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Creative not very innovative...They should get the boot!!!

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Brian48

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These rumors were started by another anti-Creative nitwit who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. How so many of you nimrods bought into it is beyond me. From 3dspotlight.com.



<< SoundBlaster Audigy is NOT fake
by Thomas @ 1:50 PM - [Comments]
I see some idiot on the Mad Onion Forums has gone & managed to re-dig up a similarly idiotic post on some Asian website claiming the Audigy is not much more than a Live as they managed to install the Drivers for it onto the Live. As a result I see a whole load of other websites spring onto the BS wagon.
1. Creative have already stated they are working on making a "universal" driver for the Audigy & Live!
2. They are NOT the same DSP.
To put this into a clearer perspective what they would be saying with were this related Graphics cards is that a TNT = GeForce 4 as they can use the same drivers.
It's fairly disheartening to see the "serious" websites jumping all over this though. On a related note you can ignore the "Turn Your Creative SB Live! 2 SB Audigy!" story over on Warp2Search.
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I can't believe this idiotic post ever got started.
 

FishTankX

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<< --Warning Begining Rant--
I've never been too impressed with Creative's lack of customer respect, and this article makes me think that they aren't doing anything to change that image...
How new is the Sound Blaster Audigy?
The article basically states that the EMU 10K2 chip that powers the Audigy might(emphasis on the might) be nothing more than a SB Live! chip with IEEE 1394 support!!!

If this is the case, what are they doing selling the Audigy cards for so much $$$???? Furthermore what are us enthusiasts doing supporting them and their poor driver/tech support by buying it??? (Myself included :( ) I'm frustrated by the lack of innovation Creative has demonstrated in their Audigy....Sure the IEEE 1394 port is GREAT, and it certainly is a higher quality card than the SB Live!, but with 3 years in between the two I am starting to wonder whether they have lost focus on us consumers?

Remember 3dfx? They made great stuff too, but that same attitude toward consumers eventually got them entrenched in their own arrogance and they went under...At the risk of being a pessimist, I hope Creative has a similar fate!!

Maybe I am whiner and a complainer but I would like to suggest that some other company, ie nVidia, ATI, VIA, or those already in the sound cound industry like Phillips or Turtle Beach really take a stab at producing a sound product that is leaps and bounds ahead of the rest... I mean I want a super tricked out sound processing chip with a built in two way radio or somethin!!!...Thats just an example but it would be cool cause then I could call up buzz my dorm buddies when I want to go eat with them!! Maybe the competition would inspire Creative to do something more than beat around the bush for 3 years while milking consumers for every dime they have...

Yeah I know Im a crybaby but I look at the strength of the vid card industry and I see healthy competition and innovation from both ATI and nVidia, some of their products can get expensive, but they continue to support the customer AFTER the purchase. The same could probably be said for AMD and Intel. The bottom line is those companies have earned my trust....Sorry Creative but if the rumors are true, you have lost mine!
--End Rant--
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It's *impossible* that it's the same chip. Have you see the audigy blow the live out of the water in CPU utilization? In some situations, the Audigy is over 2000% faster than the live! How do you explain that?! I've never *EVER* *EVER* seen a company pull off 2000% performance enhancments through a driver tweak!

 

XMan

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I find it strange that on one hand you have people blaming Creative for the VIA issue, and on the other you have people blaming VIA. Since the problem (AFAIK) doesnt exist with Creative and any other chipset, and the Live cards came before the VIA chipset, I think the blame would have to lie with VIA. Im not sure what Creative could do to solve the situation.

It has problems with the Intel 815 chipset as well. The SB Live is not built to PCI specs, it wants more bandwidth than is called for in the specs.
 

ssanches

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<< Creative made the Live! card, which was amazing for its time, the 5.1 was not innovative, and the Audigy has less improvements then the 5.1. I have completely switched off of live cards because of their extremely poor drivers, the fact that they don't offer decent web support, their customer service stinks, and they are expensive.
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I just hope that Creative gets thorougly bashed for it's shady driver support. Having the best H/W without drivers is an irony. And I also hope Creative learns from this and develops better drivers rather than their craptastic LAVA media player, OOZIC, and all the thrash they bundle with their products instead of good driver support! :disgust: