CRT vs LCD

[pinktank]

unless you need to do serious digital photography or image work go LCD, otherwise
look at the sony artisan series, you can't really beat them in their price range.
And anyone talking about lcd's image quality being better don't know what they are talking about(and don't come to me saying but look here's this lcd for 10k, thats not very reasonable)
LCD will tire your eyes less because its refresh is differnet than a crt and therefore the screen doesnt flicker(at least as much), it consumes less power, and it is more nature friendly
So suit your needs, if it wasnt eye tiring, I would get a crt anyday

 

[SonicIce]

Originally posted by: gplracer

It's personal preference. I've got a Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2070 SuperBright that I would not consider replacing with a LCD. Your problem will be finding a quality CRT new .

I have a NEC 2141sb which I believe is the same monitor. It is a great monitor and great for editing photos in photoshop when accuracy is important. That said mine is in the closet. I have a Dell 2405 which is much better for surfing the web and the colors are really nice. It is a little bright when editing photos even at a low setting but I really like it. It is true though that finding a really good CRT is hard. The problem is that an lcd like mine is better than most CRTs. The CRTs that are better are pricey and hard to find. I think my monitor even does games nicely when running at 1680x1050 instead of 1920x1200. Below that they probably would not look good.

2141SB sitting in the closet?? That's so sad 🙁. I would buy it off you if I had more money.

 

[qwqwqw3]

my lcd has better picture quality over my crt but lcds cost a lot for resoulutions over sxga

 

[qwqwqw3]

crts are way better price and response times and dead pixels arent common in crts response times arent much of a problem with crts

 

[araczynski]

I'd get a LCD, the most important reason being that you'll save wear and tear on your eyes, something you can't put a price on.

I use a 24"(ws) dell and 19"(ws) at work, and have a nice 21" crt sitting next to me, i won't touch the CRT anymore due to the headaches i get from looking at it for even a moment when my eyes have gotten used to the LCDs.

Your eyes will thank you, believe me.

 

[Noubourne]

I'm going LCD finally - because I can get a bigger screen size at higher resolutions on LCD. I currently have a 21" Trintron (aka Sony G520) rebranded Dell P1130. I'm moving to a 23" widescreen (the other thing I liked) LCD - the HP L2335. For other users, this will ensure that a bigger, better, less-expensive model is released within 3 months of my purchase.

In considering my decision, drawbacks I found for LCDs include:

Poor black reproduction - this is due to the need for a backlight to light up the pixels. This was probably what kept me on a CRT for so long.
Poor color reproduction - some panels are great, others, not so much. I'm buying an excellent LG S-IPS panel. Problem solved.
Backlight bleeding - not an issue with CRTs. Usually not an issue on a good LCD. Often this is either a problem or not depending on the ambient light in the room, and can be very subjective as well.
Scaling issues - LCDs are always most comfortable in their native resolution. If your media (movie, game, etc) isn't in that resolution, you'll have to scale it. This can be done in hardware (on LCDs with expensive scaling chips) - which means a more expensive LCD, or in software, to varying degress of success and ease. Most modern media should be no problem. Worry about this only if you like to plug in old school games. CRTs can run any resolution they support from top to bottom with no scaling issues.

Most issues vary in importance from user to user. One person won't care, another will be returning the product for an RMA. As you can see from the previous responses, many people are partial to their LCDs. To ignore the issues is just plain insanity though. There are tradeoffs. Not lugging around a 70-lb monitor to yet another apartment (5th in 5 years) was pretty high on my list. I'll be happy to lug the 23-lb 23" widescreen. Save me 50lbs.

Now the only moster tube I have left is my 32" WEGA - that's gonna have to wait a few months though. And I'll probably do plasma, because I like it better than the LCD TVs I've seen.

 

[w00t]

It's a personal prefrence it's a very hard decision I ended up going with an LCD even though at the time I was a compedtive counter-strike 1.6 player

 

[techwanabe]

There is something to be said for boat anchors, er, CRT's. I've always liked how they scale properly to various resolutions by spreading out or compressing the scan lines. But thats probably about the only thing I like about them. When I bought a 19-inch CRT to replace my aging 17-inch, I couldn't even fit the box in my Toyota Camry, and it about broke my back to carry the damn thing. As it was, it had dead pixels (holes that weren't punched out of the mask) and I returned the thing, my back complaining the whole way.

As for flat CRT's, most of the ones I looked at still had this weird convex look to them from the inside of the tube.

Now I have two LCD's and I like them alot.

 

[Noubourne]

Originally posted by: techwanabe
There is something to be said for boat anchors, er, CRT's. .... As for flat CRT's, most of the ones I looked at still had this weird convex look to them from the inside of the tube.

That's weird. I'll have to check for that the next time I'm standing inside my CRT.

 

[techwanabe]

Originally posted by: Noubourne

Originally posted by: techwanabe
There is something to be said for boat anchors, er, CRT's. .... As for flat CRT's, most of the ones I looked at still had this weird convex look to them from the inside of the tube.

That's weird. I'll have to check for that the next time I'm standing inside my CRT.

I do it all the time ... it's really cool!

Anyway, look at the "inside edge of the glass" from the outside, that works too 😉 and I think you'll see what I mean. But then again, maybe I used too many strange substances in my late teens and early twenties. Yeah, thats it!

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Noubourne

Originally posted by: techwanabe
There is something to be said for boat anchors, er, CRT's. .... As for flat CRT's, most of the ones I looked at still had this weird convex look to them from the inside of the tube.

That's weird. I'll have to check for that the next time I'm standing inside my CRT.

some cheap crts didn't have very flat tubes, they cheated the rest of the way with the glass i think making them look strange

 

[Imyourzero]

Originally posted by: Noubourne
I'm going LCD finally - because I can get a bigger screen size at higher resolutions on LCD. I currently have a 21" Trintron (aka Sony G520) rebranded Dell P1130. I'm moving to a 23" widescreen (the other thing I liked) LCD - the HP L2335. For other users, this will ensure that a bigger, better, less-expensive model is released within 3 months of my purchase.

In considering my decision, drawbacks I found for LCDs include:

Poor black reproduction - this is due to the need for a backlight to light up the pixels. This was probably what kept me on a CRT for so long.
Poor color reproduction - some panels are great, others, not so much. I'm buying an excellent LG S-IPS panel. Problem solved.
Backlight bleeding - not an issue with CRTs. Usually not an issue on a good LCD. Often this is either a problem or not depending on the ambient light in the room, and can be very subjective as well.
Scaling issues - LCDs are always most comfortable in their native resolution. If your media (movie, game, etc) isn't in that resolution, you'll have to scale it. This can be done in hardware (on LCDs with expensive scaling chips) - which means a more expensive LCD, or in software, to varying degress of success and ease. Most modern media should be no problem. Worry about this only if you like to plug in old school games. CRTs can run any resolution they support from top to bottom with no scaling issues.

Most issues vary in importance from user to user. One person won't care, another will be returning the product for an RMA. As you can see from the previous responses, many people are partial to their LCDs. To ignore the issues is just plain insanity though. There are tradeoffs. Not lugging around a 70-lb monitor to yet another apartment (5th in 5 years) was pretty high on my list. I'll be happy to lug the 23-lb 23" widescreen. Save me 50lbs.

Now the only moster tube I have left is my 32" WEGA - that's gonna have to wait a few months though. And I'll probably do plasma, because I like it better than the LCD TVs I've seen.

Bah. Go DLP then. Of all the comparisons I've read, plasma is the least favored of the 3 technologies. My GF's parents have a 42" plasma and TBH the picture on my LCD is superior. But you can't go wrong with DLP either.

 

[networkman]

CRTs have their place - inexpensive is a good reason. In fact I just bought a pair of CRTs this past weekend... cost me $30 each for a Compaq P1100(21") and a Dell P1130(21"). Perfect for what they're going to do - they're for the spare PCs I have at home for use by friends who come over for LAN parties, so they have the option of not lugging their monitors over if they don't want to. 🙂

If I were buying new though, I'd definitely go with an LCD as others have said mainly because of the lower power requirements and ease of moving them around.

 

[iamaelephant]

It's funny how so many people are talking about the eye strain of using CRT monitors and how they can't use them for long periods of time. Two or more entire generations of gamers grew up playing on CRT monitors and we it's not like they didn't spend as much time on their computers as you guys. Are gamers getting less resiliant or are LCDs making games in wusses now?

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
It's funny how so many people are talking about the eye strain of using CRT monitors and how they can't use them for long periods of time. Two or more entire generations of gamers grew up playing on CRT monitors and we it's not like they didn't spend as much time on their computers as you guys. Are gamers getting less resiliant or are LCDs making games in wusses now?

They may have not even realized it until they felt how much more comfortable an LCD was.

 

[araczynski]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
It's funny how so many people are talking about the eye strain of using CRT monitors and how they can't use them for long periods of time. Two or more entire generations of gamers grew up playing on CRT monitors and we it's not like they didn't spend as much time on their computers as you guys. Are gamers getting less resiliant or are LCDs making games in wusses now?

They may have not even realized it until they felt how much more comfortable an LCD was.

exactly, i started pc gaming with 14" CGA monitors, and finally caved in to my first 17" lcd about a year ago, i would NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER go back 🙂 i'm a cheap ass, and i'd even pay twice as much for a smaller lcd then a bigger crt.

 

[Sandan]

My LCD is a 19inch Widescreen.....I am really pleased with it and I wouldn't consider a CRT again. I was one who had a lot of eye strain on the CRT. I can remember playing Diablo until my eyes watered. I would go to bed and my eyes felt like they were burning out of my head. Those days are gone. I have had the LCD for a week now and have a hard time pulling myself off it. And NO eyestrain.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
It's funny how so many people are talking about the eye strain of using CRT monitors and how they can't use them for long periods of time. Two or more entire generations of gamers grew up playing on CRT monitors and we it's not like they didn't spend as much time on their computers as you guys. Are gamers getting less resiliant or are LCDs making games in wusses now?

They may have not even realized it until they felt how much more comfortable an LCD was.

I have a 200 dollar CRT and a 1000 dollar LCD.
The CRT is better.
Sharper. More vibrant color. Better resolution scaling. And its exactly the same on my eyes. The only reason I went for the LCD is its a 23-inch widescreen, nice for work.
23 or 24 inch wide CRT's are very large and heavy. Right now the ONLY advantage LCD's have is size and weight, and maybe power consumption if thats an issue.
They're not good enough, not yet. We still need 32-bit color as a standard, we need much better refresh, contrast and dot pitch. I dont like seeing pixels. Thats why I run higher than 640x480.

Incidentally, that LCD is the BEST I've ever seen in my life, and I've had a lot of people show off their LCD's to me.

 

[Hadsus]

Hehehehee.......LCDs hurt my eyes. Too bright. So it's all abuncha BS that they are better for everyone yada, yada. I tried a Dell 2001fp....two of 'em in fact and both went back. Now, me and my NEC Multisync 22" CRT are fast friends. In fact it's been a year and a half and I haven't died from brain cancer, suffered migranes, or gone postal. Much more natural light. Oh, and BTW LCDers out there. I can change the resolution to whatever I want. Whenever I want. LOL.......you know you miss it. 🙂 😀

 

[Hadsus]

Originally posted by: Imyourzero

Originally posted by: Noubourne
I'm going LCD finally - because I can get a bigger screen size at higher resolutions on LCD. I currently have a 21" Trintron (aka Sony G520) rebranded Dell P1130. I'm moving to a 23" widescreen (the other thing I liked) LCD - the HP L2335. For other users, this will ensure that a bigger, better, less-expensive model is released within 3 months of my purchase.

In considering my decision, drawbacks I found for LCDs include:

Poor black reproduction - this is due to the need for a backlight to light up the pixels. This was probably what kept me on a CRT for so long.
Poor color reproduction - some panels are great, others, not so much. I'm buying an excellent LG S-IPS panel. Problem solved.
Backlight bleeding - not an issue with CRTs. Usually not an issue on a good LCD. Often this is either a problem or not depending on the ambient light in the room, and can be very subjective as well.
Scaling issues - LCDs are always most comfortable in their native resolution. If your media (movie, game, etc) isn't in that resolution, you'll have to scale it. This can be done in hardware (on LCDs with expensive scaling chips) - which means a more expensive LCD, or in software, to varying degress of success and ease. Most modern media should be no problem. Worry about this only if you like to plug in old school games. CRTs can run any resolution they support from top to bottom with no scaling issues.

Most issues vary in importance from user to user. One person won't care, another will be returning the product for an RMA. As you can see from the previous responses, many people are partial to their LCDs. To ignore the issues is just plain insanity though. There are tradeoffs. Not lugging around a 70-lb monitor to yet another apartment (5th in 5 years) was pretty high on my list. I'll be happy to lug the 23-lb 23" widescreen. Save me 50lbs.

Now the only moster tube I have left is my 32" WEGA - that's gonna have to wait a few months though. And I'll probably do plasma, because I like it better than the LCD TVs I've seen.

Bah. Go DLP then. Of all the comparisons I've read, plasma is the least favored of the 3 technologies. My GF's parents have a 42" plasma and TBH the picture on my LCD is superior. But you can't go wrong with DLP either.

You've read wrong. Go to the AVS forum. A couple of years ago the posts in the rear projection forum (DLPs and LCD rear projectors) far exceeded that of flat panels. Now it is reverse. People are going to plasma in droves now that the prices have dropped. And you can't get a flat panel LCD much over 40 inches....the PQ is still inferior to plasma and it costs more. And in the flat panel discussion it's pretty clear what people are buying (plasma>>>LCD flat panels). And DLPs? It's no contest. Many many people still see rainbows and the color is not nearly as saturated and vibrant. People that do the research and have the $$$ go plasma. If you don't have the money you go elsewhere, like DLPs. I have a 50" plasma.

 

[Talcite]

Well for color fidelity and dot pitch is almost always better if it's CRT. All the professional image editors use CRTs, what you see is what you get. However, for everyone else, I'd say LCDs are better, especially about the eyestrain part. Oh and well most people can't afford plasmas for monitors =p. I'm not even sure if plasmas have the fidelity of a crt.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Hadsus
Hehehehee.......LCDs hurt my eyes. Too bright. So it's all abuncha BS that they are better for everyone yada, yada. I tried a Dell 2001fp....two of 'em in fact and both went back. Now, me and my NEC Multisync 22" CRT are fast friends. In fact it's been a year and a half and I haven't died from brain cancer, suffered migranes, or gone postal. Much more natural light. Oh, and BTW LCDers out there. I can change the resolution to whatever I want. Whenever I want. LOL.......you know you miss it. 🙂 😀

The NEC 22" CRT was one of the best CRTs made. It will be hard to impress someone with that monitor. 😉

I'm in the same boat. I've got a Sony G500 and like I said, the ONLY LCD I can see that would be an upgrade would be Dell's 30". I just want something bigger. And the extra resolution wouldn't hurt either. 🙂

 

[bX510]

I think todays technology for LCD is superior to CRTs. After getting my Viewsonic 19" VA1912wb (WIDESCREEN BABY!), CRT will be never a part of my life again. Also CRT's are troubleosme because of the size.

 

[Imyourzero]

Originally posted by: Hadsus
Hehehehee.......LCDs hurt my eyes. Too bright. So it's all abuncha BS that they are better for everyone yada, yada.

That is why they make brightness and contrast controls. Right?

And I personally don't think being able to switch resolutions is a huge deal. My 2001FP scales very well but 99% of the time it stays at 1600x1200 because that's how I like it. 🙂

 

[evenmore1]

I've always stuck with CRT's, but only because they are cheap 🙂 Hey I got this 17" Flat CRT for $99!! (a few years ago) I mean for the money CRTs are good. However LCDs are definitely the way to go now. The quality of LCDs are improving, and I can see it when I'm at a friends house. They have a Samsung 4ms model and it is awesome! Plays games without a hitch. Plus LCDs look better on a desktop than a CRT, less bulk, less space, no border, great looks!! I will definitely switch to LCD for my next build!!

Also glare is a problem for CRTs. I have a 55" Mitsubishi CRT HDTV. The thing is a beast. The living room looked very empty with a 27" Sony CRT so we got this. Yeah, we can put HDTV tuners, Playstations, DVD players, and other electronics. It's totally great! 😉


The light from the windows during the day and afternoon provides a lot of glare when I watch TV. It drives me CRAZY!!! I can barely see parts of the screen!!! At least for movies and games at night it totally rocks! 😀

edit: I said LCD when I meant CRT.