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Credit card interest rate soars to 69 percent

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Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: CPA
play with snakes and you're going to get bit eventually.


This is why I disagree with many folks on here who advocate using "other people's money". Too many times things don't go as planned and before you know it you're defaulting on something and getting hit hard. Pay with cash and you will NEVER have this problem.

Wrong. Credit is a key to life if used properly.

Save it for mortgages and car payments. If you can't pay your CCs on time in full you better have a good reason. Otherwise they aren't for you.

What if you make some day-to-day charges on it, and make payments one or two times per week to earn rewards on a card with no annual fee?
 
I cant say how many times over the years I have done this 0 percent financing deal. Sears, Lowes, Circuit City and over Christmas I bought a $2000 diamond ring at Gordons Jewlers 0 percent for 12 months.

They ONLY way you should do something like this is if you are absolutely sure you WILL pay it off and ALREADY HAVE the money laying around to pay it off if the need arises.....

Are you on the ragged edge of paying your other monthly bills and the minimum payment will be a stretch? THEN DONT DO IT......

Simple.....

 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: PingSpike
For some reason I thought there was a law that prevented CC companies from charging more then like 30% interest.

Some states do. I read a story about some soldiers that bought laptops at like 229% 😱

most of those are from payday loan type places. there are diffrent laws for short term loans etc.

This one wasn't. It was a stand at the mall in clarksville, selling a $1000 computer for about $2000 on a 36 month contract. Rates were over 200% but obviously buried deep in the contract. That adds up to ~$13,000

wow. thats just insane.

Yeah, the worst part was that they signed legally binding contracts. The military base still stepped in and helped re-negotiate the contract to some extent. But the idiots that fell for it still paid quite a bit of money. And of course, the base integrated this story into their training.

 
Didn't read the card member agreement I see. Not surprised. Also agree that the 69% is misleading.

Most all of those zero percent store deals will nail you with interest on the entire purchase no matter the balance if not paid in full.
 
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: CPA
play with snakes and you're going to get bit eventually.


This is why I disagree with many folks on here who advocate using "other people's money". Too many times things don't go as planned and before you know it you're defaulting on something and getting hit hard. Pay with cash and you will NEVER have this problem.

Wrong. Credit is a key to life if used properly.

Save it for mortgages and car payments. If you can't pay your CCs on time in full you better have a good reason. Otherwise they aren't for you.

There are cases where using your CC even when you can't pay it in full immediately can be very beneficial too though. For example, I am using my CC in the form of a cash advance to help pay the expenses that it will take for me to close on a home. I have a fully blown out plan A, B, and even a C to make sure that any of the debt I accumulate as a result will get paid off and that there is almost zero chance of making any late payments. I could simply wait another 6 months or so to save that money up in cash, but then I would need to think about all of that extra rent money I would be paying during those months when it could be used towards a mortgage on a house instead. Sure, I will lose some money on interest, but not anywhere near as much as I will be losing by paying those rent checks.

Beyond that and other selective reasons and emergencies I tend to agree with you though.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Didn't read the card member agreement I see. Not surprised. Also agree that the 69% is misleading.

Most all of those zero percent store deals will nail you with interest on the entire purchase no matter the balance if not paid in full.

It's funny that in this case we (ATOT) mostly agree that the 69% is misleading. It's funny because the Truth in Lending Act requires the lender to call it 69%, since to say "20% + a whole bunch of fees and back interest" was deemed misleading by too many people and caused the TILA to be passed in the first place!
 
Originally posted by: CPA
play with snakes and you're going to get bit eventually.


This is why I disagree with many folks on here who advocate using "other people's money". Too many times things don't go as planned and before you know it you're defaulting on something and getting hit hard. Pay with cash and you will NEVER have this problem.

If you have the money in the bank BEFORE you buy anything on credit, and you have automatic bill payment set up, you have the same safety.

I don't advocate floating a balance with the assumption that your next paycheck will cover it, or using a "promotional period" to pay for something that you couldn't afford otherwise.
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: JS80
no usury laws in that state?

I was wondering the same thing.

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
They weren't charged an insane amount of interest for just that 1 month payment. They were charged all of the accumulated interest for the months they had no payments at all. This is very common: buy something at 0% for 12 months, and if you don't pay it off in 12 months you pay ALL of the interest it accumulated along the way.

Ah so, the way it's stated in the article is somewhat misleading.

Very misleading and irresponsible reporting.
MrDudeMan is right. These offers don't just all of a sudden start charging interest from when the offer ends. If you don't meet the offer requirements by paying it all off before the offer ends then you get whacked with all the interest from the previous months as well.

People using this deal look out.
People reporting on this should do research before trying to make the company look bad for the purchaser's stupidity.
 
It doesn't sound like their interest rate is 69% at all.

In small print on their January bill, the interest rate read 69.33 percent.

Home Depot says if a cardholder isn't able to pay the promotional balance in time, then the accumulated interest can make the interest rate look extremely high. However, the cardholder's rate never changes from what it is in their agreement.

The 69% was a one month "catch-up" rate to retroactively apply all of the interest that had been waived on the condition that they paid on time each month. They are not paying 69% interest. This is not usury, this is should not even be a story. This is a pretty well-known clause in promotional credit deals - if you default, the promotion becomes invalid from the start.
 
Originally posted by: PingSpike
For some reason I thought there was a law that prevented CC companies from charging more then like 30% interest.

while the law just passed, our good buddies the credit card lobbyist made sure it had like a 2 year date till it goes into effect. Besides, for this story if I read it correct the 69% interest isn't the actual monthly interest but the compounded effect from them not paying off a promotional 0% interest bearing balance.
 
Originally posted by: CPA
play with snakes and you're going to get bit eventually.


This is why I disagree with many folks on here who advocate using "other people's money". Too many times things don't go as planned and before you know it you're defaulting on something and getting hit hard. Pay with cash and you will NEVER have this problem.
I agree with you, this mantra has been institutionalized and ingrained in our economic system over the last years that it has usurped the original Puritan Ethic of Save and Pay Cash that originally made this country, and by extension our economic system, strong.

This consumer has taken draconian measures to pay down consumer and auto debt and will be debt free in less than 90 days, provided the bottom doesn't fall out. 😀
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: CPA
play with snakes and you're going to get bit eventually.


This is why I disagree with many folks on here who advocate using "other people's money". Too many times things don't go as planned and before you know it you're defaulting on something and getting hit hard. Pay with cash and you will NEVER have this problem.

If you have the money in the bank BEFORE you buy anything on credit, and you have automatic bill payment set up, you have the same safety.

I don't advocate floating a balance with the assumption that your next paycheck will cover it, or using a "promotional period" to pay for something that you couldn't afford otherwise.

How adults don't have any cash boggles my mind. I don't understand how anyone could be paycheck to paycheck. My wife and I don't make a lot of money but we'd be able to pay our bills for a long time.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
It doesn't sound like their interest rate is 69% at all.

In small print on their January bill, the interest rate read 69.33 percent.

Home Depot says if a cardholder isn't able to pay the promotional balance in time, then the accumulated interest can make the interest rate look extremely high. However, the cardholder's rate never changes from what it is in their agreement.

The 69% was a one month "catch-up" rate to retroactively apply all of the interest that had been waived on the condition that they paid on time each month. They are not paying 69% interest. This is not usury, this is should not even be a story. This is a pretty well-known clause in promotional credit deals - if you default, the promotion becomes invalid from the start.
Yes indeed, That little asterisk at the end isn't decoration. There's a whole alligator pit full of fine print for you where it's asterisk buddy is hiding.
I once bought some gear at Guitar Center on a promo deal. Didn't pay attention to that due date and got whammed with the accrued payments. Once that happens, it's best to get it back on a payment schedule before you get into a default / repo situation.
These people get no tears from this Alligator Hunter.

 
Originally posted by: waggy
ok yes they are idiots. but i feel %69 should be against the law. that is insane.

Blame Ronald Reagan. It was during his administration that the previous law regulating interest to a max of 12% was undone.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: waggy
ok yes they are idiots. but i feel %69 should be against the law. that is insane.

Blame Ronald Reagan. It was during his administration that the previous law regulating interest to a max of 12% was undone.

This has nothing to do with Ronald Reagan or even 69% interest rates. The people had a deal, which they broke, and were assessed penalties for the breach.

The Truth in Lending Act, which was passed to make lending agreements more easily understood by borrowers, is in this case obfuscating the issue. TILA requires that the back interest and penalties owed be factored into the quoted rate, which causes they EAR (Effective Annual Rate) to balloon to 69% even though the APR is a much less staggering ~20%.
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
No sympathy. These people are morons.

THIS!

Originally posted by: JS80
no usury laws in that state?

it's the promo offer fine print.

if you fail to pay off all of what you owe by the end of the promo period, you get back charged for all the interest from day 1.

idiots that dont read the fine print
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: waggy
ok yes they are idiots. but i feel %69 should be against the law. that is insane.

Blame Ronald Reagan. It was during his administration that the previous law regulating interest to a max of 12% was undone.

Republicans also took away the deductibility of credit card interest from your taxes.
That's a tax cut that should be restored in my opinion.

There will always be morons, it is part of the govts job to protect morons from predatory companies.
 
Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: waggy
ok yes they are idiots. but i feel %69 should be against the law. that is insane.

Blame Ronald Reagan. It was during his administration that the previous law regulating interest to a max of 12% was undone.

Republicans also took away the deductibility of credit card interest from your taxes.
That's a tax cut that should be restored in my opinion.

There will always be morons, it is part of the govts job to protect morons from predatory companies.

*ONLY* if it's in our best interest. If it somehow ends up costing us (collectively speaking) more money, then yes, gov't should step in. In this case, the only result is some morons paying thru their ass for furniture.


If you cap CC rates at 12% (or some other arb. rate), then you'll get an a ton of people complaining left and right that they can't get credit cards. The reason why CC companies charge such a high rate is because they (on average) don't recover anywhere near the balance owed.

So either everyone is able to get a CC and people with bad credit get ripped at huge APRs, or few people CCs and aprs will be lower.
 
They did not pay 69%.

If you take six months of interest deferred, then bill it all at once, then annualized it may appear as 69% that one billing cycle.

$10, $10, $10, $10, $10, $10 may show 20% each month

$0, $0, $0, $0, $0, $60 will cause month number six to look ridiculous because six months worth of interest is being displayed on one bill. $60 over six statements is maybe 20% each stmt, $60, $50 of which is really from prior bills, being placed on a single statement may annualize to 69%
 
As previously stated this is very misleading reporting, fees and retroactive interest will throw that number way up but it's not an accurate representation of their APR. Reported is dumber than the people.
 
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