creative meets competition with razor sound

[fire400]

http://www.razerzone.com/Products/Gamin...Razer-Barracuda-AC1-Gaming-Sound-Card/

 

[acegazda]

Looks lke an xfi killer... it's not out yet is it?

 

[PurdueRy]

::laughs at all the made up Razor terms for their "technology"::

We have been hearing about this for many months now and it has been discussed prior to this.

 

[fire400]

Originally posted by: acegazda
Looks lke an xfi killer... it's not out yet is it?

no, but the longer they wait, the more people will buy the x-fi, I for one thing have convinced myself that the x-fi has enough horsepower to drive just about any speaker setup for maximum workload of amps for the watts with the proper equipment. power a football statium with one x-fi card and massive ten thousand dollar speakers from an optical out, amen.

trance concert with seperate lines for the bass, treble and vocal production, it's over for any club that wants to cry out their thousand dollar stereo systems. I could do it with the x-fi card and a 2 thousand dollar sound system.

 

[Operandi]

On board HD-audio is the final nail in the coffin of consumer level sound cards.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: fire400

Originally posted by: acegazda
Looks lke an xfi killer... it's not out yet is it?

no, but the longer they wait, the more people will buy the x-fi, I for one thing have convinced myself that the x-fi has enough horsepower to drive just about any speaker setup for maximum workload of amps for the watts with the proper equipment. power a football statium with one x-fi card and massive ten thousand dollar speakers from an optical out, amen.

trance concert with seperate lines for the bass, treble and vocal production, it's over for any club that wants to cry out their thousand dollar stereo systems. I could do it with the x-fi card and a 2 thousand dollar sound system.

riiight...

 

[cmdrdredd]

Still...most of the games I play support EAX HD and no soundcard outside of a Creative brand can playback this

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Still...most of the games I play support EAX HD and no soundcard outside of a Creative brand can playback this

That is a sad fact...

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Still...most of the games I play support EAX HD and no soundcard outside of a Creative brand can playback this

That is a sad fact...

You can thank Creative for that

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Still...most of the games I play support EAX HD and no soundcard outside of a Creative brand can playback this

That is a sad fact...

You can thank Creative for that

Doesn't bother me... X-FI is perfectly fine for most people and gamers. If you need more you move up to a pro audio solution.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Still...most of the games I play support EAX HD and no soundcard outside of a Creative brand can playback this

That is a sad fact...

You can thank Creative for that

Doesn't bother me... X-FI is perfectly fine for most people and gamers. If you need more you move up to a pro audio solution.

Its a shame so many consumers have a similar mindset to you. Just because its good enough for you doesn't mean you shouldn't want more for your money. Not only that but you're basically saying that you are happy with pretty much a monopoly (yes I know its not really and Creative will never even be accused of such), in a market (computer hardware/software) where competition is the biggest factor driving advancements.

 

[acegazda]

The monopoly of creative needs to be broken. Xfi isn't really cost effective, escpecially the higher end models. This just represents the beginning (we hope) of a crusade of new audio cards and chips that will make HD sound like $30 for a good card. We can only hope.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Still...most of the games I play support EAX HD and no soundcard outside of a Creative brand can playback this

That is a sad fact...

You can thank Creative for that

Doesn't bother me... X-FI is perfectly fine for most people and gamers. If you need more you move up to a pro audio solution.

Its a shame so many consumers have a similar mindset to you. Just because its good enough for you doesn't mean you shouldn't want more for your money. Not only that but you're basically saying that you are happy with pretty much a monopoly (yes I know its not really and Creative will never even be accused of such), in a market (computer hardware/software) where competition is the biggest factor driving advancements.

Again i fail to see why it matters. It's not Creative's fault nobody else tried and they came up with EAX and got it into games and now it's a standard.

 

[BDawg]

I'm not the world's biggest Creative fan, but compared to modern day video cards which range from $200 - $600 (in a system with competition), a $100 - $300 modern day sound card doesn't seem that bad. Espescially when the performance difference and features between the $150 and $300 sound card is minimal at best.

 

[slpaulson]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Still...most of the games I play support EAX HD and no soundcard outside of a Creative brand can playback this

That is a sad fact...

You can thank Creative for that

Doesn't bother me... X-FI is perfectly fine for most people and gamers. If you need more you move up to a pro audio solution.

Its a shame so many consumers have a similar mindset to you. Just because its good enough for you doesn't mean you shouldn't want more for your money. Not only that but you're basically saying that you are happy with pretty much a monopoly (yes I know its not really and Creative will never even be accused of such), in a market (computer hardware/software) where competition is the biggest factor driving advancements.

Again i fail to see why it matters. It's not Creative's fault nobody else tried and they came up with EAX and got it into games and now it's a standard.

Aureal had A3d, I believe before EAX came out. Most people would say A3d was better as well.

 

[NanoStuff]

I myself would like something to knock Creative off it's high horse; maybe even a software solution. But one thing's for sure, if any sound card can do it, it's NOT that thing.

 

[Oyeve]

Quote from the website:

Q: Should I upgrade my current soundcard to the Razer Barracuda IAS?
A: Even if you are a casual gamer and you don?t need top notch gaming audio, you should ? the Razer Barracuda IAS will improve your gameplay and allow you to experience immediately a significant improvement over your current audio systems. If you?re not prepared to take the plunge yet, go to your nearest store location and ask to experience the Powered by Razer Fidelity? experience!


WTF? If you are a casual gamer then onboard audio or any <$30 card would suffice. What a joke.

 

[jameswhite1979]

You need to have a least 4 major players in any section of business else it is deemed to me a monopoly. This is what has happened with sound cards. We the customer, to do see the benefits of companies pushing the price down but more worrying in that they then 'manage' the release of their new technologies, they will wait till sales have hit figure X before allowing talk of a new product etc so if you want new technology to be released and the older stuff to be cheap do not support this.

That being send I have a Creative soundcard Live 5.1 soundcard in my PC but I do remember the days of gravies ultra sounds and Roland etc things moved much quicker then 🙂

 

[EBH]

Originally posted by: Operandi
On board HD-audio is the final nail in the coffin of consumer level sound cards.

ROFL at HD audio

44.1 khz 16 bit is considered HD audio now, i hear advertisements on the radio for it all the time HD radio they call it LOL

makes me laf that CD quality is considered HD audio now

even if its 96 khz and 24 bit is not HD audio, its DVD quality audio, HD audio is a BS term used to sell more crack

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: EBH

Originally posted by: Operandi
On board HD-audio is the final nail in the coffin of consumer level sound cards.

ROFL at HD audio

44.1 khz 16 bit is considered HD audio now, i hear advertisements on the radio for it all the time HD radio they call it LOL

makes me laf that CD quality is considered HD audio now

even if its 96 khz and 24 bit is not HD audio, its DVD quality audio, HD audio is a BS term used to sell more crack

DVD-Audio discs (as in the Hi-Res, Hi-End format that competes with SACD) play back 24-bit/96KHz for 5.1 Channels. This is not to be confused with the audio track on DVD-Video discs which is NOT HD Audio.

 

[Mem]

Doesn't bother me... X-FI is perfectly fine for most people and gamers. If you need more you move up to a pro audio solution.

I'm more then happy with my Audigy 4,I'm going to wait and see what happens to the sound market once Vista arrives, since it has serious repercussions hardware sound wise.

 

[Markbnj]

Originally posted by: acegazda
The monopoly of creative needs to be broken. Xfi isn't really cost effective, escpecially the higher end models. This just represents the beginning (we hope) of a crusade of new audio cards and chips that will make HD sound like $30 for a good card. We can only hope.

Yeah, well it's a pretty crappy monopoly, given their financial performance of late.

The fact is that they have a dominant position because not very many other companies want to get into the market. It's not a very lucrative one. Most people can see the bang for the buck when they put a better gfx card in. Not so for sound cards, and the gap between what you can buy and what you get on the board is narrowing.

 

[Varun]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Still...most of the games I play support EAX HD and no soundcard outside of a Creative brand can playback this

That is a sad fact...

You can thank Creative for that

Doesn't bother me... X-FI is perfectly fine for most people and gamers. If you need more you move up to a pro audio solution.

Its a shame so many consumers have a similar mindset to you. Just because its good enough for you doesn't mean you shouldn't want more for your money. Not only that but you're basically saying that you are happy with pretty much a monopoly (yes I know its not really and Creative will never even be accused of such), in a market (computer hardware/software) where competition is the biggest factor driving advancements.

Again i fail to see why it matters. It's not Creative's fault nobody else tried and they came up with EAX and got it into games and now it's a standard.

It is Creative's fault. Aureal had A3D which was far better than EAX, but Creative had the brand name. Aureal was going under so Creative bought them, and then killed A3D completely.

Also, EAX is not an open standard forcing people to only purchase Creative cards.

The new Creative sound cards seem pretty good but Creative built a lot of junk for a long time. I am glad for two things:

1)Another company is stepping into the Sound Card arena with a gaming card
2)Vista is going to eliminate EAX by the sounds of it making the playing field open to all.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Varun

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Still...most of the games I play support EAX HD and no soundcard outside of a Creative brand can playback this

That is a sad fact...

You can thank Creative for that

Doesn't bother me... X-FI is perfectly fine for most people and gamers. If you need more you move up to a pro audio solution.

Its a shame so many consumers have a similar mindset to you. Just because its good enough for you doesn't mean you shouldn't want more for your money. Not only that but you're basically saying that you are happy with pretty much a monopoly (yes I know its not really and Creative will never even be accused of such), in a market (computer hardware/software) where competition is the biggest factor driving advancements.

Again i fail to see why it matters. It's not Creative's fault nobody else tried and they came up with EAX and got it into games and now it's a standard.

It is Creative's fault. Aureal had A3D which was far better than EAX, but Creative had the brand name. Aureal was going under so Creative bought them, and then killed A3D completely.

Also, EAX is not an open standard forcing people to only purchase Creative cards.

The new Creative sound cards seem pretty good but Creative built a lot of junk for a long time. I am glad for two things:

1)Another company is stepping into the Sound Card arena with a gaming card
2)Vista is going to eliminate EAX by the sounds of it making the playing field open to all.

How Aureal went under is pretty damn interesting, wouldn't you say?

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: Varun
[That is a sad fact...

It is Creative's fault. Aureal had A3D which was far better than EAX, but Creative had the brand name. Aureal was going under so Creative bought them, and then killed A3D completely.

Also, EAX is not an open standard forcing people to only purchase Creative cards.

The new Creative sound cards seem pretty good but Creative built a lot of junk for a long time. I am glad for two things:

1)Another company is stepping into the Sound Card arena with a gaming card
2)Vista is going to eliminate EAX by the sounds of it making the playing field open to all.[/quote]

Creative was not the first sound card company. Many were around before CL. Adlib, Disney had an external sound thingy, CL just made better cards back then. Turtle beach made great cards but CL made better ones (subjective, I am by no means a CL fan-boy! In fact I am not too fond of my X-fi, the ZS2 was my fave) But we do need more competition in the sound card market.