Crime

[anxi80]

Neil McCauley: You see me doin' thrill-seeker liquor store holdups with a "Born to Lose" tattoo on my chest?
Vincent Hanna: No, I do not.
Neil McCauley: Right. I am never goin' back.
Vincent Hanna: Then don't take down scores.
Neil McCauley: I do what I do best, I take scores. You do what you do best, try to stop guys like me.

 

[TridenT]

Originally posted by: irishScott
Well then you basically take the problem out of the problem. From what I can tell you just asked "if we have the system, could we use it?"

The problem is creating a system like that in the first place. The political outrage alone would make it impossible. Remember how pissed people were when they found out about Bush's international phone tapping? Imagine that x eleventybillion.

I think the system would be pretty easy... It would just take a lot of storage and good compression. You don't have to save the video in a raw-uncompressed format.

Idk, it would be a bit expensive but could pay off immensely.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: TridenT

Originally posted by: irishScott
Well then you basically take the problem out of the problem. From what I can tell you just asked "if we have the system, could we use it?"

The problem is creating a system like that in the first place. The political outrage alone would make it impossible. Remember how pissed people were when they found out about Bush's international phone tapping? Imagine that x eleventybillion.

I think the system would be pretty easy... It would just take a lot of storage and good compression. You don't have to save the video in a raw-uncompressed format.

Idk, it would be a bit expensive but could pay off immensely.

But how much do you want to store? Days? Weeks? Months? Years? Investigations can go on for as long as all of the above. All of that compressed data from 10s of (if not 100s of) thousands of cameras adds up.

You also need to standardize everything across 10s of thousands of corporations. If you think that's easy, lol.

 

[DrPizza]

Then you build some software that gathers all that video into a nice stream for the end-user and you just process it.

bwahahaha! You watch too much CSI

"Okay, there's the getaway car in the background. Zoom in on the license plate. It's only 1 pixel? Well, enhance that pixel. Great. Put up the infrared and ultraviolet filters at the same time. Can you get that fingerprint from the image of the license plate?"

 

[TridenT]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Then you build some software that gathers all that video into a nice stream for the end-user and you just process it.

bwahahaha! You watch too much CSI

"Okay, there's the getaway car in the background. Zoom in on the license plate. It's only 1 pixel? Well, enhance that pixel. Great. Put up the infrared and ultraviolet filters at the same time. Can you get that fingerprint from the image of the license plate?"

Um, no... It's plausible.

I am not doing anything like CSI's "enhance" function... Seriously, it's not like I am trying to do something like in Blade Runner either... "Enhance... Enhance.. enhance..."

It's very possible.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Nope. I could make a good plan, but somewhere in the execution, I'd fuck it up.

this. Planning is great, but execution has so many variables, many of which are out of your control. A small, tiny, mistake is all it takes for you to be taken out.

 

[Wag]

Forensics have come so far in the past 20yrs it's almost impossible to pull off the "perfect crime" and the world is a better place for it.

 

[Andrew1990]

I could. I have come up with many good plans I could do. I am just a pussy though.

Like dressing up as a electronic store employee and just walking out with a big screen TV saying I am bringing it to a customers car, possibly having a friend act as the customer and walk with the cart.

Of course I dont like taking risk.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Then you build some software that gathers all that video into a nice stream for the end-user and you just process it.

bwahahaha! You watch too much CSI

"Okay, there's the getaway car in the background. Zoom in on the license plate. It's only 1 pixel? Well, enhance that pixel. Great. Put up the infrared and ultraviolet filters at the same time. Can you get that fingerprint from the image of the license plate?"

And reverse the polarity of the isodyne relays!

Originally posted by: Wag
Forensics have come so far in the past 20yrs it's almost impossible to pull off the "perfect crime" and the world is a better place for it.

No, that just means you're not trying hard enough.

 

[Wag]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Wag
Forensics have come so far in the past 20yrs it's almost impossible to pull off the "perfect crime" and the world is a better place for it.

No, that just means you're not trying hard enough.

I bet you wouldn't be saying that when you're up for lethal injection and they find you innocent because of DNA evidence. That's the difference two decades makes. Twenty years ago you'd be dead.

 

[irishScott]

This is probably going to sound fairly stupid, but wouldn't pulling off a murder be fairly simple (if not easily executed)?

1. Wear full body suit with gloves/mask.
2. Use throwaway weapon. (probably bought illegally, something not registered)
3. Break into house at night.
4. Kill victim.
5. Run before cops arrive.
6. Throw weapon away as far from murder site as possible.
7. Burn all clothing worn during murder.
8. ...
9. Profit?

Alright 8 and 9 were kinda bad, but I couldn't resist.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Wag

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Wag
Forensics have come so far in the past 20yrs it's almost impossible to pull off the "perfect crime" and the world is a better place for it.

No, that just means you're not trying hard enough.

I bet you wouldn't be saying that when you're up for lethal injection and they find you innocent because of DNA evidence. That's the difference two decades makes. Twenty years ago you'd be dead.

But if I'm found innocent of the crime because I didn't commit it, then that doesn't make me a poor or sloppy criminal, it makes me collateral damage.

Yeah, forensics has come far, but that just means you might have to take 10 simple precautions instead of 3.

 

[DainBramaged]

I believe I could get away with it. That said, were I ever to try, it'd be for a personal reason and then I probably wouldn't get away with it.

 

[HannibalX]

There are plenty of folks who never get caught... only the stupid ones do.

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: irishScott
This is probably going to sound fairly stupid, but wouldn't pulling off a murder be fairly simple (if not easily executed)?

1. Wear full body suit with gloves/mask.
2. Use throwaway weapon. (probably bought illegally, something not registered)
3. Break into house at night.
4. Kill victim.
5. Run before cops arrive.
6. Throw weapon away as far from murder site as possible.
7. Burn all clothing worn during murder.
8. ...
9. Profit?

Alright 8 and 9 were kinda bad, but I couldn't resist.

It's a good thing that as individuals in a lawful society (read not in a war zone) most people are relatively good (on a scale of 1 to murder). Cause as you mention the act of murder in and of itself is not that hard to get away with. The vast majority of murders are crimes of passion where there is a motive. That's why serial killers tend to get away with it for so long.

 

[AstroManLuca]

I think you're underestimating the skill level of your typical criminal. Yes, there are some stupid-ass criminals that are either caught easily (providing us with those wonderfully entertaining "dumb criminal" stories) or who should be caught but get lucky WRT the police being overworked and not paying attention.

So I might be smart enough not to make one of those typical "dumb criminal" mistakes, but there are probably a ton of other little things that veteran criminals are aware of all the time that wouldn't even enter my mind. Even one tiny mistake could result in my being caught, and without the extensive experience of a seasoned criminal, it'd be pretty likely for me to make one of those mistakes. It's like, have you ever spoken or worked with someone at a menial job who's been doing the same job for years and years? Know how they notice all sorts of tiny little things about what they do that a casual observer would never pick up on? It'd be like that.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: LS21

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
The vast majority of crimes are unsolved.

word. even murder

im highly confident i can kill (random) and get away with it

According to the FBI, about 40% of murders are unsolved each year.
So not a vast majority, but definitely a larger percentage than I thought it would be.

Of course, I'm sure the unsolved percentage is higher for other crimes.