no new news yet. After pushing to 1.85V the results weren't as good. The copper was getting nice and warm. So my thought here is that finer and more wire will allow the heat to get out to the air. As it is now, the cheapy 120 fan I guess wasn't so cheap (Yate Loon) and was putting out some good air. When I used a 92mm the temp was up. Still I'm motivated because 1.85v and a Duron 650@1050 puts out a lot of watts and I'm pretty convinced I can make this design perform. Had to fill in for our Data Admin guy at work this week so, haven't been able to get down to the electrode supplier during business hours. Should only take a couple hours to put together the next one. For sure I'll let everyone know. Got to beat that UGLY Swiftech ha ha. What gives with all that shine and symmetry? God I'm gonna puke. ha ha