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crossfire benchies

For this first look we have run a limited set of benchmarks focused upon 1280x1024 screen resolution, so chosen because it is the standard resolution for the vast majority of LCD screens on the market.
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Err if your playing at that resolution then crossfire/SLI will do virtualy nothing for performance even with AA/AF turned up.

Anyway not bad considering its STILL early days. But we need more benchmarks and at higher resolutions with AA/AF.
 
Originally posted by: ayabe
Maybe there is more benefit at higher resolutions, :shrug:
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of course there will be 😛

and AT did a short review on it a while back, and were very impressed...
 
Hmmm- this doesn't bode well for ATI.

My 3dmark05 was higher with 6800GTs in SLI than this rig with X850XTs?
 
not alot off point in that article seen as they used 12x10 and not very stressful games

FEAR @ 12x10 probably would of been a better test. still SLI looks alot more elegant....that dongle setup is ghetto!
 
Originally posted by: Rollo
Hmmm- this doesn't bode well for ATI.

My 3dmark05 was higher with 6800GTs in SLI than this rig with X850XTs?
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Because 3D Mark gives any indication of anything?
<-- 19k with 9800/Barton @ 2400MHz
<-- 22k with 7800GT/Venice @ 2000MHz

Actual game performance? Twice as fast with the 7800GT system, basically (UT2004 -> higher speed, higher res, more details, HL2 -> double speed AND higher res/details)
That was with 01, but 3D Mark is pretty much useless, as many agree, except for showing where there is a big problem with a system (like a 10k score in 01 with anything 9800 or newer and a half decent CPU)
 
We have to consider the immature state of the drivers as well, Xfire is supposed to trounce SLI(according to ATI talkign heads), so we're back to the waiting game.
 
Originally posted by: Rollo
Hmmm- this doesn't bode well for ATI.

My 3dmark05 was higher with 6800GTs in SLI than this rig with X850XTs?
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ummm, is there a possibility that you are using a different processor? looks like an intel setup from the pic so there is a good chance that you have the faster CPU....
 
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
not alot off point in that article seen as they used 12x10 and not very stressful games

FEAR @ 12x10 probably would of been a better test. still SLI looks alot more elegant....that dongle setup is ghetto!
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Personally I would say 2 cards is more elephant.
 
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
not alot off point in that article seen as they used 12x10 and not very stressful games

FEAR @ 12x10 probably would of been a better test. still SLI looks alot more elegant....that dongle setup is ghetto!
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More ghetto than having to flip the chip around and "clipping" on a flimsy little circuit bridge? I say it's a push. 😛
 
Originally posted by: jazzboy
For this first look we have run a limited set of benchmarks focused upon 1280x1024 screen resolution, so chosen because it is the standard resolution for the vast majority of LCD screens on the market.
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Err if your playing at that resolution then crossfire/SLI will do virtualy nothing for performance even with AA/AF turned up.

Anyway not bad considering its STILL early days. But we need more benchmarks and at higher resolutions with AA/AF.
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I have not looked at the site yet, probably will. However, from what I have read about 3D Mark 2005, is that it is GPU limited at the default settings. If that is the case, then XFIRE & SLI should really shine in that particular benchmark, which it does. Therefore, it is my conclusion that the 3D Mark 2005 scores would not change percentage wise from its counterparts by simply increasing the resolution. With that said, 3D Mark 2005 is certainly not real world performance.

Just wanted to clarify this though.
 
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
not alot off point in that article seen as they used 12x10 and not very stressful games

FEAR @ 12x10 probably would of been a better test. still SLI looks alot more elegant....that dongle setup is ghetto!
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More ghetto than having to flip the chip around and "clipping" on a flimsy little circuit bridge? I say it's a push. 😛
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You actually don't have to do either anymore with SLI. I don't have the flip chip thing on my motherboard. When I add a second card, I have to boot to let the system recognize the card, then reboot, and that's it. The circuit bridge is also no longer necessary, although it does offer better performance than without it. Another thing to consider is that all the connections for SLI are internal to the PC, whereas you have to "CrossWire" the cards with ATI. Honestly, either method is acceptable IMO, but I think you should get your facts straight before knocking SLI.
 
Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
not alot off point in that article seen as they used 12x10 and not very stressful games

FEAR @ 12x10 probably would of been a better test. still SLI looks alot more elegant....that dongle setup is ghetto!
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More ghetto than having to flip the chip around and "clipping" on a flimsy little circuit bridge? I say it's a push. 😛
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You actually don't have to do either anymore with SLI. I don't have the flip chip thing on my motherboard. When I add a second card, I have to boot to let the system recognize the card, then reboot, and that's it. The circuit bridge is also no longer necessary, although it does offer better performance than without it. Another thing to consider is that all the connections for SLI are internal to the PC, whereas you have to "CrossWire" the cards with ATI. Honestly, either method is acceptable IMO, but I think you should get your facts straight before knocking SLI.
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Well guess what, I have an SLI board that has a chip as do a lot of people, so for me it's a necessity. Also, I was just trying to add a little humor, you need to chill the F out.

Edit - Furthermore this is also the first iteration of crossfire, so I am comparing it to what WAS required in first gen SLI, game..set..match.
 
so for me it's a necessity.
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but, not for SLI... Sorry, but you aren't the standard that the computer industry is measured by. It depends on the implementation, which is left up the the motherboard manufacturer. This is obvious by the fact that even before Asus came out with the A8N-SLI Premium, there were a few different methods for switching modes. I really don't think that the SLI spec calls for any specific type of method for swtiching between single and SLI modes. So, if motherboard manufacturers choose to implement it with a chip to flip (probably to save time/money), that doesn't necessarily mean that it is required for SLI.

I am also comparing current implementations, since the past is history... Why should we compare 1 year old NV tech to tech that ATI hasn't even released yet? That is hardly fair... While we're at it, why not run a few benchamrks between a 6800GT and an unreleased X1800 XTPE..? Sounds about right...

I was just trying to add a little humor, you need to chill the F out.
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game..set..match.
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Nice... You can make a point, but if I give you a bit of a rebuttal, I'm supposed to chill out so you can post self-declared pwnage...
 
Originally posted by: nitromullet
so for me it's a necessity.
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but, not for SLI... Sorry, but you aren't the standard that the computer industry is measured by. It depends on the implementation, which is left up the the motherboard manufacturer. This is obvious by the fact that even before Asus came out with the A8N-SLI Premium, there were a few different methods for switching modes. I really don't think that the SLI spec calls for any specific type of method for swtiching between single and SLI modes. So, if motherboard manufacturers choose to implement it with a chip to flip (probably to save time/money), that doesn't necessarily mean that it is required for SLI.

I am also comparing current implementations, since the past is history... Why should we compare 1 year old NV tech to tech that ATI hasn't even released yet? That is hardly fair... While we're at it, why not run a few benchamrks between a 6800GT and an unreleased X1800 XTPE..? Sounds about right...

I was just trying to add a little humor, you need to chill the F out.
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game..set..match.
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Nice... You can make a point, but if I give you a bit of a rebuttal, I'm supposed to chill out so you can post self-declared pwnage...
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Not at all, you are taking offense at me bashing SLI when I was doing nothing of the sort. The fanboyism needs to be checked at some point.
 
Internal versus external connection is less important than compatability and quality, nevermind price/performance. The NVIDIA system requires game-specific code, while ATI's does not, n'est ce pas? Additionally the former does not allow dual displays if I recall, which would be a hassle switching to 'n' fro.
 
What's up with people claiming Crossfire is "new" or has "immature" drivers. Crossfire was supposed to be ready in June!
 
Originally posted by: trinibwoy
What's up with people claiming Crossfire is "new" or has "immature" drivers. Crossfire was supposed to be ready in June!
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Some folks cant think about things unless those things are right in front of their eyes. Xfire drivers have had since June (and probably a good ways longer) to mature whether or not Xfire setups have been available for sale or not.

 
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