Cruise control and paddle shifters

IronWing

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They don't go together so good. When one decides to play with the paddle shifters, like slowing down for a red light, it is a good idea to make sure one hadn't previously turned on cruise control. Rather exciting.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: Apex
Doesn't shifting simply disengage the cruise control?

One would think but, alas, not on the Honda Fit. It makes interesting noises.
 

Xyclone

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Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Honda Fit has paddle shifters?

This. Also if it does, why? I'm sure it is not fast enough to have to keep your hands on the wheels while you shift.
 

alfa147x

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Originally posted by: Xyclone
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Honda Fit has paddle shifters?

This. Also if it does, why? I'm sure it is not fast enough to have to keep your hands on the wheels while you shift.

because people (like me ) want more control but not the inconvenience of a manual transmission
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: Xyclone
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Honda Fit has paddle shifters?

This. Also if it does, why? I'm sure it is not fast enough to have to keep your hands on the wheels while you shift.

Paddle Shifters make the car "cooler"
 

angry hampster

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Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Xyclone
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Honda Fit has paddle shifters?

This. Also if it does, why? I'm sure it is not fast enough to have to keep your hands on the wheels while you shift.

because people (like me ) want more control but not the inconvenience of a manual transmission

:laugh:


So you want to be able to shift gears, but you don't want to learn how to work a clutch?
 

yelo333

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CC and MT's are also fun. Things to try:

- Set it for 65mph then slow down and hit resume while in 2nd gear.

- Set it for any speed then disengage, shift to N, hold the revs at ~3k, and hit resume.

Will an AT car's CC downshift to maintain speed if going down a steep hill?

The fit has paddle shifters because it doesn't cost much for honda to add and it makes people like the OP want to buy the car. It's a gimmick. Why not?
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: Xyclone
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Honda Fit has paddle shifters?

This. Also if it does, why? I'm sure it is not fast enough to have to keep your hands on the wheels while you shift.

Have you ever shifted ANY car's auto transmission with the stick? It's not very convenient

If I could have paddle shifters on my Jeep I'd take them. They'd be a boon offroad
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: Xyclone
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Honda Fit has paddle shifters?

This. Also if it does, why? I'm sure it is not fast enough to have to keep your hands on the wheels while you shift.

Have you ever shifted ANY car's auto transmission with the stick? It's not very convenient

If I could have paddle shifters on my Jeep I'd take them. They'd be a boon offroad

That's what I was thinking about my FJ. Paddle shifters would be awesome offroad.

Once you have an electronically controlled automatic there is total freedom concerning the placement of the shifter. You could have a Teddy Ruxpin doll you could toss around the car. Punch its head to downshift, wring its neck to upshift.

On the Fit, the paddle shifters really are a gimmick. I haven't found much use for them yet as I use the Fit almost exclusively in city and urban freeway driving.
 

kalrith

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: Xyclone
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Honda Fit has paddle shifters?

This. Also if it does, why? I'm sure it is not fast enough to have to keep your hands on the wheels while you shift.

Have you ever shifted ANY car's auto transmission with the stick? It's not very convenient

If I could have paddle shifters on my Jeep I'd take them. They'd be a boon offroad

I agree completely. There are times when I want my AT to shift and it doesn't, and there are times when I don't want it to shift and it does. Also, many ATs do not allow you to select all gears. If you specifically need to choose 2nd gear for engine braking while going down a big hill, you're SOL with a lot of ATs that have a choice for 1st and 3rd gears but not 2nd.

Edit: OP, what year Fit is it, and how do you like it? I'm considering replacing my 20mpg SUV with a new Fit in the next year or two.
 

Xyclone

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: Xyclone
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Honda Fit has paddle shifters?

This. Also if it does, why? I'm sure it is not fast enough to have to keep your hands on the wheels while you shift.

Have you ever shifted ANY car's auto transmission with the stick? It's not very convenient

Yes. One of the reasons I liked shifting with the stick is since it reminded me of being in a MT car, which my Cooper S is. But, I meant it in the sense that since F1 cars are so fast, even around the bends, the paddle-shifting saves them precious time, not to mention it is the most convenient place to put the shifter in such a tiny cockpit. But, on a Fit, it's not going to help from a performance standpoint, obviously. I didn't realize the convenience of the placement, though.
 

sdifox

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I do hate how car companies don't agree on which way to place the upshift on the manumatic stick. For me up should be up gear. Subaru puts down as up gear. Threw me off on the test drive, leading to redline :)

edit. Meant to say, pulling the stick should be upshift for me. I put it in backwards so it matched Subaru's setup. Apparently I fail.
 

kalrith

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Originally posted by: sdifox
I do hate how car companies don't agree on which way to place the upshift on the manumatic stick. For me up should be up gear. Subaru puts down as up gear. Threw me off on the test drive, leading to redline :)

I think Subaru has down as up on the window controls as well, so maybe they're just backwards.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: kalrith
Edit: OP, what year Fit is it, and how do you like it? I'm considering replacing my 20mpg SUV with a new Fit in the next year or two.

We've had the 2008 Sport model for about three months and 3k miles. We've currently averaging 32 mpg with a range of 30-36 mpg. AC use and headlight use seem to drive the mileage down. We already ripped the front bumper skirt backing out of the driveway. The car is zippy with good torque off the light but that fades away at ~30 mph. It is definately a city car, very easy to drive. At highway speeds it is noisy and bumpy. So far no mechanical problems. I may get an aftermarket storage armrest for it as there isn't much storage space up front. Stereo works well. If you get one, be sure to get the floor mats and rear deck mat as the carpet looks pretty marginal.
 

Demo24

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Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: sdifox
I do hate how car companies don't agree on which way to place the upshift on the manumatic stick. For me up should be up gear. Subaru puts down as up gear. Threw me off on the test drive, leading to redline :)

I think Subaru has down as up on the window controls as well, so maybe they're just backwards.

Not in my WRX, push to lower and pull to raise.

On the other hand with Subarus manumatic controls, those are more similar to the sequential ways of doing thins. aka, pull to upshift, push to downshift.
 

yelo333

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Originally posted by: ironwing
If you get one, be sure to get the floor mats and rear deck mat as the carpet looks pretty marginal.

If the carpet is like what I've got in my civic, you're right. The mat is very worn down where my right heel sits after ~12k miles. It was noticeable after 5k, and is only getting worse... Since the damage is already done, I'll just wait until I wear it out and then decide what to buy next.
 

Jumpem

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I love the paddle shifters on my Fit. I use them regularly for compression braking.
 

thomsbrain

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I rented a Mazda3 with a manumatic once, and it was fully necessary to use the manumatic function to keep the engine in the powerband and avoid being plastered all over the front of semi trucks. Those little engines have to stay on full boil to move, and as long as you're going to be responsible for choosing the gears from time to time, it might as well be convenient. The Mazda's console-shifter function sucked.

BTW, for console-mounted manumatics, pulling backwards is the "proper" way to select a taller gear, as I think any serious driver will agree, primarily because that is the way a sequential manual operates and also because it mimics the 1-2 upshift. Many companies do this back-asswards, unfortunately.
 

alfa147x

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Originally posted by: angry hampster
Originally posted by: alfa147x
Originally posted by: Xyclone
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Honda Fit has paddle shifters?

This. Also if it does, why? I'm sure it is not fast enough to have to keep your hands on the wheels while you shift.

because people (like me ) want more control but not the inconvenience of a manual transmission

:laugh:


So you want to be able to shift gears, but you don't want to learn how to work a clutch?

I can work the clutch, my dads car is a manual and i can drive it fine but i think that the advantage that paddle shifters have over a stick is connivence and that top priority for me
 

AMCRambler

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The cruise control on my GTO disengages as soon as I depress the clutch. Does the Fit have a clutchless manual transmission or something? I'm not familiar with it.

I guess that if they hadn't set up the cruise to disengage when you pull the paddle shifter then that would make it generate some crazy noises when you tried to downshift. Seems like that's a pretty big design flaw. Would be very easy to kill the tranny if the thing revs to red line in between when you pull the shifter lever and the desired gear engages.
 

kalrith

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: kalrith
Edit: OP, what year Fit is it, and how do you like it? I'm considering replacing my 20mpg SUV with a new Fit in the next year or two.

We've had the 2008 Sport model for about three months and 3k miles. We've currently averaging 32 mpg with a range of 30-36 mpg. AC use and headlight use seem to drive the mileage down. We already ripped the front bumper skirt backing out of the driveway. The car is zippy with good torque off the light but that fades away at ~30 mph. It is definately a city car, very easy to drive. At highway speeds it is noisy and bumpy. So far no mechanical problems. I may get an aftermarket storage armrest for it as there isn't much storage space up front. Stereo works well. If you get one, be sure to get the floor mats and rear deck mat as the carpet looks pretty marginal.

Thanks for the mini review. I'm really impressed with the amount of space they were able to add to the '09 version without sacrificing much, if any, fuel economy. I first became interested in the Fit when I saw how much room there was with the seats folded flat. I found reviews that listed the cargo room of the '09 Fit and that of my '01 Tribute, and the Tribute only has 4 more cubic feet of cargo room (61 compared to 57) with the seats down. This is important to me, because my wife and I travel a lot with our 3 dogs (and soon-to-be son), and we need more space than most/all cars can provide. I'm wondering if the '09 Fit is more stable on the highway. Whenever I test drive one, I'll be sure to take it on the highway to test this. There's a highway less than 2 miles from the Honda dealership.

Originally posted by: DEMO24
Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: sdifox
I do hate how car companies don't agree on which way to place the upshift on the manumatic stick. For me up should be up gear. Subaru puts down as up gear. Threw me off on the test drive, leading to redline :)

I think Subaru has down as up on the window controls as well, so maybe they're just backwards.

Not in my WRX, push to lower and pull to raise.

Actually I think that is backwards. Every other car I've been in has been push (toward the front of the car) to raise and pull (toward the back of the car) to lower. Granted most other cars have the window controls on an incline, so pushing is done up the incline and pulling is done down the incline.
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: AMCRambler
The cruise control on my GTO disengages as soon as I depress the clutch. Does the Fit have a clutchless manual transmission or something? I'm not familiar with it.

I guess that if they hadn't set up the cruise to disengage when you pull the paddle shifter then that would make it generate some crazy noises when you tried to downshift. Seems like that's a pretty big design flaw. Would be very easy to kill the tranny if the thing revs to red line in between when you pull the shifter lever and the desired gear engages.

Ahh cruise control, how I wish I had thee.