Crippled Presidency

Lalakai

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The legitamcy of this election is already a lost cause. At this point it would be more beneficial to have your opponent win; no one will support a president that came to office with less then %50 of the popular vote, and had to have the court system intrude on the election process.

Politics had always slightly nauseated me, but this brings us to a new low and highlights the patch-work balloting systems that each state uses and supports.

Whoever wins -Gush or Bore-, will operate w/o a popular mandate and the animosity of the other side as there will always be the belief that Florida was "stole" by local politics.

Wanna lay any bets on their chance of re-election in 4 years???????
 

fdiskboy

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Puh-lease. The American people have a very short memory when it comes to this kind of thing.

Also, when HALF YOUR VOTING POPULATION STAYS HOME how can anyone have a mandate, even if they win 95% of the vote. People just don't care. They're disgusted by politics and see no reason to bother themselves by voting and/or getting involved in any way, shape or form.

Mandate, shmandate; popular, shmopular.
 

Russ

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<< no one will support a president that came to office with less then %50 of the popular vote, and had to have the court system intrude on the election process. >>



Wrong. This argument, although popular, has no historical merit at all. What happens after the winner assumes office will be far more important then how they got there. The American public will give whomever is elected time to prove themselves before passing judgement.

Russ, NCNE
 

ride525

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<< What happens after the winner assumes office will be far more important then how they got there. The American public will give whomever is elected time to prove themselves before passing judgement. >>



I hope so....and think so....
 

Lalakai

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Russ, normally I would agree, especially as was noted that the public has a very short term memory. But this particular election all hinges on one specific state where the political system makes Daly's system look like a newbee.

Clinton pissed off many people who originally supported him and they were hoping for a presidency that would restore their faith in the system; and this is what we are getting.

Nope, too many enemies are being made right now; Solomon would be hard pressed to unite these factions, and we definitely are lacking Solomon in our present situation. The next four years are gonna be miserable for whoever wins.
 

StageLeft

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Russ - thats probabaly true if the president (probabaly bush) does a good job; if he does a bad job people won't let him forget that less than half of the country wanted him in.
 

Russ

Lifer
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Skoorb,

That's my point. &quot;Pass judgement&quot; is generic. That judgement could be bad, it could be good. Just depends on performance and likeability in office. Either way, the route by which the destination was achieved will, in the long run, be unimportant.

Russ, NCNE
 

StageLeft

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Well I hope for everybody's sake that Bush does a good job - I have a mutual fund that is primarily based in US companies so you guys better keep the economy good or else Canada is gonna come down and kick some ass.:p
 

creedog

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Nobody seemed to mind that Clinton recieved 43 precent in 1992 and 49 percent in 1996.
 

DefRef

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The Congressional Democrats seem to know that Gore's toast and would be willing to deal with Bush, particularly to force him to live up to his &quot;uniter, not a divider&quot; rhetoric.

If Gore is able to jimmy the system and steal the election, the GOP will give him NOTHING and refer to him as an usurper. Gridlock city. (Not that it's a bad thing.)

The only reason Bush didn't win resoundingly was due to last-minute dirty tricks (the DUI) and the unease that many voters, had that he was a little too interested in Pokemon. The people don't like Gore and will view a Gore &quot;victory&quot; to be more of the same criminal behavior that they've had to put up with for the last eight years.
 

etech

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Red &quot;And what kind of scientific survey are you privy too so you can make such a statement without worrying about sounding like a knucklehead?&quot;

If everyone on this board had to document and prove their statements it would be a very quiet board. You would probably be one of the first to leave.