CRT's selling more than LCD's
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Prices are going up on LCD's because they are becoming too popular. The more in demand something becomes usually helps drop the prices in most cases, but when there is a limited supply available such as the ability to make LCD screens with no or very few bad pixels the price goes up with demand.
Personally I think its great. CRT's have dropped to low prices and still offer better resolution support and image quality across the resolutions. Yep it may take up lots more desk space but nobody in their right mind who is trying to 'stick within a budget' should go for a LCD screen instead of a CRT.
Personally I think its great. CRT's have dropped to low prices and still offer better resolution support and image quality across the resolutions. Yep it may take up lots more desk space but nobody in their right mind who is trying to 'stick within a budget' should go for a LCD screen instead of a CRT.
I haven't even seriously considered an LCD yet because I've been so happy with the 19" CRT I bought for ~$250 2 years ago. If LCDs get even more expensive then it will definitely be awhile before I do consider one. However, it looks like we are finally getting new hardware at work and all of the options have LCDs. If I end up with a 19" Dell Ultrasharp LCD and it rocks I might rethink my position. Unfortunately I don't see one of those coming in at under $300 anytime soon...
No way any LCD is going to match my 22" Compaq with it's DiamondTron tube. Yeah, it's pretty big on my desk but I've got the space so no biggie.
LCDs just dont give a very nice picture compared to CRT's. I think eventually Plasma screens will change this. I wouldnt expect CRTs to die for another 10 years or so.
Maybe true but I'm talking all around value and performance. Crisp text is nice but how about gaming, images, and movie playback? And then there's the cost factor. I got my 22" CRT for $243 to the door.Originally posted by: Mem
I`ve yet to see ANY 22" CRT match my Samsung 191T for text crispness.
Mem
Lifer
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Cost factor is not a problem for me,I can afford a 19" LCD or 22" CRT
as to gaming well I play CS,TFC,UT just fine,I do prefer RPG adventure games(my favourite sort of games) like BG2,IWD2 etc so gaming on my LCD is just fine .As for movie playback I prefer to use my widescreen television over any CRT/LCD.
LCDs will get cheaper and it`ll be interesting to see what happens in 2006 or so when OLED displays start to appear.
"During the past year and a half, companies have made a dramatic shift toward buying LCD monitors rather than CRT monitors. Much of this shift has to do with the versatility of the LCD screen, which is lighter and takes up less desk space than CRTs. "Generally, most companies are trying to transition their purchases over to flat panels, unless there's some specific application where color is very important," says Scott Gray, flat-panel display product marketing manager for Hewlett-Packard. For color, "a CRT is still superior."
The primary advantages that CRTs have over LCDs are superior color reproduction, faster screen response times, and more expansive resolution options. CRTs also offer a greater viewing angle than LCDs at this time. CRTs offer a 90-degree viewing angle, which translates into how close to the center of the screen the user needs to be to see the image clearly. LCD viewing angles are slightly narrower; looking at it from anything greater than an 85-degree angle makes the edges of the screen appear to blacken.
The big advantage with flat-panel LCDs comes from their size. They let users reclaim space on their desktops, even though their offices and cubicles aren't getting any bigger. LCDs also generally reduce eyestrain because they don't flicker (85Hz loses the flicker) like CRTs, HP's Gray says. Some even have the ability to rotate from a horizontal to a vertical display, which is useful when designing page layouts. "
CRT's Rule. Better for Gaming.
The primary advantages that CRTs have over LCDs are superior color reproduction, faster screen response times, and more expansive resolution options. CRTs also offer a greater viewing angle than LCDs at this time. CRTs offer a 90-degree viewing angle, which translates into how close to the center of the screen the user needs to be to see the image clearly. LCD viewing angles are slightly narrower; looking at it from anything greater than an 85-degree angle makes the edges of the screen appear to blacken.
The big advantage with flat-panel LCDs comes from their size. They let users reclaim space on their desktops, even though their offices and cubicles aren't getting any bigger. LCDs also generally reduce eyestrain because they don't flicker (85Hz loses the flicker) like CRTs, HP's Gray says. Some even have the ability to rotate from a horizontal to a vertical display, which is useful when designing page layouts. "
CRT's Rule. Better for Gaming.
Mem
Lifer
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You don`t see flicker at 85Hz (well most people don`t) however
85Hz just means it scans 85 times a second,your eyes will still get eye strain compared to a LCD over time since LCDs don`t actually refresh the same way CRTs do,believe me my eyes with my LCD don`t get tired as quick as my old 19" CRT at 85Hz even staring at the screen all day.
As to gaming,a lot of gamers are happy with 16ms 17" monitors and even slower monitors like mine are ok,it depends on the type of games you play(not all games are fast paced) and how much your eyes notice the ghosting(if any) during gameplay.
I sold my 19" CRT because I `m more then happy with my LCD,I`m not saying LCDs are better then CRTs or vice the versa,it really is what you prefer and what you`re happy with that counts,I know where I stand on this subject
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Nebor
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VIAN is RIGHT! All of us with LCDs should get together and have a huge LCD bon fire! LCDs are AWFUL! The colors are so off, black looks like white! OMG It's awful! I'm just so glad VIAN is here to show us the error of our ways! And he does it out of the goodness of his heart, not because he can't afford a nice LCD! I have to go now, the LCD cancer rays have destroyed my eyes!
lol, funny funny, as long as you learned your lesson that CRT's do have better picture quality than LCD's.
I love my 21" trinitron CRT. I think 98 percent of LCD's are junk.
Given the same price at same screensize, I'd still take a CRT over a LCD anyday.
CRT:
Brighter with better contrast (pure light is pretty tough to beat)
Less than zero millisecond screen refresh (important for gaming)
More accurate colours (RGB is adjustable to your liking)
Can do fullscreen at any resolution without distortion.
LCD:
Smaller, more energy efficient, perfect geometry, uses DVI.
Struggles to get a 1000:1 contrast ratio
Refresh rates are slow anywhere between 20 and 80 milliseconds (for gaming that means the difference between hitting and missing)
Often oversaturated or undersaturated colours.
Will distort or not do fullscreen at any resolution other than the one it is "set" for.
If you are a purist about picture quality, a CRT is still far superior. There is nothing quite like gaming Warcraft3 1800x1440 or 2048x1536 on a largescreen CRT.
Given the same price at same screensize, I'd still take a CRT over a LCD anyday.
CRT:
Brighter with better contrast (pure light is pretty tough to beat)
Less than zero millisecond screen refresh (important for gaming)
More accurate colours (RGB is adjustable to your liking)
Can do fullscreen at any resolution without distortion.
LCD:
Smaller, more energy efficient, perfect geometry, uses DVI.
Struggles to get a 1000:1 contrast ratio
Refresh rates are slow anywhere between 20 and 80 milliseconds (for gaming that means the difference between hitting and missing)
Often oversaturated or undersaturated colours.
Will distort or not do fullscreen at any resolution other than the one it is "set" for.
If you are a purist about picture quality, a CRT is still far superior. There is nothing quite like gaming Warcraft3 1800x1440 or 2048x1536 on a largescreen CRT.
I could easily afford an LCD. But they just arent very good at this time so I am waiting on Plasma screens to come out. Until then Ill continue to buy CRTs.
The only thing I want as a monitor that I can't afford is a Plasma monitor, other than that I have chosen a CRT's when I had a choice earlier in the year.
I don't have an LCD monitor but had a choice between a 15" Dell LCD screen about a year ago and my current 17" monitor. If If I had the money to buy say a new 17" LCD screen, I would indeed start shopping for a new display..... but its more likely to end up being a 21" CRT screen than an LCD screen.
I dont hold a grudge against LCD screens... in fact if anything I am not too in love with my current monitor or some of my past ones, especially while I was at uni... the desk space freed up by an LCD screen would have been much appreciated no matter how much my gaming suffered and no monitor I've had yet offers a perfectly square image or has good enough power regulation so that when areas of the screen change the shape of the picture stays exactly the same (altough thats near impossible). But I want the best quality, not just for gaming or watching films..... I want a screen where if I sit at a different angle, the amount of light I see and the brightness doesn't change.
Oh and by the way, try the circle test on an LCD compared to a CRT monitor. It's quite simple, draw a circle or download this one (don't forget to make sure the image is not being resized by internet explorer, etc.) and view it on both an LCD monitor and CRT monitor and tell me which one you think looks better. The LCD monitor is bound to have more sharper points around the curve where pixels effectively stick out while the CRT monitor will do a lot better job (but still will not be perfect) - the easiest point to see the difference is by looking at the left and right hand side of the circle.
Edit: My apologies to anyone who finds the 1024x768 resolution of the image a problem. I just went for a middle of the road resolution. Most decent LCD's should support it and any 17" monitor or above should be running in that resolution or more for bigger screens.
Don't the 16ms LCDs have low color resolution compared to the 25 ms, forcing you to choose either quality or speed, never both?
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