Cryogenic Car Engine gets 120MPG!!!

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Savarak

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so what if he does really truly get 120mpg? It seems he does have a working car....
 

cjgallen

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Just get a magnetic oil filter sleeve, magnetic fuel filter sleeve, and a tornado air intake. Accomplishes the same thing :D
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Savarak
so what if he does really truly get 120mpg? It seems he does have a working car....
So then the world has changed and he's our new hero. He's fibbing.

 

ElFenix

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known to get 120. i bet that means the mileage thing in the car has hit 120 before. that isn't so hard. i made a minivan with a mileage computer get 80. all you have to do is go really fast and then take your foot off the pedal. i bet if i had done it downhill with a tailwind i could have gotten 100+ out of that minivan.
 

RU482

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if you notice, he has a link in that article for his website, greatrazors or something like that. How the hell does he chill a mach 3 blade down to -300F, and not crack the plastic? If anything, wouldn't the plastic and metal expand/contract at different rates and cause them to break?
 

AdamSnow

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Its like enchanting the items in WoW... :)

--- Okay, I've played a bit too much of that friggen game!
 

James3shin

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yeah i agree with skoorb that 120MPG figure sounds very dubious....unless they tested it on a giant hill and the guy coasted down it the whole time :p
 

hevnsnt

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We talked about this guy about a year ago.. (about the razors)

He doesnt live to far from me, so I wrote him an email about bringing my motorcycle over and freezing the rotors and other parts to check it out.. He never wrote me back -- go figure
 

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Originally posted by: cjgallen
Just get a magnetic oil filter sleeve, magnetic fuel filter sleeve, and a tornado air intake. Accomplishes the same thing :D

And add 100 more HP with the racing stripes and the big V-TEC stickers :D

 

DBL

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Originally posted by: hevnsnt
We talked about this guy about a year ago.. (about the razors)

He doesnt live to far from me, so I wrote him an email about bringing my motorcycle over and freezing the rotors and other parts to check it out.. He never wrote me back -- go figure

I bought a pack of razors from him (or some similar company) out of curiosity. I couldn't tell any difference. Total garbage.

 

thomsbrain

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the insight can get over 120 MPG anyway, when drafting (or going down a hill, obviously). car and driver achieved this by driving theirs right behind a ford expedition. this has nothing to do with cryogenically freezing engine parts. i mean, how could that make ANY difference? last longer, maybe, but it's not going to magically get better mileage.

as someone mentioned, put down the foil hats.
 
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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
the insight can get over 120 MPG anyway, when drafting (or going down a hill, obviously). car and driver achieved this by driving theirs right behind a ford expedition. this has nothing to do with cryogenically freezing engine parts. i mean, how could that make ANY difference? last longer, maybe, but it's not going to magically get better mileage.

as someone mentioned, put down the foil hats.

I'm not tailgating, I'm drafting.

Truckers hate that, though. :p

- M4H
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: dxkj
If you took all the advances we have and put them together in one car, we could get 200 miles per gallon on a car that would run for 20 years with no maintenance.



Whats the point, car manufacturers are in bed with Big oil,.... so we are still boned.
And each car would cost millions of dollars. There is no conspiracy. Manufacturers sell the level of technology that their customers can afford to buy.

This article is a crock of sh!t (and a perfect example of bad journalism). Metal cryo-freezing is nothing new. Airplane manufacturers and race car designers have been doing it for decades in order to strengthen components. It does not and cannot increase fuel mileage in and of itself.
 

Falloutboy

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proly whats going on here is becaue of the tempured metal in the engine hes able to run the engine leaner than you would normally which means less gas used. but I highly doubt that thier is as much of a gain in performace that is being said
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Falloutboy
proly whats going on here is becaue of the tempured metal in the engine hes able to run the engine leaner than you would normally which means less gas used. but I highly doubt that thier is as much of a gain in performace that is being said
Well... speculating that he could run leaner safer, then he would see a gain in performance along with a gain in mileage. However, at some point his leaner A/F ratios would still cross over to pre-detonation knock (the threshold of which would not be changed by the cryo-treated components) and that severely reduces performance and efficiency, in addition to being dangerous to engine internals.
 

StageLeft

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OK, I can't help it.

I think we've figured out how to get American men to finally beat the brits in that lasting-in-bed area.
 

PowerMacG5

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
the insight can get over 120 MPG anyway, when drafting (or going down a hill, obviously). car and driver achieved this by driving theirs right behind a ford expedition. this has nothing to do with cryogenically freezing engine parts. i mean, how could that make ANY difference? last longer, maybe, but it's not going to magically get better mileage.

as someone mentioned, put down the foil hats.

I'm not tailgating, I'm drafting.

Truckers hate that, though. :p

- M4H

It really doesn't matter to them. You rearend them and you are at fault, plus your car will get fvcked while the truck has a scratch or two on it.

My father is in the trucking business, and I have been in a tractor trailer when someone rear ended it. You don't even feel it because the truck has so much more momentum than the car (so the truck is barely moved by a car hitting it). The trailer is all heavy beefed up steel, so an impact from a car isn't much to it.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: James3shin
I still don't understand how it improves efficiency...i can see the benefits in terms of structural strength and reduction in "wear and tear" but efficiency?
It might make the parts a bit harder and reduce friction by some small amount, but the 120 is simply fallacious. The person who wrote the article is an idiot.

The way the article says it: "Hutchison's cryogenically tempered engine has been known to get close to 120 miles a gallon" makes it sound like he could be talking about either an instantaneous mileage or a best scenario mileage (i.e. freeway driving in the middle of winter) rather than an overall mileage.
 

sygyzy

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This guy is crazy. Don't reporters care about facts anymore? He just says it's getting 120MPG and is going to last 1 million miles like it's fact and it gets published? WTF?