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us3rnotfound

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Why can't they just make a smaller/lighter one, but keep it 19 or 21"?

I'd buy that any day over an LCD.
 

us3rnotfound

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
We have smaller, lighter monitors. They are called LCD monitors.

Not to nit pick but they all come with several negative aspects depending on the price you pay (LCD Thread).

Is it a fad? Has CRT technology met its limits? Is the whole thing controlled by marketing?
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Why can't they just make a smaller/lighter one, but keep it 19 or 21"?

I'd buy that any day over an LCD.

I never move my monitor so how much is weights means nothing to me. Actually I like it bigger, that way when somebody is cheating in CS:S I can round house my monitor out of frustration and it doesn't even budge. Try that with a LCD lol. When my CRT died I went on Craigslist and bought a replacement CRT. Actually 5 of them, so I have 4 back ups for when the others die and they're hard to find, even used :)

Even the "way less energy" thing is a moot point as I got 5 screens for $100 bucks. I have a huge (literally lol) collection of 21-22" CRT's in my garage. I scour Craigslist about once a week in hopes I'll find somebody locally selling a 24" Sony WS CRT monitor.

CRT might be a very small niche market, but we still exist. If I was rich I would start a new company that made new CRT's. The company would do well and have zero competition. I don't understand why somebody hasn't figured this out. Cater to the people who hate LCD's like myself and you have a market. Hell they could probably get all the needed manufacturing equipment for fairly cheap from a place that use to manufacture CRT's.

 

0roo0roo

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yup, but they gotta compete with lcd and plasma which have been maturing and lower in price for quite a while now. so sed has a hard road to hoe.
 

Red Squirrel

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CRTs are more complex and complicated, and take up more space and weight. Space and weight is actually a big factor as it increases the shipping costs from the factory to the supplier, from the supplier to the store and from the store to the consumer (for online stores).

One thing I wish they did standard with LCDs though is have a glass over it so you can still treat it like a CRT (touch it, clean it with windex, etc). Guess there must be a reason why they can't do that. That's the only thing with LCDs there much more delicate. My cat has left a few marks on mine... she cuddles with it because, she's weird. :p
 

0roo0roo

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resolution density of sed is something i'd like to know as well.
theres no way they could make a 19" if the pixels were all large plasma style for instance. lcds for pcs and laptops can have pretty impressive pixel density on the higher end.
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
CRTs are more complex and complicated, and take up more space and weight. Space and weight is actually a big factor as it increases the shipping costs from the factory to the supplier, from the supplier to the store and from the store to the consumer (for online stores).

One thing I wish they did standard with LCDs though is have a glass over it so you can still treat it like a CRT (touch it, clean it with windex, etc). Guess there must be a reason why they can't do that. That's the only thing with LCDs there much more delicate. My cat has left a few marks on mine... she cuddles with it because, she's weird. :p

They can put glass over it, they chose not to, why I have no idea. I know Neovo makes LCD's with glass. I've seen them in person, pretty expensive but you don't have to be as delicate around them.
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Why can't they just make a smaller/lighter one, but keep it 19 or 21"?

I'd buy that any day over an LCD.

I never move my monitor so how much is weights means nothing to me. Actually I like it bigger, that way when somebody is cheating in CS:S I can round house my monitor out of frustration and it doesn't even budge. Try that with a LCD lol. When my CRT died I went on Craigslist and bought a replacement CRT. Actually 5 of them, so I have 4 back ups for when the others die and they're hard to find, even used :)

Even the "way less energy" thing is a moot point as I got 5 screens for $100 bucks. I have a huge (literally lol) collection of 21-22" CRT's in my garage. I scour Craigslist about once a week in hopes I'll find somebody locally selling a 24" Sony WS CRT monitor.

CRT might be a very small niche market, but we still exist. If I was rich I would start a new company that made new CRT's. The company would do well and have zero competition. I don't understand why somebody hasn't figured this out. Cater to the people who hate LCD's like myself and you have a market. Hell they could probably get all the needed manufacturing equipment for fairly cheap from a place that use to manufacture CRT's.

You love DOS and CRT's. Surprising combo.
 

Baked

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You must love watching those laser disc format movies on your rear projection jumbo CRT TV.
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Why can't they just make a smaller/lighter one, but keep it 19 or 21"?

I'd buy that any day over an LCD.

I never move my monitor so how much is weights means nothing to me. Actually I like it bigger, that way when somebody is cheating in CS:S I can round house my monitor out of frustration and it doesn't even budge. Try that with a LCD lol. When my CRT died I went on Craigslist and bought a replacement CRT. Actually 5 of them, so I have 4 back ups for when the others die and they're hard to find, even used :)

Even the "way less energy" thing is a moot point as I got 5 screens for $100 bucks. I have a huge (literally lol) collection of 21-22" CRT's in my garage. I scour Craigslist about once a week in hopes I'll find somebody locally selling a 24" Sony WS CRT monitor.

CRT might be a very small niche market, but we still exist. If I was rich I would start a new company that made new CRT's. The company would do well and have zero competition. I don't understand why somebody hasn't figured this out. Cater to the people who hate LCD's like myself and you have a market. Hell they could probably get all the needed manufacturing equipment for fairly cheap from a place that use to manufacture CRT's.

You love DOS and CRT's. Surprising combo.

I like easy to use, and I like IQ. Dos is easy for me to use, I grew up on it. And CRT's have better image quality. I don't see how anyone who doesn't care about space would choose an LCD over a CRT, there is no comparing the IQ between the 2. And they have Widescreen CRT's for people who "need" wide screen support.

Tell me what an LCD can do for me? besides provide inaccurate, washed out, over bright colors & piss poor black levels? I use Vista & XP in addition to DOS. But there's no reason for me to use an LCD for anything.
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Why can't they just make a smaller/lighter one, but keep it 19 or 21"?

I'd buy that any day over an LCD.

I never move my monitor so how much is weights means nothing to me. Actually I like it bigger, that way when somebody is cheating in CS:S I can round house my monitor out of frustration and it doesn't even budge. Try that with a LCD lol. When my CRT died I went on Craigslist and bought a replacement CRT. Actually 5 of them, so I have 4 back ups for when the others die and they're hard to find, even used :)

Even the "way less energy" thing is a moot point as I got 5 screens for $100 bucks. I have a huge (literally lol) collection of 21-22" CRT's in my garage. I scour Craigslist about once a week in hopes I'll find somebody locally selling a 24" Sony WS CRT monitor.

CRT might be a very small niche market, but we still exist. If I was rich I would start a new company that made new CRT's. The company would do well and have zero competition. I don't understand why somebody hasn't figured this out. Cater to the people who hate LCD's like myself and you have a market. Hell they could probably get all the needed manufacturing equipment for fairly cheap from a place that use to manufacture CRT's.

You love DOS and CRT's. Surprising combo.

I like easy to use, and I like IQ. Dos is easy for me to use, I grew up on it. And CRT's have better image quality. I don't see how anyone who doesn't care about space would choose an LCD over a CRT, there is no comparing the IQ between the 2. And they have Widescreen CRT's for people who "need" wide screen support.

Tell me what an LCD can do for me? besides provide inaccurate, washed out, over bright colors & piss poor black levels? I use Vista & XP in addition to DOS. But there's no reason for me to use an LCD for anything.

I can't tell you exactly what an LCD can do for you. I can tell you that your grandkids would appreciate how much lighter they are when they set up your next computer for you.

;)
 

Shawn

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CRT monitors suck. Are they still even being made? I always see them out on the side of the street for trash collection (along with CRT televisions). I'm sure you can find one by doing some dumpster diving.
 

us3rnotfound

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Originally posted by: Shawn
CRT monitors suck. Are they still even being made? I always see them out on the side of the street for trash collection (along with CRT televisions). I'm sure you can find one by doing some dumpster diving.

I believe the majority of those must be out of focus Shadow Mask CRTs. Trinitrons never die.
 

QueBert

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BAH! kids now-a-days are lazy ass bastards who don't want to do any hard work, them lugging around my 22" Trintron would teach them a lesson in what it means to sweat and work. I think I'll find an appartment on the 4th floor with no elevator and have them carry it up the stairs.

 

us3rnotfound

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Originally posted by: QueBert
BAH! kids now-a-days are lazy ass bastards who don't want to do any hard work, them lugging around my 22" Trintron would teach them a lesson in what it means to sweat and work. I think I'll find an appartment on the 4th floor with no elevator and have them carry it up the stairs.

Rofl, takes me back to my days at lans with my 21" Sony GPD 540 or something. God that thing was a beast.
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Originally posted by: Shawn
CRT monitors suck. Are they still even being made? I always see them out on the side of the street for trash collection (along with CRT televisions). I'm sure you can find one by doing some dumpster diving.

I believe the majority of those must be out of focus Shadow Mask CRTs. Trinitrons never die.

Mine did. Built 1999, died 2004. It wouldn't turn on. That was when I bought my Dell 1800FP LCD. Never looked back.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Originally posted by: Shawn
CRT monitors suck. Are they still even being made? I always see them out on the side of the street for trash collection (along with CRT televisions). I'm sure you can find one by doing some dumpster diving.

I believe the majority of those must be out of focus Shadow Mask CRTs. Trinitrons never die.

naw they just fade and their image quality advantage turns to sh*t.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Originally posted by: Shawn
CRT monitors suck. Are they still even being made? I always see them out on the side of the street for trash collection (along with CRT televisions). I'm sure you can find one by doing some dumpster diving.

I believe the majority of those must be out of focus Shadow Mask CRTs. Trinitrons never die.

Not true...but there are still CRT's for those willing to pay for them.

Most are putting the money into figuring out how to make LCD better though.

In much of these threads though no one has really used a top tier monitor. Most using LCD's are using crappy panels. Most don't need uber specs though anyway.
 
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
In much of these threads though no one has really used a top tier monitor. Most using LCD's are using crappy panels. Most don't need uber specs though anyway.

This is true. I used be be a CRT fanboy after having played with many low to medium quality LCDs but after using my Dell 2407FPW I could never go back to CRT. Cheap LCDs are crap but quality LCDs are very, very nice. Don't judge LCD quality based on crappy LCDs.