crysis -- I get it now

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Red Hawk

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They don't change any graphics settings? A lot of games start up with 1024x768 or 1280x1024 resolution by default. Are people just playing at those resolutions and not caring?
 

DrBoss

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All I'm saying is Crytek dropped the ball with Crysis 2... i can has more P0W3R!
 

Spjut

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According to NV, their research indicates that 80% of PC gamers don't adjust any graphics settings in games. They just play the game without optimizing the settings for it (hence the GeForce experience). So you are saying someone who just plays on the PC with a keyboard and a mouse is a console gamer in disguise? :hmm: Also, games should push hardware but in a reasonable way. I think that was the point of Spjut's post. We've seen games like King Arthur II, the Secrete World or Dirt Showdown cripple hardware despite not looking like anything special, with horrendous performance hit vs. graphics fidelity ratio. Extreme tessellation on concrete barriers and invisible ocean in Crysis 2 is another example of "pushing GPU hardware" for no benefit. These type of things we don't want to see in games on the PC.

This is pretty much what I mean

I don't see how that makes me primarily a console gamer...Despite me not vouching for games needing 5 years of GPU advancements to be maxed out, I still appreciate a decent PC's higher resolutions and framerates and AA that I can't currently get on a console

I want to point out that I have nothing against if a game needs a next-gen GPU to truly be maxed out,but I do however still want it to run well and look great on the current GPUs available. Because the current GPUs are what I will play the current games on.
When GPUs could finally come close to maxing Crysis with a good framerate, I had already moved on from that game

Also, "future-proofed" games don't always scale good in the future. Crysis 1 and Warhead were made for dual cores, now it's all about at least quad cores, with clock speeds that barely have gone up. Even though Ivybridge is alot better than the Wolfdale CPUs, I think one can see what I'm trying to say.
 

DrBoss

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Crysis 1 and Warhead were made for dual cores, now it's all about at least quad cores, with clock speeds that barely have gone up.
Are there any games which have been coded to utilize four or more cpu cores?
 

2is

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Also, "future-proofed" games don't always scale good in the future. Crysis 1 and Warhead were made for dual cores, now it's all about at least quad cores, with clock speeds that barely have gone up. Even though Ivybridge is alot better than the Wolfdale CPUs, I think one can see what I'm trying to say.

I see what you're saying. I don't see how it matters. Games that only use 2 cores still run on quads just fine. And one isn't going to develop a game that needs 6 cores to run well but only code it so it can only use two. (well almost no one, oblivion and skyrim needed more threads than they were developed for) The reason Crysis 2 use multi cores better than Crysis 1 is because it needed to. Consoles are multi core machines and typically have more CPU than GPU power so the game had to be catered to that hardware. Aaaannnnnd... Crysis, while needing years to be maxed out DID run well and look great on hardware available at the time.
 
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blckgrffn

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I really enjoyed that game... a lot. After fully augmenting my strength and adding all mods to the sniper rifle (larger magazine, increase rate of fire, etc) i had a great time walking around using it like it was an assault rifle.

I upgraded the piss out of the pistol and just walked around with that 99% of the time. If they were tougher, they got Typhoon'd. :) Silent, deadly, and compact in Inventory. When I played the DLC I didn't even bother with making the inventory bigger until the very end.

In Rage I used the pistol nearly all the time as well. Hmm....

Had a great time with Crysis until the aliens, much like Far Cry until the lame monsters. If Far Cry had been a whole Island of Mercenaries it might have been my favorite game of that era.
 

DrBoss

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Had a great time with Crysis until the aliens, much like Far Cry until the lame monsters. If Far Cry had been a whole Island of Mercenaries it might have been my favorite game of that era.

Far Cry's monsters (trigens) didn't bother me as much as the floating aliens in Crysis.
*nostalgia
 

skipsneeky2

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The worst thing about Far Cry was Far Cry 2

Farcry 2 was one of those games i attempted to play multiple times and about a hour in,i get bored to tears.

Thought maybe i was crazy for hating that game but those stupid goals like fix the car in a fps game just made it stupid,only game with anything more stupid in it was the puzzles in Duke Nukem Forever.
 

DrBoss

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I didn't even attempt to play Duke Nukem Forever. I had high hopes for that game back in 1998 when it was originally slated for release. 13 years later i figured it was a lost cause

rolling the clock back on this conversation even further... Duke Nukem 3D was one hell of a game. The blood splatters on the walls when you shot enemies = cutting edge 1996 tech
 

skipsneeky2

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I didn't even attempt to play Duke Nukem Forever. I had high hopes for that game back in 1998 when it was originally slated for release. 13 years later i figured it was a lost cause

When you ever play Duke Nukem Forever,keep some blood pressure medicine nearby or uninstall immediately,to save your keyboard.

It is the only game i have played in my 6 years of pc gaming that just pissed me off so much,i almost broke my keyboard in anger.

Should have seen me,some parts of the game you would have heard me across the street in your home yelling and slamming my hands on my keyboard in a fit of rage that made the angry video game nerds tyrants on youtube look like baby fits,i don't anger easy.:awe:
 

RussianSensation

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Crysis 3 Interactive Demo Trailer - shows 2 different ways to approach the mission (Stealth vs. Armor).

I just don't like how it asks you to select which way you want to approach the mission. That's not really sandbox but more of a linear delivery with 2 different options almost. I think the gamer should be able to choose on the fly if they want to go in guns blazing or stealth. Otherwise, instead it's like playing a sequence of events in a linear fashion.
 

DrBoss

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Crysis 3 Interactive Demo Trailer - shows 2 different ways to approach the mission (Stealth vs. Armor).

I just don't like how it asks you to select which way you want to approach the mission. That's not really sandbox but more of a linear delivery with 2 different options almost. I think the gamer should be able to choose on the fly if they want to go in guns blazing or stealth. Otherwise, instead it's like playing a sequence of events in a linear fashion.

Nice find, i'd not seen that video. Graphics do look impressive as far as i can tell from a youtube video.

Crytek's recent work is certainly moving away from sandbox... it seems C3 will have more paths to take than C2, but they are still paths (not an open level design ala Contact/Assault/Onslaught)
 

ViRGE

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Crysis 3 Interactive Demo Trailer - shows 2 different ways to approach the mission (Stealth vs. Armor).

I just don't like how it asks you to select which way you want to approach the mission. That's not really sandbox but more of a linear delivery with 2 different options almost. I think the gamer should be able to choose on the fly if they want to go in guns blazing or stealth. Otherwise, instead it's like playing a sequence of events in a linear fashion.
I think you're reading too much into that video. It's COYA-style because it's a video rather than an interactive medium. There's no reason to believe you won't be able to switch it up in the game itself.
 

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I've played Far Cry, Crysis and Crysis 2, loved them all I'm excited for 3 (bow and arrow!!!)

I wonder why more games don't use their game engine?
I've been gaming on medium-low end hardware for years, Crysis 2 ran much nicer on my comp than Crysis 1 did.

That interactive video definitely gives me high hopes. If next-gen consoles guts are more PC-like and Sony going for a more developer-friendly programming system for PS4 I'm sure we won't be getting as many crappy ports ^_^
 
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Red Hawk

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Initially. But then mainstream PC hardware will inevitably surpass consoles again, and developers will still target consoles, and we'll still get crappy ports...

And the hardware specs of the consoles makes no difference with how UIs are designed. The crappiest of crappy console ports simply lift the UI from console games and put them in the PC version without properly customizing them for mouse and keyboard use.