Criticize Bush, get on "no-fly" list

[seemingly random]

I wonder if all the posters here (and other similar boards) are on a 'special' list... The expenditure of my tax money for this would make me feel warm and fuzzy.

 

[SigArms08]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
This is the kind of stuff that really makes me sick, it's a direct attack on democracy. Any time the government is allowed to use it's powers for no other purpose than to silence critics, it is a direct assault on our freedom and democracy.

Much like what the Dems want to do with talk radio.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Didn't want to start another thread on the no-fly list, but here's an article about a guy on the no-fly list. He's a retired ANG brig general, and Airline pilot who is certified by TSA to carry a handgun on his flights, but still on the no-fly list.

To further show how worthless this list is, I quote from the article:

Capt. James Robinson said he has learned that "Jim Robinson" and "J.K. Robinson" are not on the list.

And Griffin has tested its effectiveness. When he runs his first and middle name together when making a reservation online, he has no problem checking in at the airport.

So run your first/middle name together, and you are fine. Abbreviate your first name, and you are fine.

So why do we even have a no-fly list if the simplest of measures can totally nullify it? This is what we pay billions for?

Edit: whoops, forgot the link: CNN

 

[ScottFern]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
The fact that there are over a million people on the no-fly list just makes the whole thing worse, Fern- not better.

The very existence of such a list is shameful, and the acceptance of it even moreso. The whole thing speaks very poorly of the general public's ability to reason, and to reject authoritarian fearmongering.

Think it through. What's the real practical difference between somebody whose name is "on the list" and anybody else who passes normal airport security screening? How can one be held to be a greater security risk than the other? Given that passengers will no longer allow hijacking, what sort of terrorist act could anybody perform that would serve their purposes better than just blowing themselves up in the security pens at the airport?

What's next? A "no passport" list, so you can't even leave the country? A super-sekrit "no driver's license" list, because you might be another Timothy McVeigh? A sekrit "No fishing license" list because you might use it as cover to poison a water supply? How about a "no vote" list because you're politically opposed to those currently in power, and pose a "security risk" to their continued leadership, which is, of course, a threat to "National Security" of the worst kind?

Wake up. Just because Big Brother wraps himself in Old Glory, carries a Cross and says he's here to pertekt you doesn't mean he's not Big Brother...

If we're not willing to bear the real but minor risks of living in a relatively free society, we won't be, bet on that.

Amen. Hallelujah! Couldn't of said it better myself!

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

OH THE FUCKING IRONY.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/....watch.list/index.html