Crime down in Detroit (because police have basically stopped arresting)

[Paddington]

Something along these lines:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb...3010308/1008/OPINION01

Speakers advocating for the deal were taunted by the crowd and cut short by Council President Monica Conyers, who presided over the hearing like an angry bulldog; whites were advised by the citizens to, "Go home."
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Opponents were allowed to rant and ramble on uninterrupted about "those people" who want to steal Detroit's assets and profit from the city's labors.
A pitiful Teamster official who practically crawled to the table on his knees expressing profuse respect for this disrespectful body was battered by both the crowd and the council.
When he dared suggest that an improved Cobo Center would create more good-paying jobs for union workers, Conyers reminded him, "Those workers look like you; they don't look like me."
Desperate, he invoked President Barack Obama's message of unity and was angrily warned, "Don't yousay his name here."

 

[BarneyFife]

There is no need to beat around the bush. Detroit is what happens when you let black people run a major city. Its a corrupt ghetto.

 

[Paddington]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
There is no need to beat around the bush. Detroit is what happens when you let black people run a major city. Its a corrupt ghetto.

Hey man, not necessarily. In Ohio, I think all the cities except Toledo right now have black mayors, and none of them are in the same shape as Detroit, not even Cleveland. In the South there's black run Atlanta, which has its share of squalor, but also has a good track record of creating wealth and jobs. Black run Washington used to be like Detroit, but has made strong progress in recent years.

Detroit's problem is the real "us vs. them" mentality, which precludes the black political class from working with the suburban white business class, choosing instead to continually wage their grievances over what might have happened to their grandparents back in the 1940's.

If Detroit's citizens vote for leaders based on growth oriented performance, then I think Detroit can turn around, though it will never regain its 1950 peak, not in 100 years, not ever. If people there keep voting for the biggest, ugliest, most repugnant God damn thug like Kwame Kilpatrick, then there's nothing to look forward to except more population losses, as even Detroit's blacks are quietly fleeing en masse. Dave Bing's election is a positive step, but like I said the city council remains, as well as the non-performance union way of doing things so prevalent in Michigan.

Oh I see you live in Detroit. I'm actually moving there soon for a job. For every 50 people losing their job and moving out, I'm the one that's getting a job and moving in.

 

[JSt0rm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U6jMhjwY_o#

shrug I like Detroit...good music.

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: Sacrilege

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: Sacrilege
I have heard that if African Americans ran America it would be like Somalia. Is this true? Is Detroit a small experiment of that which has turned a city into Mogadishu?

I would also like to concur with Paddington's post. Why establish a business in a bland middle America city when you can build in a more vibrant, coastal city with natural advantages (sea access, appeal to young workers, appeal to foreigners, etc.). Hinterland cities must have economic advantages to offset these differences and Detroit apparently doesn't have these advantages.

And from the Youtube videos, it seems the local government is kind of kooky. That is a huge disincentive to business, similar to the risks of doing business in a third world nation with shaky government and legal establishment.

An African American does run America.

And some would say America is going downhill under his watch. We certainly are approaching banana republic like fiscal policy.

And does Obama really make all the decisions? Or is he kind of the aggregate spokesman of White dominated political interest groups and a White dominated cabinet?

It's not Obama's fault w/r to America's decline. We've been declining pretty steadily since the late 90s. Earlier than that if you count other measures such as health care, public education, public infrastructure, etc etc.

 

[Leon]

Place looks fine to me

Beautiful architecture, amazing views, and looks to be very eco-friendly

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: Paddington
Something along these lines:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb...3010308/1008/OPINION01

Speakers advocating for the deal were taunted by the crowd and cut short by Council President Monica Conyers, who presided over the hearing like an angry bulldog; whites were advised by the citizens to, "Go home."
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Opponents were allowed to rant and ramble on uninterrupted about "those people" who want to steal Detroit's assets and profit from the city's labors.
A pitiful Teamster official who practically crawled to the table on his knees expressing profuse respect for this disrespectful body was battered by both the crowd and the council.
When he dared suggest that an improved Cobo Center would create more good-paying jobs for union workers, Conyers reminded him, "Those workers look like you; they don't look like me."
Desperate, he invoked President Barack Obama's message of unity and was angrily warned, "Don't yousay his name here."

I've been looking for this article, but I remembered it as being a video which explains why I couldn't find it. The following paragraph I found to be quite chilling.

"Speakers advocating for the deal were taunted by the crowd and cut short by Council President Monica Conyers, who presided over the hearing like an angry bulldog; whites were advised by the citizens to, "Go home."

If GM survives, I sincerely hope they move their HQ to Warren. I hope that the auto show is moved to the suburbs. If it's their city, then fine, leave it to them. The inevitable bulldozing of the city needs to be accelerated. The sooner it's torn down, the sooner the rebuilding can begin.

 

[Paddington]

Obama ain't gonna allow GM to leave to Detroit. If you believe he doesn't call the shots there like he claims, I have a discount Victorian mansion on 7 mile road to sell you...

 

[wkabel23]

those city council videos are embarassing...especially the one where they have to adjourn. monica conyers seems like a nutbar.

oh god. I just read about her on wikipedia. /facepalm

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: wkabel23
those city council videos are embarassing...especially the one where they have to adjourn. monica conyers seems like a nutbar.

oh god. I just read about her on wikipedia. /facepalm

If there wasn't a lot of documentation about it, I wouldn't believe it.

Conyers stated that Kenyatta needed to "learn how to talk a woman", to which Kenyatta replied that when he was with a woman, he will do so.

Owned, biatch.

She is a nightmare.

 

[ScottyB]

Roll 'em up!

 

[NeoV]

wow, there are some ignorant people here

"There is no need to beat around the bush. Detroit is what happens when you let black people run a major city. Its a corrupt ghetto" - if that's not sarcasm, it should = ban.

Then there is PJ, blaming Detroit's situation on - you guessed it - liberals - nevermind Chicago, SF, or dozens of other major US cities largely run by ....liberals...for long periods of time.

Paddington - I would argue that the 'situation' for blacks in Detroit is/was no different than the situation for blacks in plenty of other major, northern, US cities - you'll find a history of riots and mistrust in many places, not just Detroit.

Those of you talking about geographic 'disadvantages' - what? Other than a city on the Atlantic or Pacific ocean, Detroit has - great lakes access - Canada on the other side of a bridge - some of the best, cleanest outdoor areas in the country in N.Michigan, 2 major universities, and pretty close to Chicago.

Of course, blaming the situation on China/Clinton is just as bad.

Any city that puts too many of it's eggs in one basket - Cleveland and the steel industry, Akron and the rubber industry, Detroit in the auto industry - is going to suffer when those industries suffer, it's not complicated. Add-in a boatload of completely incompetent people, elected by largely uneducated people, and you get Detroit. After New Orleans, it's next in line for needed a complete overhaul - I agree with the plan to buy huge tracts of land and wipe them clean, and start over.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Perhaps there should be a clause in the constitution allowing the federal government, with a 2/3 vote, to suspend local elections and place a local government in conservatorship run by appointees. That seems to be about the only way to even begin to turn Detroit around, and that is saying alot about Detroit to think the federal government might be able to do a better job.

 

[Paddington]

Here's another one of Detroit's many wonder's, the giant Uniroyal Tire:

http://maps.google.com/maps?cl...&cbp=12,68.29,,0,-2.69

8 storey's tall that one.