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Crossfire beats SLI in Doom 3?!

PrayForDeath

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I find this hard to believe. And I was wondering, why do the europeans always get to test the hardware first? Especially that the companies are based in USA.
 
well there is barely any difference between the 6800U and the X850XT so it is possible at high resolutions.
 
SLI still beats it at 1280x1024...I don't think people who are shelling out the money for SLI/Crossfire are going to want to run their games at 1024x768. It'll be interesting to see the rest of the benchmarks though.
 
well the x850xt is a bit better than the 6800ultra, so it kinds works out, but there are hardly any big differences in the technologies.
 
I find it impressive that it runs that fast at all. There's probably still a lot of performance that can be tweaked out of the Crossfire platform as the drivers mature.
 
Would be nice to see it at higher resolutions. Basically they're bottlenecked by cpu at those resolutions with those monster cards.
 
its standard, surprisingly, yet it shows off no feautres the setups can do since its so easy at that. they should set 12 x 10 as standard and 16 by 12 as higher, then you get the performance hits.
 
Originally posted by: JBT
1024x768? thats astupid res to bench at...
well, it looks like they only had a 17-19" LCD to bench with, thus were limmited to 1280x1024.

Looks like LCD manufacturers are going to have to get cranking on the 24" 1920x1200 screens 😉

promising, but it is too bad we didn't have the crossfire option 6 months ago - competition for SLI and demand for more than one high end card very well could have driven prices down all around. Ultra and XT prices might have remained high due to low yeilds, but dual XL and GT setups could have been more of a resonable high end option (albeit not super elite highend)
 
Is it just me, or do those framerates seem a little low?

The ones for the 12x10 with 4x8x seem about what Anand and other sites were getting for 16x12 with 4x8x.

Yep definitely something strange there. Comparing to AT's findings on the X850 launch, those numbers are way off, Text. Figuring in driver advancements made between now and then and those numbers seem even less reasonable (the ones from the OP's link).
 
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Is it just me, or do those framerates seem a little low?

The ones for the 12x10 with 4x8x seem about what Anand and other sites were getting for 16x12 with 4x8x.

Yep definitely something strange there. Comparing to AT's findings on the X850 launch, those numbers are way off, Text. Figuring in driver advancements made between now and then and those numbers seem even less reasonable (the ones from the OP's link).

Those framerates make no sense at all if they were using the standard Doom3 demo:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=881152
I'm getting 67fps at 16X12 4X8X on 6800GT SLI, they're getting 50fps at 12X10 4X8X? Has to be they had the vsynch on, used a different demo, or have downclocked their FX CPU. It makes no sense.
 
Originally posted by: PrayForDeath
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I find this hard to believe. And I was wondering, why do the europeans always get to test the hardware first? Especially that the companies are based in USA.

ATi aren't based in the USA.
Unless Canada just because part of the USA?
 
Those framerates make no sense at all if they were using the standard Doom3 demo:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=881152
I'm getting 67fps at 16X12 4X8X on 6800GT SLI, they're getting 50fps at 12X10 4X8X? Has to be they had the vsynch on, used a different demo, or have downclocked their FX CPU. It makes no sense.

http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=article&dId=773

Here is the same test in an English article. Yes, they used a different test then the standard D3 benchmark.
 
Since Nvidia have far better OpenGL support i would take them results with a pinch of salt, and its not normally Euro that gets stuff b4 USA, i see it as asia gets 1st, they can preorder amd64 dual core cpu's now and i get stuff from Australia well b4 i can get anywhere else, im in UK btw.
 
*gasps* Oh no..2fps. Come on, now. Realistic benchmark #'s, from anyone that pays attention, are acceptable within a 2fps or so buffer/variance. There's no clear winner, and saying that it 'beats' the SLi setup is superfluous at best.

It appears to me to be a dead heat.
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: PrayForDeath
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I find this hard to believe. And I was wondering, why do the europeans always get to test the hardware first? Especially that the companies are based in USA.

ATi aren't based in the USA.
Unless Canada just because part of the USA?

Okey, North America.
 
we'll have to wait and see how it performs in other games but judging on this game it looks like crossfire may edge out the SLI setup.
 
Originally posted by: PrayForDeath
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: PrayForDeath
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I find this hard to believe. And I was wondering, why do the europeans always get to test the hardware first? Especially that the companies are based in USA.

ATi aren't based in the USA.
Unless Canada just because part of the USA?

Okey, North America.

ATi has offices in Redmond.
 
I wouldn't be surprise if ATi Crossfire had an edge over SLi. Nvidia pushed the technology out first. ATi had lots of time to groom and improve it. I can only assume Nvidia will try to improve theirs as well. Either way one can only expect a tougher decision on which GPU manufacture to choose from.
 
lol.. and the fanboys have something to grasp at....

seriously.. regardless of which is faster, at 1024 there should be little difference between running aa/af and not; the bottleneck at this point is the cpu, not gpu -- at that res, aa/af or not, it's not much stress on a video cards of this caliber (let alone 2 of them). take a look at the dozens of bencmarks available on the internet, and you'll see there is almost no difference at that resolution when running aa/af...

it's certainly possible that ati may have somehow gained a small edge (tho even if these benches are accurate, it's still more parity than anything else; xfire loses by the same amount at 12x10) an edge, but these paricular benchmarks are highly suspicious at best.
 
Originally posted by: Emultra
Isn't an X850XT more expensive than an Ultra?

Usually the X850XTs can be found for about $450 (the PEs are usually about $550). Figure in the extra cost of the X850 Crossfire card (is what $550) so they're really about even in price ($1000 total).
 
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