Crohn's Vaccine

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

Originally posted by: richardycc
because it is more profitable to treat the disease than to cure or prevent it.

QFT

Sad, but true.

Yeah because there are so many treatments for crohns.....
:roll:

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

Originally posted by: richardycc
because it is more profitable to treat the disease than to cure or prevent it.

QFT

Sad, but true.

Yeah because there are so many treatments for crohns.....
:roll:

you must have missed the memo. there is absolutely nothing cooler than being cynical on the internet.

 

[jpeyton]

One cheap vaccine, or a lifetime worth of Crohn's medication...which one would pharmaceutical companies rather sell?

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
One cheap vaccine, or a lifetime worth of Crohn's medication...which one would pharmaceutical companies rather sell?

If I can sell my cheap vaccine, I really don't care if I cut into your medication products.

And even if there is a vaccine at some point, you paranoid types will say the vaccine doesn't really work and no one should take it because the chances of getting Crohn's are so low anyway.

 

[roguerower]

One of my sister's really good friends has it bad and she's only 20 years old. She wasn't able to graduate high school and going to school is hard when she sometimes has to quit a semester halfway thru because she gets a flare-up.

She is one of the nicest girls I know but her body is being ravaged by this.

+1 for it being a rare disease with no one "popular" having been diagnosed and backing it.

 

[Circlenaut]

FYI:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...with_Crohn%27s_disease

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Pippy
FYI:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...with_Crohn%27s_disease

Whoa, George "The Animal" Steele. Probably got it from eating all those turnbuckles.

 

[wulfeyez]

The research has been highly researched properly by one man! A specialist whom should have retired years ago but carried on to prove his 'theory' and get rid of this horrid disease. And he recieves no support from the medical community OR from any charities. Why?... because the vaccine will destroy drug companies profits on IBD drugs and the charities supposedly supporting people with crohn's will be out of a business & thus everyone employed by them out of a job (they don't work for free). His funding comes from private people whom have family members with IBD, so yes he needs your support to complete the vaccine trials both in terms of financial support but also in spreading the word aobut it.

The Prof's research is sound. Watch any of the youtube clips of his lectures about MAP. To understand the vaccine you have to understand the cause which he clearly explains and it is common sense once you realise.

 

[oiprocs]

If this vaccine ever came to fruition there would be a lot of happy people in this world.

Though I guess the same could be said for any uncured disease.

 

[Nik]

Crohn's Vaccine:

 

[oiprocs]

Crohn's Vaccine:

I don't get it.

 

[Gibsons]

The research has been highly researched properly by one man! A specialist whom should have retired years ago but carried on to prove his 'theory' and get rid of this horrid disease. And he recieves no support from the medical community OR from any charities. Why?... because the vaccine will destroy drug companies profits on IBD drugs and the charities supposedly supporting people with crohn's will be out of a business & thus everyone employed by them out of a job (they don't work for free). His funding comes from private people whom have family members with IBD, so yes he needs your support to complete the vaccine trials both in terms of financial support but also in spreading the word aobut it.

The Prof's research is sound. Watch any of the youtube clips of his lectures about MAP. To understand the vaccine you have to understand the cause which he clearly explains and it is common sense once you realise.

The profits the ebilbigfarmas make on Crohn's is hardly a blip on their balance sheet. A perfect vaccine that works 100% of the time will not make a dent in their profits for even a single quarter.

The case for MAP causing Crohn's is still unsettled. There's evidence both ways. Trials using drugs known to be effective against MAP provide no long term benefits as compared to placebo controls. A quote from the study:

Although there was a short-term benefit of the antibiotics at 16 weeks additional to the effect of corticosteroid therapy, the study showed no prolonged advantage of the antibiotic combination either during the 2-year treatment phase or, importantly, after therapy was stopped.

Even if someone comes out with a perfectly effective vaccine, we'll then here about how the ebilbigfarmas are pushing a dangerous vaccine for a disease that's too rare to worry about. Virtually no one will take it, look at any thread on this forum about influenza vaccination. If there is a vaccine it's the evil drug companies pushing it on us. If there isn't a vaccine, it's the evil drug companies suppressing research and information.

Finally the suggestion that someone has been ostracized from the research community because of this idea is silly. If you read reviews on the subject, they're calling for more research into the subject, not less. They're talking about unknowns that need to be investigated not a witch hunt. One example:

In view of recent genomic findings that implicate altered innate immune responses to intracellular bacteria in the aetiopathogenesis of Crohn's disease,4 the effect seen in this trial may be telling, and suggests the value of further studies, both fundamental and clinical, on the role of mycobateria in Crohn's disease.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Thread necros!!!!