Crysis DX10 graphics candy with DX9

[Wheezer]

of course performance will take a hit depending on your rig but I thought this was very interesting...gonna try it tonight.

inCrysis Forum Link

I have vista 64 bit, an hd 2900xt, amd x2 4200+ @ 2.61 GHz... so here's the deal

In dx10 mode, I can run everything at max with no AA, 1280x1024 @ about 30-40fps (generally closer to 30)

Now, if you go into your game folder, "Crysis SP demo\Game\Config\cvar groups" you will see a bunch of different cvars for each graphics setting, 3 is high - 4 is very high, etc. If you copy and paste the "4" into the "3" sections then run in dx9, you are essentially getting
the same exact graphics as in dx10 mode in dx9 runtime. (One thing doesnt work in dx9, in
shader cvars you need to disable object blur, that feature is unique to dx10). So basically, this is running with dx10 graphics... and guess what!

Now if I right click on crysis demo in the vista games explorer, and choose run in dx9... i get 50-85 fps with dx9 with the very high graphics settings! Wow... dx10 sure gives a performance boost.

DX9 "Very High" Modification CVAR pack


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This is a set of modified CVar files for the Crysis SP demo that lets you get multiple

'DX10 exclusive' features running under the DX9 'High' mode, I discovered this when I got the demo, but have been told some others figured out something similiar with the MP beta.

Anyway, instructions are just to unzip the file into C:\Program\Electronic Arts\Crytek\Crysis SP Demo\Game\Config and make sure to overwrite all files, it is also GREATLY recommended that you backup CVarGroups before installing the 'mod'.

Please note that I take no responsibility for what this mod does to your game, and if you choose to use it, it's entirely your responsibility.

Screen shots:

HIGH quality DX9

Modded DX9

 

[LittleNemoNES]

OMG I knew something like this was going to happen! It happened with Far Cry and 64 bit.

Thanks so much!

 

[EvilComputer92]

This is making DX10 look like more and more of a joke.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: EvilComputer92
This is making DX10 look like more and more of a joke.

I'm sure half the reason behind DX10 was to make people upgrade to Vista.

 

[Elcs]

Strangeley enough, I think the normal DX9 looks better.

However, Hellgate London in beta, the DX10 looks better.

Im confused over DX10

 

[jonmcc33]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
of course performance will take a hit depending on your rig but I thought this was very interesting...gonna try it tonight.

inCrysis Forum Link

I have vista 64 bit, an hd 2900xt, amd x2 4200+ @ 2.61 GHz... so here's the deal

In dx10 mode, I can run everything at max with no AA, 1280x1024 @ about 30-40fps (generally closer to 30)

Now, if you go into your game folder, "Crysis SP demo\Game\Config\cvar groups" you will see a bunch of different cvars for each graphics setting, 3 is high - 4 is very high, etc. If you copy and paste the "4" into the "3" sections then run in dx9, you are essentially getting
the same exact graphics as in dx10 mode in dx9 runtime. (One thing doesnt work in dx9, in
shader cvars you need to disable object blur, that feature is unique to dx10). So basically, this is running with dx10 graphics... and guess what!

Now if I right click on crysis demo in the vista games explorer, and choose run in dx9... i get 50-85 fps with dx9 with the very high graphics settings! Wow... dx10 sure gives a performance boost.

DX9 "Very High" Modification CVAR pack


rapid share MUCH FASTER

This is a set of modified CVar files for the Crysis SP demo that lets you get multiple

'DX10 exclusive' features running under the DX9 'High' mode, I discovered this when I got the demo, but have been told some others figured out something similiar with the MP beta.

Anyway, instructions are just to unzip the file into C:\Program\Electronic Arts\Crytek\Crysis SP Demo\Game\Config and make sure to overwrite all files, it is also GREATLY recommended that you backup CVarGroups before installing the 'mod'.

Please note that I take no responsibility for what this mod does to your game, and if you choose to use it, it's entirely your responsibility.

Screen shots:

HIGH quality DX9

Modded DX9

I'm going to call BS on this. My screens are never that dull for your "high quality DX9" shot.

 

[postmortemIA]

Originally posted by: jonmcc33

I'm going to call BS on this. My screens are never that dull for your "high quality DX9" shot.

I agree, that "high quality" DX9 looks like Serious Sam I from 5 yrs ago.

 

[Skunkwourk]

Originally posted by: Elcs
Strangeley enough, I think the normal DX9 looks better.

However, Hellgate London in beta, the DX10 looks better.

Im confused over DX10

well the high quality one has more trees in it!!!!!

 

[cmdrdredd]

That poster is a liar...I have a much faster system than him and I can not get 50fps ever. Not even as a max fps. Not with everything up like he's saying.

People spew BS about their FPS because they don't even look at FRAPS.

Now when I run DX10 and turn post processing to medium and shadows to medium I get 30fps averages. I use FRAPS so I'm not BSing. I notice a difference between DX10 and DX9.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

I can't believe you guys don't notice that they are jpgs and that the lighting is much more realistic -- look @ the sun and the reflection of light on the leaves.

 

[Wheezer]

believe it or not, it is kind or irrelevant, you have been given the information to decide for yourself....try it, see if it works, if it does not, then you are not anything but a little time.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
believe it or not, it is kind or irrelevant, you have been given the information to decide for yourself....try it, see if it works, if it does not, then you are not anything but a little time.

I have tried it, the issue is that certain things are not enabled by editing the cfgs.

Thus you're still not getting all the details. STuff you may not even notice (draw distance and object blur for example).

 

[wazzledoozle]

Looks the same.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: wazzledoozle
Looks the same.

details are not the same. again... draw distance, object blur, more complex shaders available.

it's close, but still not a 100% copy.

 

[wazzledoozle]

Increased detail != DX10 graphics.

DX10 adds a lot of new effects, not just better detail to current ones.

You can compare for yourself here
http://webpages.charter.net/bliss/

Personally I have seen the differences on a 8800GTS on Vista and XP.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: wazzledoozle
Increased detail != DX10 graphics.

DX10 adds a lot of new effects, not just better detail to current ones.

You can compare for yourself here
http://webpages.charter.net/bliss/

Personally I have seen the differences on a 8800GTS on Vista and XP.

that's what I said. You can edit all you want, but you're not getting everything.

 

[Skacer]

I think you guys don't get the point. DX10 butchers FPS to unacceptable levels. So to get DX9 with almost all the DX10 features except double or triple the FPS is a huge accomplishment.

 

[miniMUNCH]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
That poster is a liar...I have a much faster system than him and I can not get 50fps ever. Not even as a max fps. Not with everything up like he's saying.

People spew BS about their FPS because they don't even look at FRAPS.

Now when I run DX10 and turn post processing to medium and shadows to medium I get 30fps averages. I use FRAPS so I'm not BSing. I notice a difference between DX10 and DX9.

This has pretty much been my experience as well.

DX10 looks significantly better than DX9 to me.

I only checked FPS at 1680x1050, high settings, because game play was choppy and was getting around 20 FPS (intel E4300 @ 2.4 GHz, 2 GB, 8800 GTS 640MB, vista 64). 1440x900, high/med, or lower is quite playable.

Also, as of yet I could not get crysis 64 to run on my system... not that I tried very hard.

 

[miniMUNCH]

Originally posted by: Skacer
I think you guys don't get the point. DX10 butchers FPS to unacceptable levels. So to get DX9 with almost all the DX10 features except double or triple the FPS is a huge accomplishment.

You can disable motion blur and a few other effects in DX10 and FPS go way up and it still looks better than the DX9 version. And, IMO, disabling motion blur actually makes the game a lot easier.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Skacer
I think you guys don't get the point. DX10 butchers FPS to unacceptable levels. So to get DX9 with almost all the DX10 features except double or triple the FPS is a huge accomplishment.

Not true. It plays fine on DX10 for me but then again I just don't need 50FPS for single-player.

After looking at both of those screenshots I will definitely stick with DX10 as it looks much better than either of those, plus you get the other added goodies.

KT

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
That poster is a liar...I have a much faster system than him and I can not get 50fps ever. Not even as a max fps. Not with everything up like he's saying.

People spew BS about their FPS because they don't even look at FRAPS.

Now when I run DX10 and turn post processing to medium and shadows to medium I get 30fps averages. I use FRAPS so I'm not BSing. I notice a difference between DX10 and DX9.

Why are you so bitchy about the crysis demo? Every post you make about it is just angry.

 

[BladeVenom]

Thanks to the OP. It makes dx9 look better without the frame rate hit of dx10.

 

[Wheezer]

my rig:
Asrock 939 Dual SATA 2
Opteron Denmark 2.4 @2.7
OCZ DDR Platinum 2GB
ATI X1950XTX
Onboard sound
Seagate 250GB SATA HD

I have everything set to max except the sound, @1024x768 and things seem to be running pretty smooth.

 

[imported_Slimy]

Originally posted by: Skacer
I think you guys don't get the point. DX10 butchers FPS to unacceptable levels. So to get DX9 with almost all the DX10 features except double or triple the FPS is a huge accomplishment.

Just to clarify, (since there seems to be a lot of misinformation going around): This does not get you "DX10 features". What it gets you are are features that are not DX10-specific, but aren't normally accessible unless you're running DX10.

The "Very High" settings are a mixed-bag of DX10-specific, and non-DX10-specific settings. Rather than break them up as such, the developers simply locked out the whole set of "Very High" settings to DX10 systems, regardless of whether the individual settings relied on DX10. However, they only locked them out though the in-game settings.

But don't think that editing the game's config files is suddenly going to get you DX10 specific features.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Slimy

Originally posted by: Skacer
I think you guys don't get the point. DX10 butchers FPS to unacceptable levels. So to get DX9 with almost all the DX10 features except double or triple the FPS is a huge accomplishment.

Just to clarify, (since there seems to be a lot of misinformation going around): This does not get you "DX10 features". What it gets you are are features that are not DX10-specific, but aren't normally accessible unless you're running DX10.

The "Very High" settings are a mixed-bag of DX10-specific, and non-DX10-specific settings. Rather than break them up as such, the developers simply locked out the whole set of "Very High" settings to DX10 systems, regardless of whether the individual settings relied on DX10. However, they only locked them out though the in-game settings.

But don't think that editing the game's config files is suddenly going to get you DX10 specific features.

Of course the real question is: Who gave them the kickback to hide all of these features from users that obviously have the capability to run them? With farcry it was obviously AMD...but nvidia/ati and microsoft all have a vested interest in this one.