Crucial or Mushkin Ram?

[gummiely]

Which is better?
Mushkin High Perf REV1.5 PC133 222 or Crucial part # CT16M64S4D7E

 

[Cypher11]

Mushkin..

 

[slpaulson]

It seems to me that the mushkin rev 1.5 isn't as good as the 2.0 although I don't know the difference. I have my micron -7e ram running 150mhz 2-2-2-5 no problems.

 

[Akaz1976]

whats the last 5 for?

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Crucial, a) cause of cost, its $152

and

b) Crucial 7E overclocks just as well as Rev2 Mosel vitalic. 150-155 CAS2 Overclocking is usually achievable.

That 5 is on P3v4x's(and i'm sure other mb's) and can be changed from 5 to 6. 5 being faster.

Mike

 

[gummiely]

actually.. the crucial ram price has increased recently. it's $180 after shipping costs. the mushkin is $177 after ship fees. so both cost about the same. i'm no expert with ram specs, so that's y i'm asking.. thanks!

 

[konichiwa]

http://www.tweakmax.com/html/mushkin133/mushkin133-1.cfm

We got the Mushkin rev2 to hit 160 @ 2-2-2. I have a stick of this memory in my personal computer, and it is great. I'm at 145 @ 2-2-2 right now, have gone up to 150 but the CPU is unstable.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Konichiwa, he's asking about Mushkin Rev1.5. There are reports of Crucial 7E hitting Cas2 higher, but a safe mark for cas2 both mushkin and 7e is probably 150. For example, insane3d on this board can't get his Mushkin Rev.2 over 146 Cas2. SO it varies by sample.


MIke

 

[John]

The difference between "Mushkin" Rev 1.5 & 2 is the PCB. I would recommend the Mosel Chips over Micron any day.......

 

[Warrenton]

If you have no need for insane FSB's like 150+ then both the REv2 and the crucial are gonna be fine.

 

[gummiely]

yes, i have heard that the rev.2 is good, however i'm only comparing the mushkin rev 1.5 to the to the crucial ram b/c they're priced the same and i wanna know which is better for general usage. i don't plan to overclock b/c this pc is not for my brother, not myself. anyhow, i'll be using a p2 350mhz cpu on an asus p3v4x if that makes a difference. now how is it that the pcb of 1 ram type is better than another? does that have a direct affect on performance?

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Oh, not overclocking... Get whichever is cheaper(this case being the Mushkin, unless you want to PM me for a coupon to Crucial).



Mike

 

[Syborg1211]

wait a minute, if you are not getting the ram for overclocking, dont get it! there are much cheaper sticks of ram out there that can do the standard bus speeds(66,100,133) just as well as the muchkin and crucial ram. There is no point on buying such expensive ram for not overclocking. It just isn'i smart to buy something which you totally dont need for an outrageous price. I bought my muchkin rev2 ram for overclocking, but i am kind of regretting it since i am only running a little higher than 133 mhz bus, and most any value ram (such as kingston value ram) will do a little over 133 easy.

 

[Stytis]

What does the 2-2-2 mean? Sorry for the weak question... but I don't have "junior" tagged on to "member" for nothing? Thanks in advance.

 

[Radboy]

Mushkin service & sppt is legendary. Fast, friendly service.

I have rev 1.5 stuff.

 

[HellRaven]

Stytis:

2-2-2 referrs to the memories "Cas" latency. Basically the lower the cas number the faster the memory can do its thang. You will often hear "cas 2" or "cas 3". Cas 2 would be faster of course. The cas rating is made up of three different elements hence the 2-2-2 (cas2). Some memory can only do 2-3-2 (a little slower than cas2) or 3-3-3 (cas3).

 

[Stytis]

Cool thanks HellRaven... I'll get the Crucial CL2 (CAS2?) RAM.

 

[Syborg1211]

well, you should check up on the mushkin ram again, i was reading in one of the posts how the ram prices just dropped

 

[AntMan]

Im getting a 1GHZ T-bird with a kt7-raid real soon, crucial has my memory on backorder for almost a week, so im thinking about switching, but the memory I was gonna get is :

CT32M64S4D7E CL=2 7.5ns 256 Dimm for $278.99

if mushkin is better, wouldnt thier version of this chip be the

256MB Mushkin High Perf REV2 PC133 222 (Single Module) for 379$

that's a huge price dif, either way I'll prob switch to two modules, but technically aren't those the same type , why such a big price dif?

Thanks
Ant_Man

 

[hans007]

Crucial is better. Plus the mushkin is ESDRAM isn't it so the timing can only be 232. The crucial has been found to run at 166 easily. I've got my pc100 cas2 crucial up to 152cas3. Plus $100 price difference is not something to not consider.

 

[zippy]

If you order mushkin RAM today its a flat rate of $5 shipping. I just ordered my friend's computer parts today and we got two 128MB PC133 Infineon sticks (2x $129+$5= $263 shipped...yum!).

 

[Syborg1211]

i am doing 150 mhz bus at 2-2-2 perfectly

the price differential is because the mushkin is a bitchload better

 

[Mikewarrior2]

I'm sorry, but Mushkin is a bitchload better than cas2 Crucial?

I am getting 151 CAS2 on Crucial 7e. A lot of people get 150mhz CAS2 with Crucial 7E.

Mushkin is a little better, but not worth the gIANT price difference. And not it is not a bitchload better.


mike

 

[hans007]

i still dont understand how it is better. There was a roundup at some site, that said the micron ran at higher bus speed too.

 

[John]

Mushkin charges an arm & leg for their memory. Mosel Vitelic PC133 uses 7ns chips which means 143MHz default. You will always find the "Mushkin" Mosel Rev2 taking top honors in the benchmarks. Just remember that Mushkin doesn't make the memory, they distribute it.

7ns = 143MHz
7.5ns = 133MHz